So,  Reichard White thinks that we as a Nation are terrorists, and John Doe
(of which the moniker in a political discussion group sounds terroristic in
and of itself)  thinks that all of our efforts revolve around oil.....

Maybe, just maybe rhetoric like this is a part and parcel of the problem?
The dissent; the whole "Divide & Conquer"  deal?

Just a thought.....

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 7:22 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>
wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ybsEhlT2DA
>
> On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 2:08:42 PM UTC-6, MJ wrote:
>>
>>
>> November 28, 2015
>>
>> *Why You BETTER Stop Terrorism and How To Do It *By L. Reichard White
>>
>> How can we stop terrorism?
>>
>> Before you commit yourself though, you might want to consider the
>> following – – –
>>
>> ~”There is no way to stop a dedicated terrorist who is willing to pay the
>> price.” –Desert Storm General Norman Schwartzkopf, Ret., MSNBC
>>
>> ~”The asymmetrical advantage a terrorist has is that he can strike any
>> place at any time, using any conceivable method of attack, and this is
>> impossible to defend against.” –U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, CNN
>> Late Edition “It’s impossible to have a police officer every place. That
>> would be unrealistic and it would change the nature of a free society.”
>> –NYC Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, quoted by Brian Jenkins, CNN Live
>>
>> But let’s say we decide to take New York Mayor Giuliani’s prescription
>> seriously. We “change the nature of society,” and arrange to “have a police
>> officer every place.” Would that work?
>>
>> If you take a close look at pictures from the Boston Marathon bombing,
>> you will see that when those pressure-cooker bombs exploded, both sides
>> of the street were lined with police officers
>> <http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/04/22/sports/40943-moment/40943-moment-blog480.jpg>
>> .
>>
>> So even if you manage to “have a police officer every place,” that won’t
>> protect you.
>>
>> And the FBI can’t save you either – – –
>>
>> FBI Report: Agency Couldn’t Prevent the Boston Bombings
>> <http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-report-agency-couldnt-prevent-boston-bombings-214006394.html>
>>
>> In fact, FBI tactics may
>> <http://lreichardwhite.blogspot.com/2012/02/the-fbi-greatest-hits.html#entrapment_record>
>> seriously endanger you
>> <http://lreichardwhite.blogspot.com/2012/02/the-fbi-greatest-hits.html#entrapment_record>
>> .
>>
>> Here’s the problem in a nutshell – – –
>>
>> The list of vulnerabilities is perilously long in Baltimore, as it is
>> just about everywhere in the United States. … ”So how would you defend
>> against frogmen blowing up half the harbor?” I asked [Sgt. George]
>> McClaskey. … The sergeant shrugged uneasily. “Honestly,” he confessed, “I
>> don’t think it’s possible.” …Now factor in the 276,000 natural gas wells in
>> the U.S., the 1.5 million miles of unprotected pipelines, the 161 oil
>> refineries, 2,000 oil storage facilities and 10,400 hydro, coal and
>> gas-fired power generating stations … –Fortress America, The New York
>> Times Magazine
>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/23/magazine/23FORTRESS.html?ex=1046989456&ei=1&en=b9d7b9dd891dca36>
>>
>> So clearly, we’re not protected from terrorists. And can’t be. It’s
>> called “ Fourth Generation Warfare
>> <http://lreichardwhite.blogspot.com/2012/03/why-goliath-is-underdog-001.html>.”
>> There’s plenty more proof
>> <http://ncc-1776.org/tle2015/tle809-20150215-03.html>, but unless you’re
>> a masochist, you probably don’t want to know. Here
>> <http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2002/libe183-20020722-03.html>, for example.
>> And here <http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2002/libe191-20020923-02.html>, here
>> <http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2002/libe193-20021007-08.html>, here
>> <http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2003/libe212-20030224-06.html> and here
>> <http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/09/10/white.htm> etc.
>>
>> And there’s one other thing. The nukes – – –
>>
>> OMAHA, Neb. (AP) – Investment guru Warren Buffett offered a bleak
>> prediction for the nation’s national security, saying a terrorist attack on
>> American soil is “virtually a certainty.” … “We’re going to have something
>> in the way of a major nuclear event in this country,” said Buffett … “It
>> will happen. Whether it will happen in 10 years or 10 minutes, or 50 years
>> … it’s virtually a certainty.” –Billionaire Predicts Nuclear Attack, JOE
>> RUFF, Associated Press
>> <http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/general/2002/05/06/buffett-nuclear-attack.htm>
>>  BLOOMINGTON,
>> Ill. State Farm, the nation’s largest auto and residential insurer, is
>> changing its car insurance policies to clearly exclude claims stemming from
>> nuclear explosions or radioactive fallout. The Bloomington-based insurer
>> …says nuclear blasts or radioactive damage are not normal road hazards,
>> whether the incidents are accidental or intentional. –State Farm Cuts
>> Nuke Damage From Coverage, AP
>> <http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1708.htm>
>>
>> And don’t forget Dave Barry’s “Big Trouble
>> <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246464/>” ­ the movie that was postponed
>> because it was too realistic. It stars a backpack nuke smuggled into
>> Florida – – –
>>
>> OK, forget about the nukes. But before you do, do you remember that ABC
>> news team which, to test U.S. defenses, toted depleted uranium into the
>> U.S., definitively proving pissed-off folks could smuggle nukes into the
>> heartland?
>>
>> They did it twice, once through the
>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Story?id=129321> premiere checkpoint in the
>> Port of New York <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Story?id=129321> and then,
>> the following year, through The Port of Los Angeles
>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129441>.
>>
>> They did it without getting busted. Until they published their Los
>> Angeles story, which apparently scared the kids ­ and made the
>> law-and-order-industry look bad and fear for their plush budgets. Then the
>> ABC news team got busted.
>>
>> O.K. So, one way or another
>> <http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2014/tle766-20140413-03.html>, it looks like
>> we might get nuked.
>>
>> And don’t forget biological weapons <http://tinyurl.com/mozovob>.
>>
>> So now you have an idea of the first part of the title, “Why You BETTER
>> Stop Terrorism.”
>>
>> And about now, you may be thinking things like “That @#$&ing writer, the
>> $@$!@rd tells us we BETTER Stop Terrorism then convinces us we can’t! Get
>> me a rope and find me a nice stout tree branch!”
>>
>> Now hold on a minute! I hope I’ve convinced you that you can’t
>> beprotected from terrorism, not that you can’t stop it. I know it’s subtle,
>> but there’s a difference.
>>
>> Here’s the key:
>>
>> “You could kill all the terrorists in Afghanistan, all the terrorists in
>> the world. You could hang Osama bin Laden in sight of the White House. You
>> still wouldn’t have solved the problem because you will have created a
>> whole new generation of terrorists.” –Col. Richard Dunn, October, 2001
>>
>> The torture and other abuses at Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, Kandahar, etc.
>> <http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/11/06/white.htm> are regularly
>> cited as main recruiting tools for foreign terrorists as are U.S. drone
>> killings
>> <http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_air_force_whistleblowers_risk_prosecution>.
>> And then, among other international crimes, there’s Uncle Sam’s unjustified
>> and illegal invasion of Iraq
>> <http://www.antiwar.com/orig/reichard.php?articleid=6684>. It’s one of
>> those gifts that just keeps on giving – – –
>>
>> LYDIA WILSON: …They had been found guilty of terrorism for various
>> vehicle explosions and assassinations within Kirkuk [a devastated Iraqi
>> city]. … And when I gave them a chance to talk and to ask more open-ended
>> questions, it became very clear that they were fueled by a lot of anger,
>> anger primarily against the Americans…. Lydia Wilson: What I Discovered
>> from Interviewing Imprisoned Islamic State Fighters | Democracy Now!
>> <http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/17/lydia_wilson_what_i_discovered_from>
>>
>> And don’t forget all those other countries
>> <http://web.archive.org/web/20041013193153/http://www.kominf.pp.fi/4extra.html>
>> Uncle Sam bombed, droned, invaded, etc., currently including Syria,
>> Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, Libya ­ and I’ve probably
>> missed a few. And the wedding parties, funeral processions, hospitals
>> <http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/9/rejecting_us_claims_msf_details_horrific>,
>> etc. mistakes or not, blown up by bombing, drone attacks, etc. And just
>> plain “ collateral damage
>> <http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/01/08/collateral-damage-the-equations/>”
>> in general.
>>
>> “We came to the realization that the innocent civilians we were killing
>> only fueled the feelings of hatred that ignited terrorism and groups like
>> ISIS, while also serving as a fundamental recruitment tool similar to
>> Guantanamo Bay. This administration and its predecessors have built a drone
>> program that is one of the most devastating driving forces for terrorism
>> and destabilization around the world.”… Exclusive: Air Force
>> Whistleblowers Risk Prosecution to Warn Drone War Kills Civilians, Fuels
>> Terror | Democracy Now!
>> <http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_air_force_whistleblowers_risk_prosecution>
>>
>> I don’t want to shock you, but a whole lot of folks think Uncle Sam is
>> the terrorist.
>>
>> Here’s a recent example:
>>
>> “Today, Obama will arrive in the Philippines, and this is our welcome for
>> him ­ a protest that rejects his presence because we do not want the leader
>> of the United States, the chief architect of aggression and cruelty toward
>> many nations around the world, to land in the Philippines.” –Diego Torres
>> <http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/18/headlines#111810>
>>
>> Here’s what finally convinced me – – –
>>
>>
>> * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S1YkQs5nXQ&feature=youtu.be
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S1YkQs5nXQ&feature=youtu.be>*Now,
>> although U.S. officials might think half-a-million dead kids “*in
>> pursuit of U.S. Policy*” is OK, you can understand why it might
>> seriously tick other people off. Those kids’ parents, family, and friends,
>> for example. Maybe their countrymen in general. Maybe most folks of good
>> will everywhere. It might even tick *you* off – – –
>>
>> And even if Uncle stops behaving this way immediately, there will be a
>> time-lag because, by killing their kids, relatives, friends, neighbors,
>> etc., Uncle has ticked-off a LOT of folks over the decades. So you might
>> want to buy that new Glock you’ve been eying ­ and spend a little more time
>> at the range – – –
>>
>> This is a burden that will also fall on the kids, grand kids and the yet
>> unborn. None the less, the way to stop terrorism *eventually* is to stop 
>> Uncle
>> Sam from being a terrorist
>> <http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2005/tle308-20050227-04.html> *NOW*!
>>
>> I didn’t say it would be easy.
>>
>> http://www.thespiritof76.com/NEX_NEWS/MYWEB.HTM
>>
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