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DOJ's Attempt To Turn 4th Amendment Into A 'Useless Piece Of Paper' Called
Out By Justice Sotomayor

The Supreme Court's recent track record on the Fourth Amendment has been
inconsistent, to say the least. For every win -- like the *warrant
requirement*
<https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140625/10272227684/supreme-court-says-law-enforcement-cant-search-mobile-phones-without-warrant.shtml>
for cellphone searches incident to arrest (*Riley v. California*) --
there's been a loss -- the court's granting of permanent forgiveness for
officers *who predicate stops on nonexistent laws*
<http://blog.simplejustice.us/2014/12/16/heien-v-north-carolina-close-enough/>
(*Heien v. North Carolina*), as long as the mistake is determined to be
"objectively reasonable."

The oral arguments in *Rodriguez v. United States* [*pdf link*
<http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/13-9972_1a7d.pdf>]
deal with another attempted expansion of law enforcement powers at the
expense of the Fourth Amendment. Here's a the backstory, *as summarized by
Evan Bernick of HuffPo (and the Institute for Justice)*
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evan-bernick/justice-sotomayor_b_6534970.html>:


*On March 27, 2012, Nebraska police officer Morgan Struble stopped Dennys
Rodriguez for swerving once towards the shoulder of the road. After
questioning Rodriguez and issuing him a written warning, Struble asked
permission to walk his drug-sniffing dog around the outside of Rodriguez's
vehicle. When Rodriguez refused, Struble made him exit the vehicle and wait
for backup to arrive. Roughly eight minutes later, a second officer showed
up, and Struble led his dog around the car. The dog gave an "alert" for
illegal drugs, and a subsequent search turned up a bag of methamphetamine.*

A previous decision by the Supreme Court (*Illinois v. Caballes*) concluded
that the use of a drug-sniffing dog during a regular traffic stop was *not*
a Fourth Amendment violation, provided the stop was not prolonged past the
point of "completing that mission [the traffic stop]." Prolonged stops have
been argued before, but in this particular case, there was no question that
the "mission" had been "completed." It was only *after* the officer told
Rodriguez he would let him off with warning that he brought up the subject
of searching the vehicle.

The DOJ's lawyer, Ginger Anders, argued that officers should have some
leeway in determining the "sequence of the stop." Applied to this
situation, the DOJ is basically arguing that a cop can tell you you're free
to go and then ask you to wait while he brings in a drug dog to search your
vehicle. Anders' theory is that this contradictory sequence still respects
the Fourth Amendment so long as the *length* of the stop doesn't exceed the
nebulous standard of "routine time needed."

It's this slippery "routine time" that most of the argument is focused on.
Both sides attempted to determine where that lies exactly on the space-time
continuum, but Rodriguez's lawyer (reasonably) pointed out that the key
issue should be the "completion of the mission," not the amount of time it
takes to reach that point.

This attempt to reduce the Fourth Amendment to a specific number of
minute-hand movement reaches its simultaneous zenith/nadir during this
exchange with the DOJ's lawyer.

*JUSTICE BREYER: Okay. But that's where ­­ I thought that position that
I've tried to -- ­­let me state it more clearly, I think. It is unlawful to
have the dog sniff where the dog sniff unreasonably prolongs the stop, is
that -- ­does --­­ is that okay if I write with the government -- ­­ if I
write those words in an opinion?*

*MS. ANDERS: That's right. But we don't think that a dog sniff performed
right after the ticket per se unreasonably prolongs the stop. And if I
could give you a hypothetical that ­­--*

*JUSTICE BREYER: Ah. Well, how ­ if the ticket­writing is over and there is
nothing else to do and the policeman says, hey, this is over, at that point
has it not unreasonably prolonged the stop if the sniff takes place
afterwards?*

*MS. ANDERS: I don't think so. I mean, just imagine ­­--*

*JUSTICE BREYER: Because?*

*JUSTICE SCALIA: Because that takes only two minutes and that's not
unreasonable, right?*

*MS. ANDERS: That's right. And it doesn't take into account how he stops
­­--*

*JUSTICE SCALIA: Big deal. The dog walks around the car for two minutes.
That's ­­--*

*CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: It's only a violation of the Fourth Amendment for
two minutes, right?*

*(Laughter.)*

Presumably, Scalia was being facetious. But the underlying thrust of the
government's position is clear: it wants the leeway to perform extraneous
searches so long as it can fit it in under a vague time limit determined by
an even vaguer "reasonable standard."

And if that's not feasible because the 2005 *Caballes* decision
theoretically limits stops to a "reasonable" length of time, the government
proposes another solution: just stick a K-9 in every cop car. Justice
Sotomayor steps up to shut down this line of thinking.

*MS. ANDERS: So the hypothetical that I propose is that if you imagine you
have two officers conducting a stop and the first officer is explaining the
ticket and what's happening with the ticket to the person, to the driver.
While he's doing that, the second officer is performing the dog sniff
around the car. If the officer who's explaining the ticket ends first and
the dog sniff takes another 30 seconds, I don't think there's any reason to
say that that stop, which maybe lasted a total of ten minutes has -- has
gone on for longer than reasonably required to complete the traffic ticket.*









*JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: Well, I have a ­­-- I have a real fundamental question,
because this line drawing is only here because we've now created a Fourth
Amendment entitlement to search for drugs by using dogs, whenever anybody's
stopped. Because that's what you're proposing. And is that really what the
Fourth Amendment should permit? MS. ANDERS: I don't think it's an
entitlement, Justice Sotomayor. I think once the Court said in Caballes
that ­-- that it is permissible in some circumstances to perform a dog
sniff during a traffic stop, then ­­-- JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: Well, in some
circumstances. So why don't ­-- why don't we keep it cabined to Caballes,
which is when it's being done simultaneous with writing the ticket. If it's
not, then it's unlawful. MS. ANDERS: Well, because that leads to arbitrary
results as I was explaining with Justice Breyer, I think in that
hypothetical ­­-- JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: It's not arbitrary. The Fourth
Amendment is arbitrary by its nature. It says you can't search unless you
have probable cause to search.*

Later on, as this particular angle is argued further, Sotomayor comes down
even more harshly on the government's assertions, noting that what it's
attempting to do is grant itself more power at the expense of citizens'
rights.

*But the way Justice Breyer has said this -- what he's saying is you can't
unreasonably prolong. You can't hold a person any -- any measurable time
that would allow to get the dog. And, yes, it has to do with the resources
of the police department, but we can't keep bending the Fourth Amendment to
the resources of law enforcement. Particularly when this stop is not -- is
not incidental to the purpose of the stop. It's purely to help the police
get more criminals, yes. But then the Fourth Amendment becomes a useless
piece of paper*.

This appears to be the DOJ's goal, if its arguments in this case --
and *previous
cases*
<https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20130819/18571524246/administration-keeps-chipping-away-fourth-amendment-asks-supreme-court-to-allow-warrantless-cell-phone-searches.shtml>
like *Riley* -- are to be believed. In its eyes, the Fourth Amendment is
something that *should be subject*
<https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140423/15081827008/government-argues-that-warrant-requirement-cell-phone-searches-does-nothing-keep-cops-catching-bad-guys.shtml>
to law enforcement's needs and wants, rather than something to be respected
and complied with.



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