blah blah blah.  you libs really enjoy surrendering to terrorists bent
on killing you don't ya?  what a sorry lot you fools are.  a good
defense is a good offense.  take the fight to them, fool.  take the
fight to them.

On Nov 2, 1:47 pm, "M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> October 31, 2008Conservative Fantasies: A World Never More DangerousDoug 
> BandowOver the last eight years the Bush administration has sacrificed 
> American lives, resources, and influence at every turn. President George W. 
> Bush, with the avid support of Sen. John McCain and most of the Republican 
> Party, took the US into an unnecessary war in Iraq, increased the number of 
> America's enemies and the threat of terrorism, strengthened the Iranian 
> regime, and sacrificed US clout with friends and foes alike. Yet polls 
> indicate that more Americans trust Sen. McCain than Sen. Barack Obama as 
> military commander-in-chief.
> It's a bizarre conclusion. Sen. McCain is temperamental, sanctimonious, and 
> moralistic; surprisingly ignorant about the nuances of international affairs, 
> he believes take the fight hat he knows far more about foreign policy than he 
> actually does. It would be a combustible combination even if he hadn't 
> variously advocated war against the Bosnian Serbs, Serbia, Iraq, and North 
> Korea, as well as promoted confrontation with Russia, a nuclear-armed power. 
> He could prove to be the most dangerous occupant ever of the White House.
> Nevertheless, the Republican sales pitch so far has fallen short. The public 
> cares more about the economy than foreign policy. While Sen. Obama's economic 
> nostrums are no more believable than those of Sen. McCain, the Republican 
> Party has lost any credibility it once had on economic issues. Sen. Obama 
> might not have the answer, but at least he belongs to a different party than 
> the one which spent the last eight years engaging in wild spending and 
> orchestrating trillions of dollars in special interest bailouts.
> The GOP has responded by scare-mongering, attempting to convince the American 
> people that foreign policy remains paramount. Never mind the economy. The 
> world is about to end unless a steady Republican hand remains upon the 
> tiller. Republicans warn of potential terrorist strikes at home and 
> unpredictable dangers abroad. Neoconservatives talk about the US being 
> engaged in World War III or World War IV against Islamic terrorists.
> Rep. John Shadegg recently took the argument to ludicrous extremes when he 
> wrote his supporters denouncing any cut in military spending – currently 
> higher, even after adjusting for inflation, than at any point during the Cold 
> War, Korean War, or Vietnam War. Complained Shadegg: "Our nation is facing 
> the threat of Radical Islam, the gravest threat to our national security in 
> history."
> Eh?
> On September 11 al-Qaeda orchestrated three murderous attacks that killed 
> about 3000 people. Evil, awful, and ugly. But in no way threatening the 
> stability of the US government, let alone the destruction of American society.
> Other countries have faced great and often greater challenges from terrorism: 
> the Irish Republican Army versus the British government, the Basque ETA 
> versus the Spanish government, the Tamil Tigers versus the Sri Lankan 
> government, the Red Brigades versus the Italian government. Terrorists have 
> struck in Greece, Germany, Japan, Uruguay, India, and even imperial Russia. 
> Islamic radicals have murdered widely, including in Britain, Spain, 
> Indonesia, Jordan, and Iraq. Only in Iraq could one argue that regime if not 
> national survival was at stake, and that is only because terrorism joined a 
> far more serious insurgency in the aftermath of a foreign invasion.
> It is true that many of America's wars were not animated by security threats, 
> but instead involved frivolous or even immoral ends. The Mexican-American War 
> was basically a land grab for Texas and California. The Spanish-American War 
> used the protection of human rights in Cuba as an excuse to seize the 
> Philippines as a colony in Asia. World War I was an idiotic imperial slugfest 
> in which America had nothing significant at stake. Vietnam was more tragic 
> than stupid, an unnecessary attempt to preserve the remnants of colonialism 
> in Southeast Asia against a potent combination of nationalism and communism; 
> three decades later communism is giving way to capitalism with Americans and 
> their money welcomed back.
> Contrast that to the Revolutionary War, from which the American colonies 
> barely emerged independent. For years British forces ravaged the countryside 
> and occupied major cities, including the nascent nation's capital.
> During the War of 1812 Britain eliminated American ocean commerce, occupied 
> swaths of US territory, and burned Washington, D.C. America was saved by its 
> lack of centralization and development. Having just suffered through years of 
> war to end Napoleon's brutal depredations, the British public had no 
> enthusiasm for escalating the battle with the former colonies.
> The Civil War tore the country apart. That was an internal conflict, to be 
> sure, but for a short time the national government risked war with Britain 
> over the illegal seizure of the Trent, a mail and passenger vessel, and in 
> the first year or two the potential of intervention by Britain and France in 
> support of the Confederacy loomed large. For the North to have battled the 
> Southern states allied with two foreign adversaries would have made America's 
> bloodiest war far more costly.
> World War II found the US confronting Nazi Germany and militaristic Japan. 
> These were real countries animated by real ideologies deploying real 
> militaries. Washington created a 13-million man military for combat spanning 
> the globe. Although the US never came close to defeat, World War II was 
> America's first, and so far only, taste of the sort of total war which has 
> consumed other nations.
> During the Cold War, with some very hot spots, the US faced a nuclear-armed 
> hegemonic power animated by a hostile ideology. There was nearly a direct 
> nuclear confrontation over Cuba, wars between the US and local communist 
> regimes – North Korea, backed by China, and North Vietnam, supplied by China 
> and the Soviet Union – and proxy wars throughout the Third World. Although 
> the two great powers and their respective alliances avoided the many 
> tripwires for a new global war, few people took peace for granted: indeed, 
> for a time American schoolchildren practiced taking cover in response to a 
> possible nuclear war.
> However, apparently Rep. Shadegg believes these conflicts to be minor 
> compared to the threat of terrorism. The Soviet Union was capable of 
> launching a nuclear attack that could annihilate the United States. Imperial 
> Japan ranged throughout the Pacific seizing US possessions and attacking 
> American territory in Hawaii and the Aleutians. Nazi Germany battled the US 
> Navy in the Atlantic, the US Air Force over Europe, and the US Army in North 
> Africa and Europe.
> But no matter. It is a few jihadist terrorists who pose "the gravest threat 
> to our national security in history," in the words of Rep. Shadegg. Which 
> means not a single dollar can be cut from the defense budget. To the 
> contrary, the only way to fight the terrorists is to create the biggest, most 
> expansive, most expensive, most advanced military, deploy it to every corner 
> of the globe, and meddle in numerous tragic but irrelevant conflicts. The US 
> must spend as much as the rest of the world combined on the military. And 
> spend as much, adjusted for inflation, as the US spent at any point during 
> the Cold War, Korean War, or Vietnam War. Indeed, presumably Washington isn't 
> spending enough to fight jihadists because military outlays still lag behind 
> expenditures during World War II. What is Congress thinking? If Osama bin 
> Laden is more dangerous than Adolf Hitler, Hideki Tojo, Joseph Stalin, and 
> Mao Zedong, why aren't we spending even more on defense!
> The upcoming election has focused on economic issues, but the present 
> administration's irresponsible foreign policy has wasted hundreds of billions 
> of dollars while creating trillions of dollars in future liabilities. More 
> important, Americans have been made less secure as politicians like Rep. 
> Shadegg have misled the public about the kind of enemy the US faces and the 
> best means of defending the country.
> Terrorism is ugly. But it does not constitute the most serious threat ever 
> faced by America, akin to another world war. We will be safer not with 
> additional expensive carrier groups and air wings to back a belligerent 
> stance against countries like Russia over irrelevant geopolitical struggles 
> in the Caucasus, but with a noninterventionist foreign policy which 
> steadfastly avoids unnecessary conflicts. The world is filled with tragedy, 
> but that doesn't mean the US has to join in at every opportunity.
> Republicans as well as Democrats once believed that the federal government's 
> job was to defend America, not wander the globe, mixing war-mongering with 
> social engineering. Over the last eight years, however, the national 
> government has become a tool of neoconservative activists who see war as the 
> ultimate solution to most foreign problems. The economy is an important 
> issue. But so is foreign policy. We cannot afford another four or eight years 
> of misguided militarism and perpetual 
> war.http://www.antiwar.com/bandow/?articleid=13694
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