Ditto.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:42 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > They're not "Abrahamics" > --- > ignorance noted. > > The largest Abrahamic religions in chronological order of founding are > Judaism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism>, Christianity > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity>, and Islam > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions > > All the major Abrahamic religions claim a direct lineage to Abraham > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham>: > > - Abraham is recorded in the Torah <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah> > as the ancestor of the Israelites > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites> through his son Isaac > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac>, born to Sarah > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah> through a promise made in Genesis > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Genesis>.[Gen. 17:16] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen.+17%3A16&version=ESV>[ > 11] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions#cite_note-11> > - The sacred text of Christianity is the Christian Bible > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Bible>, the first part of > which, the Old Testament <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Testament>, > is derived from the Jewish Bible <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanakh>, > leading to similar ancestry claims as above, though most Christians are > gentiles <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentiles> who consider > themselves as grafted into the family tree under the New Covenant > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Covenant>, see significance of > Abraham for Christians > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions#For_Christians> for > details. > - It is the Islamic tradition that Muhammad, as an Arab > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab>, is descended from Abraham's son > Ishmael <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael>. Jewish tradition also > equates the descendants of Ishmael, Ishmaelites > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelites>, with Arabs, as the > descendants of Isaac <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac> by Jacob > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob>, who was also later known as > Israel, are the Israelites.[12] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions#cite_note-12> > > > > On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:10:49 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> Why are you afraid to call them what they are Plain Ol'? They're not >> "Abrahamics"; they're Muslims. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:07 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> the abrahamics are a violent lot. >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:00:03 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *12 killed at French satire newspaper that ran Muhammad cartoons >>>> <http://nypost.com/2015/01/07/police-say-shots-fired-at-french-satirical-paper/>* >>>> >>>> January 7, 2015 | 6:21am >>>> >>>> By Associated Press >>>> >>>> *12 killed at French satire newspaper that ran Muhammad cartoons* >>>> >>>> Posted: January 7, 2015 >>>> >>>> [image: FRANCE-CRIME-MEDIA-SHOOTING] >>>> >>>> Firefighters carry an injured man on a stretcher in front of the >>>> Charlie Hebdo offices after armed gunmen stormed the offices leaving at >>>> least one dead. >>>> >>>> Getty Images >>>> >>>> [image: FRANCE-CRIME-MEDIA-SHOOTING] >>>> >>>> Getty Images >>>> >>>> [image: French President Francois Hollande arrives after a shooting at >>>> the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo, a satirical newspaper] >>>> >>>> French President Francois Hollande arrives at the offices of Charlie >>>> Hebdo. >>>> >>>> Reuters >>>> >>>> [image: FRANCE-CRIME-MEDIA-SHOOTING] >>>> >>>> France’s interior minister Bernard Cazeneuve ,center left, and Paris’ >>>> Mayor Anne Hidalgo, center right, arrive at the satirical newspaper >>>> offices. >>>> >>>> Getty Images >>>> >>>> [image: FRANCE-CRIME-MEDIA-SHOOTING] >>>> >>>> Getty Images >>>> >>>> [image: FRANCE-CRIME-MEDIA-SHOOTING] >>>> >>>> Getty Images >>>> >>>> [image: FRANCE-CRIME-MEDIA-SHOOTING] >>>> >>>> Getty Images >>>> >>>> [image: FRANCE-CRIME-MEDIA-SHOOTING] >>>> >>>> Getty Images >>>> >>>> [image: FRANCE-CRIME-MEDIA-SHOOTING] >>>> >>>> Getty Images >>>> >>>> [image: FRANCE-CRIME-MEDIA-SHOOTING] >>>> >>>> Getty Images >>>> >>>> Back to the Start >>>> >>>> *Share this:* >>>> >>>> PARIS — Masked gunmen stormed the Paris offices of a satirical >>>> newspaper Wednesday, killing 12 people before escaping, in France’s >>>> deadliest terror attack in at least two decades. >>>> >>>> Modal Trigger >>>> <https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/536531491.jpg>[image: >>>> https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/536531491.jpg?w=250&h=378] >>>> >>>> Armed gunmen face off with police officers after the attack at the >>>> Charlie Hebdo offices.Photo: Getty Images >>>> >>>> French President Francois Hollande said the attack on the Charlie Hebdo >>>> weekly, which has frequently drawn condemnation from Muslims, is “a >>>> terrorist attack, without a doubt,” and said several other attacks have >>>> been thwarted in France “in recent weeks.” >>>> >>>> France raised its alert to the highest level, and reinforced security >>>> at houses of worship, stores, media offices and transportation. Top >>>> government officials were holding an emergency meeting. >>>> >>>> Paris prosecutor’s spokeswoman Agnes Thibault-Lecuivre confirmed 12 >>>> people were killed. >>>> >>>> Luc Poignant, an official of the SBP police union, said the attackers >>>> escaped in two vehicles. A witness, Benoit Bringer, told the iTele network >>>> he saw multiple masked men armed with automatic weapons at the newspaper’s >>>> office in central Paris. >>>> >>>> The extremist Islamic State group has threatened to attack France, and >>>> minutes before the attack Charlie Hebdo had tweeted a satirical cartoon of >>>> that extremist group’s leader giving New Year’s wishes. Charlie Hebdo has >>>> been repeatedly threatened for publishing caricatures of the Prophet >>>> Muhammad, among other controversial sketches, and its offices were >>>> firebombed in 2011. >>>> >>>> Modal Trigger >>>> <https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/file_france_charlie_hebdo_attack1.jpg>[image: >>>> https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/file_france_charlie_hebdo_attack1.jpg?w=300&h=200] >>>> >>>> A copy of Charlie HebdoPhoto: EPA >>>> >>>> The 2011 firebombing came after a spoof issue featuring a caricature of >>>> the Prophet Muhammad on its cover. Nearly a year later, the publication >>>> again published crude Muhammad caricatures, drawing denunciations around >>>> the Muslim world. >>>> >>>> Wednesday’s attack comes the same day of the release of a book by a >>>> celebrated French novelist depicting France’s election of its first Muslim >>>> president. 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