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*Jerry Gordon
<http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_category.cfm/cat_id/139>*

*Thursday, 9 October 2014*

*The Controversy over whether ISIS is on our Borders *[image: Bookmark and
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Tuesday night on Greta Van Susteren’s *Fox News* program, *On The Record,
Rep. *Duncan Hunter California Congressman (R-52nd CD)  in San Diego County
 said that “At Least Ten ISIS Fighters Have Been Caught Coming Across The
Border In Texas”.  Duncan is a former Marine Major and member of the House
Armed Services Committee.  Susteren, while stunned by the Congressman
assertion, went on and asked him how he knew that. Note this transcrip
<http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/idwithlid.blogspot.com/2014/10/stunner-rep-duncan-hunter-r-ca-ten-isis.html?utm_source=The+Lid+List&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=e91785c80b-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_597b72c01c-e91785c80b-228004473&goal=0_597b72c01c-e91785c80b-228004473>t
of the exchange:

*Van Susteren*:  How do you know that?

*Hunter:*  Because I’ve asked the border patrol, Greta.

*Van Susteren:*  And the border patrol just let's ISIS members come across
the border?

*Hunter:*  No. They caught them at the border. Therefore, we know that ISIS
is coming across the border. If they catch five or ten of them, you know
that there are going to be dozens more that did not get caught by the
border patrol. That's how you know. That's where we are at risk here, is
from ISIS and radical Islamists coming across the border. Once again, they
don't have a navy, air force, nuclear weapons. The only way that Americans
are going to be harmed by radical Islam -- Chairman Dempsey said the same
thing. He said that's where the major threat is here, that's how these guy
guys are going to infiltrate through America and harm Americans.

Watch <http://youtu.be/8P_wzvHsAMU> the Greta van Susteren Fox News
interview with California Congressman Hunter Duncan:

Hunter's comments  brought denials from DHS  and  Secretary Jeh Johnson in
a Wolf Blitzer *CNN Situation Room* interview
<http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/politics/jeh-johnson-duncan-hunter-isis>
Wednesday night:

"Let's not unduly create fear and anxiety in the public by passing on
speculation and rumor," Johnson said.

Johnson said those claims aren't supported by "credible, specific
intelligence to that effect." He said public officials should "be
responsible in what we decide to share with the American public, so that
the public is informed."

His comments came after a Homeland Security spokeswoman called Hunter's
statement "categorically false."

"I look at the intelligence reports from overseas, from our southern
border, from our intelligence community virtually every day, numerous times
a day, to be on the lookout for something of that nature."

"So what I would say to the American public is, we're vigilant in looking
out for individuals of suspicion that may be crossing our border, and we
have no specific intelligence that ISIL is planning to come into the U.S.
through our southern border," he said, using another acronym for ISIS.

The *CNN* report noted this statement from Congressman Hunter’s spokesman:

A high level source informed the congressman -- it was also said that DHS
is actively discouraging any talk of IS on the border," Kasper said.

"The congressman was conveying what he knows -- and what he was told," he
said. "And as for DHS' statement, it makes sense that the left hand of DHS
doesn't know what the right hand is doing -- it's been that way for a long
time and we don't expect that to change. No surprise there."

Watch
<http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/10/09/tsr-sot-jeh-johnson-on-isis-threat.cnn.html>
the *CNN *Interview with DHS Secretary Johnson by Wolf Blitzer:

In the midst of the border crisis in mid-June 2014, involving the swarm of
unaccompanied alien minors from Central America, outgoing Texas Governor
Rick Perry commented in a *Washington Times* report
<http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/17/texas-gov-rick-perry-knocks-president-obama-immigr/#ixzz34wz60TcN>
:

There are a record number of illegal immigrants that are being apprehended
at the border that come from countries that are home to groups that pose a
threat to the United States.

These people are coming from states like Syria that have substantial
connections back to terrorist regimes and terrorist operations. It is a
huge problem and a great concern.

Hunter got support from Judicial Watch (JW <http://www.judicialwatch.org/>),
a group that has been investigating the lack of security on our Southern
Border, whether it the Fast and Furious fiasco of gun running to Mexican
drug cartels  and the murder of  Border Patrol agent, Brian Terry.   An
*NER* article
<http://www.newenglishreview.org/Jerry_Gordon/Insecure_Borders_and_Broken_Immigration_Laws:_A_Discussion_with_Chris_Farrell_and_Mark_Krikorian/>
based on a *Lisa Benson Show*  interview about border insecurity and
illegal immigration drew these comments from JW chief investigator Chris
Farrell:

The border is not secure at all. In fact arguably it's been diminished with
respect to security.

[…]

The only solution is that a very short order be given to the Chairman of
the JCS to secure the Southern border of the United States. That has been
done for decades in North/South Korea or any number of other places around
the world. We can effectively remilitarize the border. We can at least
secure it while routine trade goes on. The trucks and trains do what they
do. Commerce continues, but the border itself is an existential threat. The
Southern Command Commander said so not long ago that we cannot continue to
operate in the manner that we are. There is sufficient evidence of
terrorist activity in Mexico. Whether it is Hezbollah counterfeiting money
or whether it is Al Qaeda related training camps, there is this substantial
body of evidence that points to a violent threat.

In late August 2014, there was more from JW:

 It reported
<http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/08/feds-isis-on-us-border/> that
Islamic terrorist groups are operating in the Mexican border city of Ciudad
Juarez and planning to attack the United States with car bombs or other
vehicle borne improvised explosive devices (VBIED). High-level federal law
enforcement, intelligence and other sources confirmed to JW that a warning
bulletin for an imminent terrorist attack on the border has been
issued. Agents across a number of Homeland Security, Justice and Defense
agencies have all been placed on alert and instructed to aggressively work
all possible leads and sources concerning this imminent terrorist threat.

Earlier this week an interview <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl3SH9RUzjo>
with FBI Director James Comey confirmed that they knew of at least a dozen
US ISIS fighters in both Syria and Iraq and estimates of over 100 who have
traveled to join the Salafist Jihadist group with a self-declared Caliphate
that has grown to cover an area equivalent to the size of Great Britain.
 In a *Louisville Courier Journal* interview
<http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/0001/01/01/fbi-director-expect-direct-isis-attack/16994005/>,
today, Comey told reporters:

That ISIS – the Islamic State group – hasn’t demonstrated that it has the
“capacity or resources” to strike targets in the United States.

But he said at a news conference at the FBI’s field office in eastern
Jefferson County that it could recruit a terrorist “radicalized in his
basement” to carry out an attack on ISIS’s behalf.

 Notwithstanding  FBI Director Comey’s comment we recently had the beheadin
<http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/56688>g by an
extremist Muslim jailhouse convert in Oklahoma.  On Monday, October 6th,
there was the arraignment
<http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/10/06/teen-terror-suspect-arrested-at-ohare/>
on terror charges by the FBI of a suburban Chicago area teenage Muslim
extremist who was  arrested  last Saturday about to board a flight at
O’Hare Airport to ultimately join ISIS.

JW issued a statement today effectively rebutting DHS chief Johnson denial
of Congressman Hunter’s allegations, JW Confirms: 4 ISIS Terrorists
Arrested in Texas in Last 36 Hours
<http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/10/jw-confirms-4-isis-terrorists-arrested-texas-last-36-hours/>.
The JW report noted:

Islamic terrorists have entered the United States through the Mexican
border and Homeland Security sources tell Judicial Watch that four have
been apprehended in the last 36 hours by federal authorities and the Texas
Department of Public Safety in McAllen and Pharr.

JW confirmed this after California Congressman Duncan Hunter…
disclosed on national
television
<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/08/congressman-at-least-10-isis-fighters-caught-trying-to-cross-into-us/?%20>
that at least ten Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) fighters
have been caught crossing the Mexican border in Texas. The veteran lawmaker
got the astounding intelligence straight from U.S. Customs and Border
Protection (CBP), the Homeland Security agency responsible for guarding the
1,933-mile southern border.

We asked “Beowulf” publisher of *The Grendel Report*
<http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/grendelreport.blogspot.com/>
for his views on this* ISIS border *controversy.  He said:

Johnson, of course will stick to the Administrations talking points of
denying any threat from anywhere.

I see no reason for either Hunter or Judicial Watch to lie.  That has not
been their history.  I imagine their sources are from the Border Patrol,
which has no use for either DHS or Obama.






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