Obviously you must believe that the Republican (and I assume the Democratic Party) are made up on neoconservatives. Either you (and Murray Sabin) don't understand what a "Neo-Con" is; and/or you're mistaken.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:54 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah ... sure ... we can go with that. > > Regard$, > --MJ > > "With the World War mankind got into a crisis with which nothing that > happened before in history can be compared.... In the world crisis whose > beginning we are experiencing, all peoples of the world are involved.... > War has become more fearful because it is waged with all the means of the > highly developed technique that the free economy has created.... Never was > the individual more tyrannized than since the outbreak of the World War and > especially of the world revolution. One cannot escape the police and > administrative technique of the present day." -- Ludwig von Mises (1919) > > > > At 08:54 AM 11/15/2015, you wrote: > > > *"[R]ubio's view of America's role in the world reveals how the > neoconservative ideology of making the "world safe for democracy" is the > overriding foreign policy objective of the Republican Party and Hillary > Rodham Clinton, the Democratic Party's front runner for the presidential > nomination." * > Obviously,  Murray Sabrin didn't watch any of the Republican or > Democratic debates..... > > > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:40 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > November 15, 2015   Last updated: Sunday, November 15, 2015 > Conservatives grapple over foreign policy >  By MURRAY SABRIN > The Record > > AT THE FOURTH Republican presidential debate, hosted by FOX Business News, > one of the more contentious exchanges took place between Sens. Marco Rubio > and Rand Paul about U.S. foreign policy and the government spending. > > RUBIO: Yes, I do want to rebuild the American military  > PAUL: How is that conservative? > RUBIO: I know Rand [Paul] is a committed isolationist, I am not. I believe > the world is a stronger and a better place when America is the strongest > military power in the world. > PAUL: Marco! Marco! How is it conservative to add a $1 trillion > expenditure to the federal government  > RUBIO: Because  > PAUL: How is it conservative to add $1 trillion in military expenditures? > You cannot be a conservative if you keep promoting new programs that you're > not going to pay for. > RUBIO: We can't even have an economy if we're not safe. There are radical > Islamists in the Middle East beheading people and crucifying Christians … > Yes. I believe the world is a safer  No, no. I know that the world is a > safer and better place when America is the strongest military power in the > world. > > Based upon the statements made by the other six candidates in the > so-called first-tier debate, as well as the four candidates including > Governor Christie in the undercard debate, Rubio's view of America's role > in the world reveals how the neoconservative ideology of making the "world > safe for democracy" is the overriding foreign policy objective of the > Republican Party and Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Democratic Party's front > runner for the presidential nomination. > > In short, neoconservatives will be the clear winner in next year's > presidential election, because both parties have embraced the illegal, > unconstitutional and immoral principle that undeclared war is a legitimate > use of American military power around the world. > > Nevertheless, dissecting Rubio's statements and presenting the facts of > the federal government's interventions around the world clearly reveal that > the American role in the world is not altruistic. Moreover, as Randolph > Bourne claimed 100 years ago, "War is the health of the state." And, > General Smedley Butler, one of the most decorated military officers in the > 20th century, proclaimed, "War is a racket." > > > A 'just' war > First, what is a "just" war? According to economist, historian and > libertarian philosopher Murray Rothbard, "A just war exists when a people > tries to ward off the threat of coercive domination by another people, or > to overthrow an already existing domination. A war is unjust, on the other > hand, when a people try to impose domination on another people, or try to > retain an already existing coercive rule over them." > > By these criteria none of the federal government's use of military force > since the end of World War II has been justified. In fact, even the U.S. > entry into World War I does not meet the criteria of a just war. > > Second, if war does occur, the so-called theory of just war developed by > both Catholic and Protestant philosophers, civilians are not supposed to be > targeted. However, according to research published in the American Journal > of Public Health in 2014, about 90 percent of casualties in wars are > noncombatant civilians. According to GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson, > that's life – and gruesome deaths for the men, women annd children caught > up in state-sponsored mass murder, which is the essence of war. > > > Military intervention > Rubio calling Paul an "isolationist" is a slur. Any criticism of our > bipartisan, interventionist policy is supposedly an unconscionable slap > against America's global "leadership." The Florida senator and the rest of > the neoconservatives running for president equate American global > leadership with virtually unrestrained military intervention. By last > count, our government has been involved militarily in 191 countries > according to Christopher Kelly and Stuart Laycock, in their book "America > Invades: How We've Invaded or Been Militarily Involved with Almost Every > Country on Earth." > > According to analysts, nearly $1 trillion is actually spent on defense > including bases in more than 100 countries around the world. While we pour > money into such "defense," our roads are crumbling and our economy is > distorted by the channeling of the public's money into excessive weapons of > mass destruction. > > Lastly, American intervention in the Middle East has destabilized the > region by removing dictators who became unacceptable to American political > leaders of both parties. The rise of radical Islamists that Rubio and his > fellow Republicans and Hillary Clinton decry is a direct result of the > failed neoconservative policy that has led to beheadings of both Christians > and others. > > Murray Sabrin is professor of finance at Ramapo College and former > candidate for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate. > > > http://www.northjersey.com/opinion/opinion-guest-writers/conservatives-grapple-over-foreign-policy-1.1455820 > > -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >  > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "PoliticalForum" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "PoliticalForum" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "PoliticalForum" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PoliticalForum" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
