Seems that there were more "Yankee" states than "Southern" states in the
original!!! Somehow when I think of the American revolution, I think of it
starting on MA and being fought for the most part in NJ as well as PA and
NY!!!

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:05 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> At 07:52 AM 11/10/2014, you wrote:
>
> The last 16 slaves in New Jersey were freed in 1865.
> yep ... hypocrisy at it's finest!!!
>
> On Friday, November 7, 2014 12:14:54 PM UTC-6, brine wrote:
>  I was born in NJ, moved to NY when I went to college, stayed there for
> 18 years and have been back in Jersey for 20 years ... I am all Yankee!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> *"The ethnic division between Yankees and other Americans goes back to
> earliest colonial times. Up until the War for Southern Independence,
> Southerners were considered to be the American mainstream and Yankees were
> considered to be the "peculiar" people. Because of a long campaign of
> cultural imperialism and the successful military imperialism engineered by
> the Yankees, the South, since the war, has been considered the problem, the
> deviation from the true American norm. Historians have made an industry of
> explaining why the South is different (and evil, for that which defies the
> "American" as now established, is by definition evil). Is the South
> different because of slavery? white supremacy? the climate? pellagra?
> illiteracy? poverty? guilt? defeat? Celtic wildness rather than Anglo-Saxon
> sobriety? " *April 24, 2003
>
> *The Yankee Problem in America *by Clyde Wilson
>
> Since the 2000 presidential election, much attention has been paid to a
> map showing the sharp geographical division between the two candidates'
> support. Gore prevailed in the power- and plunder-seeking Deep North
> (Northeast, Upper Midwest, Pacific Coast) and Bush in the regions inhabited
> by productive and decent Americans. There is nothing new about this.
> Historically speaking, it is just one more manifestation of the Yankee
> problem.
>
> As indicated by these books (listed at the end), scholars are at last
> starting to pay some attention to one of the most important and most
> neglected subjects in United States history ­ the Yankee problem.
>
> By Yankee I do not mean everybody from north of the Potomac and Ohio. Lots
> of them have always been good folks. The firemen who died in the World
> Trade Center on September 11 were Americans. The politicians and TV
> personalities who stood around telling us what we are to think about it are
> Yankees. I am using the term historically to designate that peculiar ethnic
> group descended from New Englanders, who can be easily recognized by their
> arrogance, hypocrisy, greed, lack of congeniality, and penchant for
> ordering other people around. Puritans long ago abandoned anything that
> might be good in their religion but have never given up the notion that
> they are the chosen saints whose mission is to make America, and the world,
> into the perfection of their own image.
>
> Hillary Rodham Clinton, raised a Northern Methodist in Chicago, is a
> museum-quality specimen of the Yankee ­ self-righteous, ruthless, and
> self-aggrandizing. Northern Methodism and Chicago were both, in their
> formative periods, hotbeds of abolitionist, high tariff Black
> Republicanism. The Yankee temperament, it should be noted, makes a neat fit
> with the Stalinism that was brought into the Deep North by later immigrants.
>
> The ethnic division between Yankees and other Americans goes back to
> earliest colonial times. Up until the War for Southern Independence,
> Southerners were considered to be the American mainstream and Yankees were
> considered to be the "peculiar" people. Because of a long campaign of
> cultural imperialism and the successful military imperialism engineered by
> the Yankees, the South, since the war, has been considered the problem, the
> deviation from the true American norm. Historians have made an industry of
> explaining why the South is different (and evil, for that which defies the
> "American" as now established, is by definition evil). Is the South
> different because of slavery? white supremacy? the climate? pellagra?
> illiteracy? poverty? guilt? defeat? Celtic wildness rather than Anglo-Saxon
> sobriety?
>
> Unnoticed in all this literature was a hidden assumption: the North is
> normal, the standard of all things American and good. Anything that does
> not conform is a problem to be explained and a condition to be annihilated.
> What about that hidden assumption? Should not historians be interested in
> understanding how the North got to be the way it is? Indeed, is there any
> question in American history more important?
>
> According to standard accounts of American history (*i.e.*, Northern
> mythology), New Englanders fought the Revolution and founded glorious
> American freedom as had been planned by the "Puritan Fathers." Southerners,
> who had always been of questionable character, because of their fanatic
> devotion to slavery, wickedly rebelled against government of, by, and for
> the people, were put down by the armies of the Lord, and should be ever
> grateful for not having been exterminated. (This is clearly the view of the
> anonymous Union Leaguer from Portland, Maine, who recently sent me a
> chamber pot labeled "Robert E. Lee's soup tureen.") And out of their
> benevolence and devotion to the ideal of freedom, the North struck the
> chains from the suffering black people. (They should be forever grateful,
> also. Take a look at the Boston statue with happy blacks adoring the feet
> of Col. Robert Gould Shaw.)
>
> Aside from the fact that every generalization in this standard history is
> false, an obvious defect in it is that, for anyone familiar with American
> history before the War, it is clear that "Southern" was American and
> Yankees were the problem. America was Washington and Jefferson, the
> Louisiana Purchase and the Battle of New Orleans, John Randolph and Henry
> Clay, Daniel Morgan, Daniel Boone, and Francis Marion. Southerners had made
> the Constitution, saved it under Jefferson from the Yankees, fought the
> wars, acquired the territory, and settled the West, including the
> Northwest. To most Americans, in Pennsylvania and Indiana as well as
> Virginia and Georgia, this was a basic view up until about 1850. New
> England had been a threat, a nuisance, and a negative force in the progress
> of America. Northerners, including some patriotic New Englanders, believed
> this as much as Southerners.
>
> When Washington Irving, whose family were among the early Anglo-Dutch
> settlers of New York, wrote the story about the "Headless Horseman," he was
> ridiculing Yankees. The prig Ichabod Crane had come over from Connecticut
> and made himself a nuisance. So a young man (New York young men were then
> normal young men rather than Yankees) played a trick on him and sent him
> fleeing back to Yankeeland where he belonged. James Fenimore Cooper, of
> another early New York family, felt the same way about New Englanders who
> appear unfavorably in his writings. Yet another New York writer, James
> Kirke Paulding (among many others) wrote a book defending the South and
> attacking abolitionists. It is not unreasonable to conclude that in *Moby
> Dick* <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0679600108/lewrockwell/>,
> the New York Democrat Herman Melville modeled the fanatical Captain Ahab on
> the Yankee abolitionist. In fact, the term "Yankee" appears to originate in
> some mingling of Dutch and Indian words, to designate New Englanders.
> Obviously, both the Dutch New Yorkers and the Native Americans recognized
> them as "different."
>
> Young Abe Lincoln amused his neighbors in southern Indiana and Illinois,
> nearly all of whom, like his own family, had come from the South, with
> "Yankee jokes," stories making fun of dishonest peddlers from New England.
> They were the most popular stories in his repertoire, except for the dirty
> ones.
>
> Right into the war, Northerners opposed to the conquest of the South
> blamed the conflict on fanatical New Englanders out for power and plunder,
> not on the good Americans in the South who had been provoked beyond bearing.
>
> Many people, and not only in the South, thought that Southerners,
> according to their nature, had been loyal to the Union, had served it,
> fought and sacrificed for it as long as they could. New Englanders,
> according to their nature, had always been grasping for themselves while
> proclaiming their righteousness and superiority.
>
> The Yankees succeeded so well, by the long cultural war described in these
> volumes, and by the North's military victory, that there was no longer a
> Yankee problem. Now the Yankee was America and the South was the problem.
> America, the Yankee version, was all that was normal and right and good.
> Southerners understood who had won the war (not Northerners, though they
> had shed a lot of blood, but the accursed Yankees.) With some justification
> they began to regard all Northerners as Yankees, even the hordes of
> foreigners who had been hired to wear the blue.
>
> Here is something closer to a real history of the United States: American
> freedom was not a legacy of the "Puritan Fathers," but of Virginians who
> proclaimed and spread constitutional rights. New England gets some credit
> for beginning the War of Independence. After the first few years, however,
> Yankees played little part. The war was fought and won in the South.
> Besides, New Englanders had good reasons for independence ­ they did not
> fit into the British Empire economically, since one of their main
> industries was smuggling, and the influential Puritan clergy hated the
> Church of England. Southerners, in fighting for independence, were actually
> going against their economic interests for the sake of principle.
>
> Once Southerners had gone into the Union (which a number of wise statesmen
> like Patrick Henry and George Mason warned them against), the Yankees began
> to show how they regarded the new federal government: as an instrument to
> be used for their own purposes. Southerners long continued to view the
> Union as a vehicle for mutual cooperation, as they often naively still do.
>
> In the first Congress, Yankees demanded that the federal government
> continue the British subsidies to their fishing fleets. While Virginia and
> the other Southern states gave up their vast western lands for future new
> states, New Englanders demanded a special preserve for themselves (the
> "Western Reserve" in Ohio).
>
> Under John Adams, the New England quest for power grew into a frenzy. They
> passed the Sedition Law to punish anti-government words (as long as they
> controlled the government) in clear violation of the Constitution. During
> the election of 1800 the preachers in New England told their congregations
> that Thomas Jefferson was a French Jacobin who would set up the guillotine
> in their town squares and declare women common property. (What else could
> be expected from a dissolute slaveholder?) In fact, Jefferson's well-known
> distaste for mixing of church and state rested largely on his dislike of
> the power of the New England self-appointed saints.
>
> When Jeffersonians took power, the New Englanders fought them with all
> their diminishing strength. Their poet William Cullen Bryant regarded the
> Louisiana Purchase as nothing but a large swamp for Jefferson to pursue his
> atheistic penchant for science.
>
> The War of 1812, the Second War of Independence, was decisive for the
> seemingly permanent discrediting of New England. The Yankee ruling class
> opposed the war even though it was begun by Southerners on behalf of
> oppressed American seamen, most of whom were New Englanders. Yankees did
> not care about their oppressed poorer citizens because they were making big
> bucks smuggling into wartime Europe. One New England congressman attacked
> young patriot John C. Calhoun as a backwoodsman who had never seen a sail
> and who was unqualified to deal with foreign policy.
>
> During the war Yankees traded with the enemy and talked openly of
> secession. (Southerners *never* spoke of secession in time of war.)
> Massachusetts refused to have its militia called into constitutional
> federal service even after invasion, and then, notoriously for years after,
> demanded that the federal government pay its militia expenses.
>
> Historians have endlessly repeated that the "Era of Good Feelings" under
> President Monroe refers to the absence of party strife. Actually, the term
> was first used to describe the state of affairs in which New England
> traitorousness had declined to the point that a Virginia president could
> visit Boston without being mobbed.
>
> Yankee political arrogance was soulmate to Yankee cultural arrogance.
> Throughout the antebellum period, New England literature was characterized
> and promoted as *the* American literature, and non-Yankee writers, in
> most cases much more talented and original, were ignored or slandered.
> Edgar Allan Poe had great fun ridiculing the literary pretensions of New
> Englanders, but they largely succeeded in dominating the idea of American
> literature into the 20th century. Generations of Americans have been cured
> of reading forever by being forced to digest dreary third-string New
> England poets as "American literature."
>
> In 1789, a Connecticut Puritan preacher named Jedidiah Morse published the
> first book of *American Geography*
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0405026803/lewrockwell/>. The
> trouble was, it was not an American geography but a Yankee geography. Most
> of the book was taken up with describing the virtues of New England. Once
> you got west of the Hudson River, as Morse saw it and conveyed to the
> world's reading public, the U.S. was a benighted land inhabited by lazy,
> dirty Scotch-Irish and Germans in the Middle States and lazy, morally
> depraved Southerners, corrupted and enervated by slavery. New Englanders
> were pure Anglo-Saxons with all virtues. The rest of the Americans were
> questionable people of lower or mongrel ancestry. The theme of New
> Englanders as pure Anglo-Saxons continued right down through the 20th
> century. The alleged saints of American equality operated on a theory of
> their racial superiority. While Catholics and Jews were, in the South,
> accepted and loyal Southerners, Yankees burned down convents and banished
> Jews from the Union Army lines.
>
> A few years after Morse, Noah Webster, also from Connecticut, published
> his *American Dictionary* and American spelling book. The trouble was, it
> was not an American dictionary but a New England dictionary. As Webster
> declared in his preface, New Englanders spoke and spelled the purest and
> best form of English of any people in the *world*. Southerners and others
> ignored Webster and spelled and pronounced real English until after the War
> of Southern Independence.
>
> As the books show, Yankees after the War of 1812 were acutely aware of
> their minority status. And here is the important point: they launched a
> deliberate campaign to take over control of the idea of "America."
>
> The campaign was multi-faceted. Politically, they gained profits from the
> protective tariff and federal expenditures, both of which drained money
> from the South for the benefit of the North, and New England especially.
> Seeking economic advantage from legislation is nothing new in human
> history. But the New England greed was marked by its peculiar assumptions
> of moral superiority. New Englanders, who were selling their products in a
> market from which competition had been excluded by the tariff, proclaimed
> that the low price of cotton was due to the fact that Southerners lacked
> the drive and enterprise of virtuous Yankees! (When the South was actually
> the *productive *part of the U.S. economy.)
>
> This transfer of wealth built the strength of the North. It was even more
> profitable than the slave trade (which New England shippers carried on from
> Africa to Brazil and Cuba right up to the War Between the States) and the
> Chinese opium trade (which they were also to break into).
>
> Another phase of the Yankee campaign for what they considered their
> rightful dominance was the capture of the history of the American
> Revolution. At a time when decent Americans celebrated the Revolution as
> the common glory of all, New Englanders were publishing a literature
> claiming the whole credit for themselves. A scribbler from Maine named
> Lorenzo Sabine, for one example among many, published a book in which he
> claimed that the Revolution in the South had been won by New England
> soldiers because Southerners were traitorous and enervated by slavery. As
> William Gilmore Simms pointed out, it was all lies. When Daniel Webster was
> received hospitably in Charleston, he made a speech in which he
> commemorated the graves of the many heroic Revolutionary soldiers from New
> England which were to be found in the South. The trouble was, those graves
> did not exist. Many Southern volunteers had fought in the North, but no
> soldier from north of Pennsylvania (except a few generals) had ever fought
> in the South!
>
> George Washington was a bit of a problem here, so the honor-driven,
> foxhunting Virginia gentleman was transformed by phony folklore into a prim
> New Englander in character, a false image that has misled and repulsed
> countless Americans since.
>
> It should be clear, this was not merely misplaced pride. It was a
> deliberate, systematic effort by the Massachusetts elite to take control of
> American symbols and disparage all competing claims. Do not be put off by
> Professor Sheidley's use of "Conservative Leaders" in his title. He means
> merely the Yankee ruling elite who were never conservatives then or now.
> Conservatives do not work for "the transformation of America."
>
> Another successful effort was a New England claim on the West. When New
> Englanders referred to "the West" in antebellum times, they meant the parts
> of Ohio and adjacent states settled by New Englanders. The rest of the
> great American West did not count. In fact, the great drama of danger and
> adventure and achievement that was the American West, from the Appalachians
> to the Pacific, was predominantly the work of Southerners and not of New
> Englanders at all. In the Midwest, the New Englanders came after
> Southerners had tamed the wilderness, and they looked down upon the early
> settlers. But in Western movies we still have the inevitable family from
> Boston moving west by covered wagon. Such a thing never existed! The people
> moving west in covered wagons were from the upper South and were despised
> by Boston.
>
> So our West is reduced, in literature, to *The Oregon Trail*, a silly
> book written by a Boston tourist, and the phony cavortings of the Eastern
> sissy Teddy Roosevelt in the cattle country opened by Southerners. And the
> great American outdoors is now symbolized by Henry David Thoreau and a
> little frog pond at Walden, in sight of the Boston smokestacks. The
> Pennsylvanian Owen Wister knew better when he entitled his Wyoming novel, *The
> Virginian*
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1570984158/lewrockwell/>.
>
> To fully understand what the Yankee is today ­ builder of the all-powerful
> "multicultural" therapeutic state (with himself giving the orders and
> collecting the rewards) which is the perfection of history and which is to
> be exported to all peoples, by guided missiles on women and children if
> necessary ­ we need a bit more real history.
>
> That history is philosophical, or rather theological, and demographic. New
> Englanders lived in a barren land. Some of their surplus sons went to sea.
> Many others moved west when it was safe to do so. By 1830, half the people
> in the state of New York were New England-born. By 1850, New Englanders had
> tipped the political balance in the Midwest, with the help of German
> revolutionaries and authoritarians who had flooded in after the 1848
> revolutions.
>
> The leading editors in New York City, Horace Greeley and William Cullen
> Bryant, and the big money men, were New England-born. Thaddeus Stevens, the
> Pennsylvania steel tycoon and Radical Republican, was from Vermont. (Thanks
> to the tariff, he made $6,000 extra profit on every mile of railroad rails
> he sold.)
>
> The North had been Yankeeized, for the most part quietly, by control of
> churches, schools, and other cultural institutions, and by whipping up a
> frenzy of paranoia about the alleged plot of the South to *spread slavery
> to the North*, which was as imaginary as Jefferson's guillotine.
>
> The people that Cooper and Irving had despised as interlopers now
> controlled New York! The Yankees could now carry a majority in the North
> and in 1860 elect the first sectional president in U.S. history ­ a threat
> to the South to knuckle under or else. In time, even the despised Irish
> Catholics began to think like Yankees.
>
> We must also take note of the intellectual revolution amongst the Yankees
> which created the modern version of self-righteous authoritarian
> "Liberalism" so well exemplified by Mrs. Clinton. In the 1830s, Ralph Waldo
> Emerson went to Germany to study. There he learned from philosophers that
> the world was advancing by dialectical process to an ever-higher state. He
> returned to Boston, and after marrying the dying daughter of a banker,
> resigned from the clergy, declared the sacraments to be a remnant of
> barbarism, and proclaimed The American as the "New Man" who was leaving
> behind the garbage of the past and blazing the way into the future state of
> perfection for humanity. Emerson has ever since in many quarters been
> regarded as *the* American philosopher, the true interpreter of the
> meaning of America.
>
> From the point of view of Christianity, this "American" doctrine is
> heresy. From the point of view of history it is nonsense. But it is
> powerful enough for Ronald Reagan, who should have known better, to
> proclaim America as the shining City upon a Hill that was to redeem
> mankind. And powerful enough that the United States has long pursued a
> bipartisan foreign policy, one of the guiding assumptions of which is that
> America is the model of perfection to which all the world should want to
> conform.
>
> There is no reason for readers of *Southern Partisan* to rush out and buy
> these books, which are expensive and dense academic treatises. If you are
> really interested, get your library to acquire them. They are
> well-documented studies, responsibly restrained in their drawing of larger
> conclusions. But they indicate what is hopefully a trend of exploration of
> the neglected field of Yankee history.
>
> The highflying Yankee rhetoric of Emerson and Hillary Rodham Clinton has a
> nether side, which has its historical origins in the "Burnt Over District."
> The "Burnt Over District" was well known to antebellum Americans.
> Emersonian notions bore strange fruit in the central regions of New York
> State settled by the overflow of poorer Yankees from New England. It was
> "Burnt Over" because it (along with a similar area in northern Ohio) was
> swept over time and again by post-millennial revivalism. Here preachers
> like Charles G. Finney began to confuse Emerson's future state of
> perfection with Christianity, and God's plan for humanity with American
> chosenness.
>
> If this were true, then anything that stood in the way of American
> perfection must be eradicated. The threatening evil at various times was
> liquor, tobacco, the Catholic Church, the Masonic order, meat-eating,
> marriage. Within the small area of the Burnt Over District and within the
> space of a few decades was generated what historians have misnamed the
> "Jacksonian reform movement:" Joseph Smith received the *Book of Mormon*
> from the Angel Moroni; William Miller began the Seventh Day Adventists by
> predicting, inaccurately, the end of the world; the free love colony of
> John Humphrey Noyes flourished at Oneida; the first feminist convention was
> held at Seneca Falls; and John Brown, who was born in Connecticut,
> collected accomplices and financial backers for his mass murder expeditions.
>
> It was in this milieu that abolitionism, as opposed to the antislavery
> sentiment shared by many Americans, including Southerners, had its origins.
> Abolitionism, despite what has been said later, was *not* based on
> sympathy for the black people nor on an ideal of natural rights. It was
> based on the hysterical conviction that Southern slaveholders were evil
> sinners who stood in the way of fulfillment of America's divine mission to
> establish Heaven on Earth. It was not the Union that our Southern
> forefathers seceded from, but the deadly combination of Yankee greed and
> righteousness.
>
> Most abolitionists had little knowledge of or interest in black people or
> knowledge of life in the South. Slavery promoted *sin* and thus must end.
> No thought was given to what would happen to the African-Americans. In
> fact, many abolitionists expected that evil Southern whites and blacks
> would disappear and the land be repopulated by virtuous Yankees.
>
> The darker side of the Yankee mind has had its expression in American
> history as well as the side of high ideals. Timothy McVeigh from New York
> and the Unabomber from Harvard are, like John Brown, examples of this side
> of the Yankee problem. (Even though distinguished Yankee intellectuals have
> declared that their violence was a product of the evil "Southern gun
> culture.")
>
> General Richard Taylor, in one of the best Confederate memoirs, *Destruction
> and Reconstruction*
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/187994121X/lewrockwell/>,
> related what happened as he surrendered the last Confederate troops east of
> the Mississippi in 1865. A German, wearing the uniform of a Yankee general
> and speaking in heavily accented English, lectured him that now that the
> war was over, Southerners would be taught "the true American principles."
> Taylor replied, sardonically, that he regretted that his grandfather, an
> officer in the Revolution, and his father, President of the United States,
> had not passed on to him true American principles. Yankeeism was triumphant.
>
> Since the Confederate surrender, the Yankee has always been a strong and
> often dominant force in American society, though occasionally tempered by
> Southerners and other representatives of Western civilization in America.
> In the 1960s the Yankee had one of his periodic eruptions of mania such as
> he had in the 1850s. Since then, he has managed to destroy a good part of
> the liberty and morals of the American peoples. It remains to be seen
> whether his conquest is permanent or whether in the future we may be, at
> least to some degree, emancipated from it.
>
>    - Sheidley, Harlow W. *Sectional Nationalism: Massachusetts
>    Conservatives and the Transformation of America, 1815­1834*
>    <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1555533701/lewrockwell/>.
>    Boston: Northeastern University Press, 1998.
>    - Grant, Susan-Mary. *North Over South: Northern Nationalism and
>    American Identity in the Antebellum Era*
>    <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0700610251/lewrockwell/>.
>    Lawrence: University Press of Kansas, 2000.
>    - Bensel, Richard F. *Yankee Leviathan: The Origins of Central State
>    Authority in America*
>    <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521398177/lewrockwell/>.
>    New York: Cambridge University Press, 1990.
>    - Tuveson, Ernest L. *Redeemer Nation: The Idea of America's
>    Millennial Role*
>    <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0226819213/lewrockwell/>.
>    Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1968.
>    - Norton, Anne. *Alternative Americas: A Reading of Antebellum
>    Political Culture*
>    <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0226595102/lewrockwell/>.
>    Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1986.
>
>
>
>  http://archive.lewrockwell.com/wilson/wilson12.html
>
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