Travis,
Was MLB or the NFL or NBA or the entertainment industry just balied
out using $700 billion PLUS of the tax-payers money?
On Oct 27, 10:07 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> but when you have athletes and actors making millions for doing very little
> that is worthwhile, how can you cap business execs who usually do something.
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> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Start with term limits (12 max in congress) and strict campaign finance
> > finance reform ( i have that already writtten out) for starters. and a cap
> > on what top management can make also.
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> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:12 PM, WarpTen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >> It was all very colorful and flowery in expression but to imply
> >> socialism to the candidacy is a stretch of the imagination and loaded
> >> with innuendo. Obviously the majority of initial candidacy choices
> >> were totally abandoned and now we have a paltry choice, typical of any
> >> election year, Republican or Democrat. All the other candidates fell
> >> to the wayside (let's for arguments sake disregard Nader and the
> >> other) and so we have to choose from that which has slipped through
> >> the cracks. One is old and lame with a dipsy airhead running mate and
> >> the other is a cocky arrogant uppity with a running mate who runs the
> >> mouth ahead of the brain. All in all the bottom line is rebuilding the
> >> nation without compassion for the wealthy who have had a free ride for
> >> years. If we do not invest in the advancement of the general populous
> >> we will eventually be inundated with poverty run amok. Tax breaks for
> >> the wealthy and corporate entities has not accomplished anything and
> >> has actually delivered us to this precipice of which you refer. We
> >> need to change the old established political guarde in order to see a
> >> meaningful change in American image on a global scale. We cannot
> >> measure our condition on the basis of founding principles but must
> >> address our quandary on contemporary standards. Forty acres and a mule
> >> is no longer a viable solution to economic distress. With corporate
> >> vampires depleting the core values of our political foundation, it is
> >> obvious that we must rebuild from the ground floor up. They just
> >> burdened the tax payers with a 800 billion dollar bailout for the
> >> wealthy; has it had much of a positive impact? Foreclosures are
> >> increasing exponentially, poverty is running rampant, the Bush's,
> >> Halliburton, CEO's and others have amassed magnanimous wealth. I don't
> >> make $250K a year so I'm looking for change. The Obama's live in a
> >> 1.65 million dollar home and the McCains own 7 houses, I'm struggling
> >> to hold on to one while these bastards want the people to pay for
> >> corporate screw ups with fat personal financial portfolios. It's funny
> >> how they all know how to make the best of their own personal finances
> >> but when it comes to American economics they are supposedly clueless
> >> as to what the problems are. Do you get the feeling that we are all
> >> being duped? Year after year? Every single year?
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> >> On Oct 27, 8:08 pm, Jim Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > As America squats upon the precipice of electing a dyed in the wool
> >> > socialist, hell bent on destroying the country that made him into the
> >> > wealthy elitist he truly is, I can't help feeling that we are quite
> >> > simply reaping what we have sown. For we have taken the gift that is
> >> > America, "paid for in blood by patriots" and adulterated it beyond all
> >> > recognition. We have inherited the dreams and aspirations of those
> >> > founders only to squander them as irrelevant or antiquated.
> >> > Apparently we have a majority of citizens ready to willingly embrace
> >> > socialism when it was capitalism combined with the entrepreneurial
> >> > spirit of ordinary people most responsible for American
> >> > exceptionalism. In just over two hundred years we, as a country, have
> >> > bested the rest of the world in every form of human endeavor. We have
> >> > the highest standard of living known to man. For all of the hyperbolic
> >> > hyperbole about poverty across these fruited plains even the supposed
> >> > impoverished are fat and happy mired in their muck. We have six
> >> > billion people weighing down this orb and more than half of them do so
> >> > without such luxuries as electricity and running water. And yet we
> >> > complain and demand change.
> >> > What has spoiled this country is the separation from those founders,
> >> > from their ideals combined with our tepid faith in our constitution
> >> > and God. John Adam's said, "We have no government armed with power
> >> > capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and
> >> > religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the
> >> > strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our
> >> > Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is
> >> > wholly inadequate for any other".
> >> > Until 1948 the bible and God was an integral component in the rearing
> >> > and education of America's youth. 1949 stands out as the first year of
> >> > a decline in scholastic achievement.
> >> > Speak to anyone of public school matriculation and, on balance, the
> >> > most favored response to religion in the classroom is the oft repeated
> >> > separation of church and state. Yet, no such language exists in our
> >> > founding documents and those who born this country couldn't imagine a
> >> > populace so ill informed as to the bible and the word of God.
> >> > Still, highlighted in this misconception is the apt labeling of an ill
> >> > informed electorate as to the content and context of our founding
> >> > documents; the cornerstone of this representative republic.
> >> > It is saddening to realize that those men, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin,
> >> > et al, pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to
> >> > foster a country now inhabited by spoiled children willing to follow
> >> > the latest pied piper into an ideology that has miserably failed every
> >> > time it's been tried.
> >> > The tenets of socialism are directly proportional to our national
> >> > debt, our porous borders, our entitlement mentality, the current
> >> > financial crisis, our bloated bureaucracy, abortion, gay marriage and
> >> > the rapid moral and social decay infecting the body whole that is
> >> > America. Now, it seems, the great unwashed residing in this divinely
> >> > inspired republic is desirous to not only dip their respective feet in
> >> > the communal socialist pool but jump head first off the high dive and
> >> > become totally immersed. This only confirms a suspicion I've held for
> >> > some time; Mr. Adam's was right. Without religion and morality our
> >> > constitution survives not. However, in another sense, perverted as it
> >> > is, it is only common sense. After all, checkers sells more than
> >> > chess. And I can't recall the last time I gazed upon the New York
> >> > Times best seller list and recognized the King James edition of our
> >> > holy bible gracing that population.
> >> > Conservative Springfield 27 OCT 08
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