Rubio must be a threat because out comes the knives......they did it to Carson now it's Rubio's turn......why not Hilary or Obama.....do you really think a Senator from the corrupt State of Ill. could get to the US Senate if he were clean as a wistle....if you believe that then I have a heavley travelled bridge for sale in NYC. ____________________________________ From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 11/11/2015 9:19:20 A.M. Pacific Standard Time Subj: Re: Rubio looks Good to me
1) He is not the son of Cuban exiles. He thinks. Maybe? Up until last year, Marco Rubio described his parents as exiles from Fidel Castro's communist regime in Cuba: "In 1971, Marco was born in Miami to Cuban-born parents who came to America following Fidel Castro's takeover," his Senate biography _stated_ (http://web.archive.org/web/20110208005828/http://rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/about?p=biography) . But it turns out his parents _actually arrived in the US in 1956_ (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/documents-give-shape-to-marco-rubios-family-history-but-raise-new-questions/ 1198570) , before the revolution, and even made multiple trips back to the communist island. Rubio insisted he hadn't known his family's actual history, but _polls showed_ (http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/poll-florida-voters-say-rubio-exaggerated-family-story-flat-tax) most of his constituents thought he'd "embellished" his account. Things get even messier: According to a Rubio biography due out in June byWashington Post reporter Manuel Roig-Franzia, Rubio's grandfather Pedro Victor Garcia was an illegal immigrant to the United States. Disillusioned by his financial prospects, Garcia reportedly left the United States for Cuba two weeks after Fidel Castro took power in 1959. He flew back to the States two years later without a visa...and was booked by a US immigration official, who stated: "[Y]ou do not appear to me to be clearly and beyond a doubt entitled to enter the United States." Garcia was ordered deported, but instead he hung out illegally in Miami, resurfacing in 1967 to petition for permanent residency. Even though Garcia had been in the US since 1962, "The form he filled out then states that he had been a Cuban refugee since February 1965," according to Roig-Franzia. 2) His immigration policies are...complicated. Rubio's own vacillating positions on immigration parallel his grandfather's back-and-forth homeland tryouts. He was one of the first Republicans nationwide to criticize Arizona's SB1070, _saying_ (http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201005060001) it would "unreasonably single out people who are here legally." A week later, after some cosmetic changes were made to the law, Rubio said he would have voted for it. "Arizona's going to do what’s in the best interest of the people of Arizona," _he said_ (http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/feb/09/presente/most-hispanics-support-dream-act-marco-rubio-does-/) . "They have a right to do that, and I respect that." He also has _spoken out_ (http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/feb/09/presente/most-hispanics-support-dream-act-marco-rubio-does-/) against "blanket legalization" of undocumented immigrants and opposed President Obama's DREAM Act: "People in the United States who are here without documents should not benefit from programs like in-state tuition." But earlier this month—after joining Mitt on the campaign trail, and after _being attacked in a political ad_ (http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/feb/09/presente/most-hispanics-support-dream-act-marco-rubio-does-/) that stated 91 percent of Hispanics favor the DREAM Act—Rubio_vowed to write_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/marco-rubios-dream-act-alternative-a-challe nge-for-obama-on-illegal-immigration/2012/04/25/gIQA5yqxhT_story.html) on his own version of the legislation. (My colleague, Adam Serwer, has _a rundown here on the Rubio DREAM Act's weaknesses_ (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/04/does-rubios-republican-dream-act-really-paint-obama-corner) ...and why it's basically a canard.) 3) He's Mormon. And Catholic. And Protestant. And…Like most Cuban-American Floridians, Rubio identifies himself as Catholic. But on moving with his family to Las Vegas in 1979, he converted to Mormonism. _According_ (http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/new-marco-rubio-book-to-detail- his-familys-immigrant-past.html) to Roig-Franzia: Marco attended LDS youth groups and often walked to chapel with his family because his mother could not drive. The cousins idolized the Osmonds… "Marco, his sister, Veronica, and their cousin, Michelle, liked to perform Osmond songs at family get-togethers. [Rubio] was so entranced by the Osmonds that he joined [a]…trip to Provo, Utah, to tour the pop group's recording studio. Rubio claims he returned to the Catholic church as a teen, on his family's return to Miami. But since his Senate run, he's also _been a regular parishioner_ (http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/02/the-many-flavors-of-marco-rubios-religious-tastes-catholic-baptist-mormon-.html) at a non-denominational Baptist-affiliated megachurch—and he's been happy _to let both churches embrace him_ (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/exclusive-marco-rubios-mormon-roots) and his "_faith journey._ (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/23/v-fullstory/2657517/sen-rubios-mormon-past-comes-to.html) " In recent months, though, _he's denied_ (http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/marco-rubio-talks-about-his-mormon-youth) that Mormonism was ever an influence in his life: "When you're eight years old you do what your parents tell you to do." In a separate interview, his cousin Michelle Denis _told Buzzfeed_ (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/exclusive-marco-rubios-mormon-roots) , "He could convince his mom to do anything," adding, "He was totally into [Mormonism]." 4) He's a climate denier. Or an environmentalist. Or...As speaker of the Florida Legislature, Rubio _shepherded_ (http://www.insideclimatenews.org/news/20101101/get-elected-floridas-rubio-leaving-climate-action-past-behind) a landmark bill to limit greenhouse gas emissions, voiced caution about drilling off the Sunshine State's coast, and argued that climate change was real. "Global warming, dependence on foreign sources of fuel, and capitalism have come together to create opportunities for us that were unimaginable just a few short years ago," _he told_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei6QcE50Sq0) his House colleagues in 2007. Of drilling, _he said_ (http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/2008/06/rubio-explore-o.html) it should only be done if it could be proven environmentally safe, and it wasn't a silver bullet: "Even if we started drilling tomorrow morning, it could take close to 10 years before we start seeing the benefits." But as soon as he jumped into the US Senate race, his love for Mother Earth faded. He stumped for a Palinesque pro-oil campaign called "_Drill Here, Drill Now._ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-74bhKZL_XA) " He ridiculed cap-and-trade emissions plans as "European-style" or "California-style" social engineering. And he attacked his Senate opponent, the moderate Republican-turned-independent Charlie Crist, as "a believer in man-made global warming." "I don't think there's the scientific evidence to justify it," he _told the Tampa Tribune_ (http://www2.tbo.com/news/metro/2010/feb/13/na-rubio-questions-climate-change-ar-83470/) . 5) He charged a $134 haircut—or back wax?—to the GOP. Along with $109,000 of swag. For a fiscal conservative, Rubio's pretty liberal with money. When he was state House speaker, the Republican Party of Florida issued Rubio and a few other party insiders corporate American Express cards...which they proceeded to burn up like a fresh can of Sterno...to the tune of $7.3 million. Rubio's charges included a $134 bill from Churchill's, a tony Miami hair salon "_barbershop with $20 haircuts_ (https://twitter.com/#!/Choire/status/195904288256557056) "; some critics _have suggested_ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20000177-503544.html) Rubio used his card to pay for some special depilatory treatments. Rubio insists he repaid American Express for personal expenses amounting to $16,000, but _that leaves $94,000_ (http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/03/tea-party-hero-110k-gop-tab-rubio-crist-florida) that the party picked up— including repairs to his family minivan, thousands for a personal car rental, a Disney World vacation, tons of air travel, and repeat trips to a convenience store around the corner from the Rubio homestead. Politifact _tried_ (http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2010/mar/11/marco-rubio/rubio-go p-credit-card-my-money/) to parse out what the party paid for—a full listing of the charges _is here_ (http://news.jacksonville.com/db/gopexpenses/index.php?action=details&cid=18) —but the GOP's paperwork was in disarray. It doesn't help that the state party chairman at the time is _currently in jail_ (http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/12/rubio-rivera-mom-money-gop-dog-track) for skimming off the top from GOP accounts. 6) He's got friends in low places. Throughout his political career, Rubio's been called a corrupt wheeler-and-dealer by everyone from the Florida Democrats to Mitt Romney's press secretary (see No. 8 below). Perhaps it's the company he keeps. He's been something of a _mentor to Rep. David Rivera (R-Fla.)_ (http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/12/rubio-rivera-mom-money-gop-dog-track) since they came up together in the state Legislature—they went in together on a house in Tallahassee, which went into foreclosure when they failed to pay the mortgage. Rivera—who once forced an opponent's campaign truck off the side of an interstate highway with his car—is now _under state and federal investigations_ (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/74965.html) for a spate of financial corruption allegations, mostly focusing on nepotistic lobbying. That's something Rubio would know about from his days running Floridians for Conservative Leadership, a political committee that _at one time or another_ (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/marco-rubios-lavish-rise-to-the-top/1079473) employed Rubio's mother-in-law and three other members of Rubio's wife's family. His wife was the treasurer; between them, they _failed to report $34,000_ (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/marco-rubios-lavish-rise-to-the-top/1079473) of contributions in an 18-month period. He's also enjoyed _a cozy relationship_ (http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/rubiobovo-consulting-web) with state Rep. Esteban Bovo, who's a lobbyist by day, and Bovo's wife, also a lobbyist, who ended up on a couple of air trips with Rubio that were charged to that GOP credit card. Another young health care lobbyist, Amber Stoner, _also shows up_ (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/26/1058793/-Marco-Rubio-s-financial-problems-updated-) as a recipient of 10 paid flights with Rubio on his Republican Amex. It goes deeper, but trying to untangle Rubio's lobbyist and dark-money connections is like trying to flowchart Whitewater and Iran-Contra while eating spaghetti with chopsticks outside, at night, in the middle of a hurricane. 7) He had 100 bright ideas to fix Florida, which mostly fixed his friends' finances. In making his 2006 bid to be the No. 1 Republican in Florida's statehouse, Rubio touted a book he'd written, _100 Innovative Ideas for Florida's Future_ (http://www.amazon.com/100-Innovative-Ideas-Floridas-Future/dp/1596985119) , as a blueprint for legislative action. Rubio later claimed that 57 of his ideas were made into law by the Florida Legislature; Politifact _found only 24_ (http://%20http//www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2010/feb/26/marco-rubio/rubio-claims-57-his-100-ideas-were-made-law-florid/) . Some, like_whistleblower protection for prostitutes who snitch on their pimps_ (http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/crist-finds-rubio-idea-weird) , never saw the light of day in the Legislature. Rubio also started a nonprofit foundation and website, 100ideas.org, to solicit more ideas, though it's unclear what the organization accomplished, beyond padding the pockets of a few political allies. Much of 100ideas.org's roughly $100,000 a year of funding went to the political consulting firm that _set up and ran_ (http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2009/260/712/2009-260712245-0694bf54-Z.pdf) the nonprofit: Frontline Strategies, a boutique outfit _run_ (http://www.flstrategies.com/about.cfm) by the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign's Florida director. 100ideas.org's _president_ (http://web.archive.org/web/20090205050833/http://www.100ideas.org/board-members) , William Holly, is a Miami real estate developer who got his start working for the Codina Bush group, a firm _co-owned by Jeb Bush_ (http://www.sptimes.com/State/92098/Make_The_Money_and_Ru.html) . Holly's and Bush's business interests benefited greatly from Rubio's anti-tax "ideas" in the statehouse. (After Rubio left for Washington, it seems Holly's fortunes soured; he _declared bankruptcy just last month_ (http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2012/03/01/broker-william-holly-files-chap-7.html?page=all) , after creditors won more than $40 million in foreclosure judgments against him.) 8) Mitt's spokeswoman has called Rubio "a wheeling and dealing Miami lobbyist and politician, always trying to scam the system for his personal benefit." Before stumping for Romney, national press secretary Andrea Saul was the communications director for Crist, Rubio's Senate opponent, and _she assailed Rubio_ (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/romney-spokeswoman-in-2010-marco-rubio-is-a-wheeling-and-dealing-lobbyist-politician-w-questi onable-ethics/) as "another typical politician." Her biggest knock against the Florida House speaker: "With each passing day, voters are beginning to see the real Speaker Rubio, a tax raising Miami lobbyist-politician who has used public office for personal gain and political donations as a personal slush fund." Asked by ABC's Jonathan Karl about her comments, Saul declined to respond. 9) He called Barack Obama a socialist before it was cool. Back in early September of 2008—before the presidential election, and before the economy fell off a cliff—_Rubio said_ (http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/rubio-obama-socialism) "Marx would be pleased" by Obama's fiscal proposals. "I love what Barack Obama's candidacy says about America. I just fear what his candidacy would do to America," he said. "To leave our children with a centrally planned socialist economy is not a better plan." 10) He endorsed Huck in 2008. And Huck endorsed him in 2010. And 2012. Seeking to raise his profile, Rubio (and buddy David Rivera) threw their support behind populist conservative Mike Huckabee's unsuccessful bid for the GOP presidential nomination. Huckabee returned the favor, endorsing Rubio _for Senate_ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/27/huckabee-to-endorse-rubio-for-florida-senate-seat/) —and, more recently, _for vice president_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/marco-rubio-should-be-romneys-vp-choice-huckabee-says/2012/04/15/gIQASM1KJT_blog.html) . What's the source of the synergy? Huckabee was a real genuine guy, Rubio _said in '08_ (http://floridaforhuckabee.blogspot.com/2007/12/speaker-marco-rubio-endorses-huckabee.html) , and "people are looking for genuineness and sincerity in politics." On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 11:13:49 AM UTC-6, Bill wrote: Senator Rubio from Florida is looking better and better to me. Not only is he easy on the eyes, but his answers to complex questions are direct and to the point and in language any American can understand. He is gathering stature in my estamation. He is conservative but a common sense conservative and not doctrinaire like the Senator from Kentucky. Now, Rand Paul is valuable because he has a different point of view and will come at a problem from a different persespective.....that's what we need in Washington.....honest debate on the issues not the knee jerk liberal standard responses of politically correct BS that we hear from the Dumbocrats. Trump has set the agenda for the GOP and the so called vetting that the press did on Carson in this past week turned out to be a bunch of hooey and disproved by some other press folks but did any of them say they were sorry for smearing the good Doctor. Not on your life......shows what Dumbocratic hacks they really are cleveryly labeled "independent press".......but they ain't !! Where are the Edward R Murrors' and Cronkites' of this world ......not in journalism any longer......just pretty faces, handsome heads, but empty heads who are parrots spouting the politically correct lines of their producers.....Back to the debate......Carly is looking like a good VP choice for one of the establishment Seantors. Quick witted.....she can take on and say to Hilary things that a man can not say because the Dumbo's would attack him for being anti woman. The Dumbo's always go after the messenger when they have no response to the message..... -- -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at _http://www.PoliticalForum.com/_ (http://www.politicalforum.com/) * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PoliticalForum" group. 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