this article seems to attempt to absolve the bush 43 administration of it's "ill advised ?" change in successful mid east policy of parity between the Mideast powers mainly Iraq and Iran. which has led to the debacle we have today. revisionist comes to mind. regardless of ones opinion of Saddam he was no worse in terms of human rights than the majority of Arab dictators. ideologically there was connection between Saddam and Bin Laden. BIN Laden referred to Hussein as a socialist but in fact he was a gangster. but he kept the Islamic radicals and fundamentalist in check
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/12/12/the-islamic-state-was-coming-without-the-invasion-of-iraq/ > The Islamic State Was Coming Without the Invasion of Iraq > > By Kyle Orton <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/> (@KyleWOrton > <https://twitter.com/KyleWOrton>) on December 12, 2015 > > [image: Description: From top left clockwise: Fadel al-Hiyali, Ibrahim > al-Badri (Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi), Adnan al-Bilawi, Samir al-Khlifawi (Haji > Bakr), Adnan as-Suwaydawi (Abu Ayman al-Iraqi), Hamid az-Zawi (Abu Omar > al-Baghdadi), Abu Hajr as-Sufi] > > *From top left clockwise: Fadel al-Hiyali, Ibrahim al-Badri (Abu Bakr > al-Baghdadi), Adnan al-Bilawi, Samir al-Khlifawi (Haji Bakr), Adnan > as-Suwaydawi (Abu Ayman al-Iraqi), Hamid az-Zawi (Abu Omar al-Baghdadi), > Abu Hajr as-Sufi* > > Yesterday, *Reuters* had an article by Isabel Coles and Ned Parker > entitled, “How Saddam’s men help Islamic State rule > <http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/mideast-crisis-iraq-islamicstate/?utm_source=twitter/>“. > The article had a number of interesting points, but in its presentation of > the movement of former (Saddam) regime elements (FREs) into the leadership > structure of the Islamic State (IS) as a phenomenon of the last few years, > it was a step backward: the press had seemed > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/08/09/the-islamic-state-saddam-and-the-media/> > to be recognizing that the Salafization of the FREs within IS dates back to > the Islamization of Saddam Hussein’s regime > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/09/28/saddams-faith-campaign-and-the-islamic-state/> > in its last fifteen years, notably in the 1990s after the onset of the Faith > Campaign > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/saddam-and-the-islamists-part-2/> > . > > The authors do note that when IS swept across Iraq in June 2014 and > “absorbed thousands of [Ba’athist] followers,” these “new recruits joined > Saddam-era officers who *already held key posts in Islamic State*” > (italics added). But the Reuters piece then adds: > > *Most former Baathist officers have little in common with Islamic State. > Saddam promoted Arab nationalism and secularism for most of his rule. But > many of the ex-Baathists working with Islamic State are driven by self > preservation and a shared hatred of the Shi’ite-led government in Baghdad. > Others are true believers who became radicalised in the early years after > Saddam’s ouster, converted on the battlefield or in U.S. military and Iraqi > prisons.* > > The notion of a cleavage in IS between true believers and “Ba’athists” > doesn’t stack up in the article’s own presentation. The notorious Camp > Bucca where IS deliberately infiltrated men to gather recruits, some of > whom were FREs, *was* important. But the very formulation begs the > question. Why were insurgent leaders using Islam, not Ba’athism, as their > rallying cry? Why was there “no secular Sunni resistance at all,” as Joel > Rayburn, a former intelligence officer who worked with General David > Petraeus from 2007 to 2010 and wrote one of the best histories > <http://www.amazon.co.uk/Iraq-After-America-Institution-Publication/dp/0817916946/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446562148&sr=8-1&keywords=rayburn+iraq> > of post-2003 Iraq, once put it > <http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/iraqs-politics-and-its-discontents.html>? > Because Ba’athism had been dead as an ideology for at least a decade—and it > was Saddam who killed it. > > *Saddam Prepares the Ground Ideologically for Islamic State* > > Saddam had taken extensive steps > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/saddam-and-the-islamists-part-2/> > to Islamize the government and society since the mid-1980s, which profoundly > affected > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/kamel-sachet-and-islamism-in-saddams-security-forces/> > the security sector > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/a-case-study-of-the-islamic-state-as-the-saddam-regimes-afterlife-the-fedayeen-saddam/>. > While this began cynically, the evidence is that Saddam had a conversion > experience > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/did-saddam-hussein-become-a-religious-believer/>. > But even if Saddam remained a cynic, his government acted to promote a > religious movement under his leadership—call it Ba’athi-Salafism—and > reshaped society by, for example, empowering clerics as social leaders, > notably in Sunni Arab areas where they had not been before. Saddam’s > conversion and alliance with the “pure” Salafi Trend, which had long been > in opposition to the Ba’ath regime but found itself less opposed in the > latter years, deeply worried senior regime figures like intelligence chief > (and Saddam’s half-brother) Barzan al-Ibrahim, who could see the rise of > this religious militancy and predicted that it would eventually supplant > the regime. > > This is why the word ‘Ba’athist’ is so unhelpful in these discussions: it > assumes what people are being asked to prove. It also mixes together two > related but distinct streams within the Iraqi insurgency, namely the > individual FREs who joined IS as true believers > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/07/20/saddams-henchmen-were-fanatics-long-before-they-joined-the-islamic-state/> > and the FRE-led groups who worked alongside the foreign-led Jama’at > at-Tawhid wal-Jihad (JTJ), Abu Musab az-Zarqawi’s group, which would become > al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) and eventually IS, while remaining separate > entities, many of whom later turned on IS’s predecessor during the > Awakening. > > Even the more “Ba’athist” sections of the insurgency, however, grouped > around Saddam’s former deputy, Izzat ad-Douri, and the Sufi networks he had > within the regime and its security apparatus, which eventually unveiled > themselves as Jaysh Rijal at-Ṭariqa an-Naqshabandiya (JRTN), were not > secular: Islamism has always been a deeply integral > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/islamic-state-the-afterlife-of-saddam-husseins-regime/> > part of JRTN. > > And while there was a deep overlap ideologically between the Iraqi > Ba’athi-Salafists and the foreign-led jihadi-Salafists connected to > al-Qaeda who formed the insurgency after Saddam’s fall, operationally the > connection was even deeper—and longer standing. > > *Saddam’s Contacts With Islamists and Jihadists Predate 2003* > > The *Reuters* piece notes: “Baathists began collaborating with al Qaeda … > soon after Saddam Hussein was ousted in 2003.” But this isn’t right. The > first major official break with the hard-secularism that the Ba’ath regime > displayed after it brutalized its way to power in 1968 came in 1986, when > Saddam began instrumentalizing Islamists in Iraq’s foreign policy > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2014/12/17/iraq-is-still-suffering-the-effects-of-saddam-husseins-islamist-regime/>. > This would include the Muslim Brotherhood, the Taliban > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/saddam-and-the-taliban/>, > and eventually al-Qaeda, with which the Saddam regime had a long record > of contact > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/06/21/a-myth-revisited-saddam-hussein-had-no-connection-to-al-qaeda/> > dating back to at least 1992. > > But put aside the fact that when Osama bin Laden was considering leaving > Afghanistan due to tensions with the Taliban in late 1998 and early 1999, > it was to Baghdad he was considering moving. Put aside that Saddam’s > intelligence agencies funded the 2002 bombing by al-Qaeda’s Abu Sayyaf > Group that killed Sgt. Mark Wayne Jackson, the only American soldier killed > by terrorism in the Philippines. Even leave alone the ever-thorny matter of > Ansar al-Islam, through which Saddam and al-Qaeda collaborated in waging > war on the Kurdish autonomous government in northern Iraq. > > Just look at JTJ/AQI and Zarqawi: When did they arrive on Iraqi soil? > April 2002, and Zarqawi was in Baghdad by May with two-dozen other senior > al-Qaeda members, including his AQI successor Abu Hamza al-Muhajir (a.k.a. > Abu Ayyub al-Masri) and Abu Hammam as-Suri > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/09/14/al-qaeda-central-in-syria/>, > who was, until his apparent demise in March, head of the military for > Jabhat an-Nusra, al-Qaeda’s Syrian branch. It was Saddam who opened the > door and provided the crucial start-up help to the men who would form IS. > > Zarqawi was the allowed free movement across central Iraq and indeed > Iraq’s borders in this period, recruiting individuals such as Aleppo-based > Taha > Subhi Falaha <http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2014/230676.htm>, better > known as Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, IS’s powerful official spokesman, and > setting up the “ratlines” through Syria that would bring the foreign > fighters to IS’s predecessor. The Assad regime was complicit in Zarqawi’s > actions at this time, too, not only in forming the networks that brought > the foreign volunteers to IS but the assassination of USAID worker Laurence > Foley in Amman by Shaker al-Absi, a known asset of Syrian intelligence. In > November 2002, Zarqawi returned to Iraq and took residence in Ansar > al-Islam-controlled territory. Zarqawi and his band of Ansar fighters fled > to Iran during the invasion. > > Saddam had brought thousands of foreign fighters into Iraq, many through > State-directed mosques which were connected to international Islamist > networks by ad-Douri, and these fighters, under the command of the > heavily-Salafized loyalist militia, the Fedayeen Saddam > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/a-case-study-of-the-islamic-state-as-the-saddam-regimes-afterlife-the-fedayeen-saddam/>, > were almost the only resistance against the Coalition invasion. > > The major phase of “Ba’ath”-Qaeda collaboration that *Reuters* refers to > began in the summer of 2003 when Ansar and Zarqawi were infiltrated back > into Iraq from Iran by ad-Douri. (Ansar would reassert its autonomy once > back in Iraq, until formally swearing allegiance to IS in 2014.) Ad-Douri, > who used the looted treasury of the fallen regime to direct much of the > immediate post-Saddam insurgency, assisted JTJ/AQI with access to car bombs > and other weapons, plus intelligence and operatives, notably in the three > “spectaculars”—against the Jordanian Embassy and the United Nations > headquarters in the Canal Hotel in Baghdad, and the mosque of Ayatollah > Mohammad Baqir al-Hakim in Najaf—that marked the definitive beginning of > the insurgency. > > *The Ex-Saddamists Were in Islamic State All Along* > > *Reuters* records a meeting in June 2014 where “Islamic State told > Baathists they had a choice: Join us or stand down.” Some “Ba’athists” did > join IS, and this “boosted Islamic State’s firepower and tactical prowess,” > according to *Reuters*. But again, the timeline here doesn’t make > sense—even on its own terms. IS was able to present this ultimatum to the > “Ba’athists” because IS had *already* defeated them on the battlefield. > The military prowess IS has from the infusion of intellectual property from > the fallen Saddam regime was acquired long *before* the Iraq offensive of > 2014. > > The reason IS looks different now is because its opponents have changed. > Jessica Lewis McFate, who served for eight years as an intelligence officer > in the U.S. military and worked in Iraq in 2007 and 2008, explained > <http://jihadology.net/2015/06/08/jihadology-podcast-ep-1-w-jessica-lewis-mcfate/> > : > > *The organization that I encountered … was a disrupted terrorist > organization on the run and its tactics involved IEDs to try to counter our > obviously superior ground forces. … So that’s really where we saw the group > become hyper-specialized in different ways of building different kinds of > bombs. … * > > *What we saw in 2012 and 2013 was a resurgence, first, of the same kinds > of activities that we used to see, primarily vehicle-borne IEDs, suicide > vests, and much greater numbers—demonstrating that their ability to fund > and resource operations were coming back online, but the tactics weren’t > necessarily different … They had, unfortunately, by the end of 2013 come > all the way back to early 2007 levels, so this was basically AQI before the > surge, culminating with the Abu Ghraib prison break …* > > *What we saw in the intervening period [between the departure of U.S. > troops in December 2011 and] January 2014 when ISIS began to launch attacks > into Ramadi and Fallujah … was a build-up in attacks against military > targets, but they weren’t necessarily … demonstrating better tactical > capability. What we did see, however, was changes in the operational design > … What they were going after changed. * > > *So that really has been the bigger observation that I’ve personally had > since 2013: This organization which I remember … being a disrupted > terrorist network has operational art the way that I would expect an army > to have. … Where does one get operational art? That doesn’t seem to come > naturally; seems like it should come from being trained inside of a former > military. … Does it have commanders who had been part of Iraq’s former > army—who have operational art because they gained it inside of a former > military institution? That is still my reigning hypothesis because I don’t > think it spontaneously arrives. I think it’s a legacy of former training. > But if that’s true … then AQI had it all along, but they just couldn’t use > it. * > > This is the crucial point: IS’s leaders now were all early members of AQI > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/09/22/the-islamic-state-between-al-qaeda-and-saddam-hussein/>, > which was a small organization, led by Zarqawi, whose hatred for impious > Ba’athists is well-known. Even in late 2006, when Zarqawi was dead and IS’s > predecessor was struggling, it called > <http://talismangate.blogspot.no/2006/12/would-be-caliphs-inaugural-address-to.html> > on the FREs to join only “on condition that the applicant must know, at a > minimum, three sections of the Holy Qur’an by rote and must pass an > ideological examination.” There was no “Ba’athist” takeover of IS; the FREs > rose because their military skills made them the last men standing > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/a-response-to-criticism-why-the-ex-saddamists-in-the-islamic-state-matter/> > as IS was Iraqized and its leadership was ground down under external > pressure. > > *Case Studies* > > The classic case is Samir al-Khlifawi (Haji Bakr) > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/the-riddle-of-haji-bakr/>, > an intelligence officer from an elite Saddam regime unit, who joined AQI in > 2003, meeting personally with Zarqawi in Anbar. Imprisoned through some of > IS’s worst times and competent enough to ride out the nadir in 2008-10, > al-Khlifawi became the deputy to the “caliph,” Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and > was key in IS’s recovery and its expansion into Syria. > > *Reuters* lists as examples of “Ba’athists” within IS: Ayman Sabawi > al-Ibrahim, Saddam’s nephew (son of above-mentioned Barzan); Raad Hassan, > Saddam’s cousin; Ayad Hamid al-Jumaili; Fadel al-Hiyali; and Waleed Jassem > al-Alwani (Abu Ahmad al-Alwani). Where the biographies of these figures are > known it doesn’t demonstrate them having “became radicalised in the early > years after Saddam’s ouster,” but rather men that had taken to Islamism > before the end of the Saddam regime. > > Sabawi was born in 1983, so was only twenty when the regime came down, > which is certainly old enough to have been caught in the religious > upwelling that was particularly effective over Iraqi youth. Interestingly, > when Sabawi was sanctioned > <http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:32005R1286> by > the European Union in 2005, they mentioned that one of his addresses was > Zabadani, the town west of Damascus where the Assad regime held meetings > <https://twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/675672984431017987> with elements > of the fallen Saddam regime and IS to plan terrorism against the New Iraq. > Arrested in 2005, Sabawi was broken free > <http://ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2006/12/judgement294.htm> in 2006 > and popped back up recently in a death notice > <https://twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/614040795583279104>. > > Hassan was also a young man when the regime fell, and both he and Sabawi > are more symbolic than influential in any case: IS makes a specific point > of their repentance for their past beliefs, the message being that if even > the sons of such senior Ba’athists have seen that IS is the way forward, > everyone else should, too. > > Other than being a former officer in Saddam’s army, very little is known > about al-Alwani, including whether or not he is alive. Some reports at the > time of the Iraq offensive said al-Alwani was head of the Military Council, > IS’s most important institution, but this is untrue. Adnan Ismail Najem > al-Bilawi (Abu Abdulrahman al-Bilawi) was the head of the Military Council > until several days before Mosul fell, and captured documents > <http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/world/middleeast/army-know-how-seen-as-factor-in-isis-successes.html> > show that al-Bilawi was replaced by Adnan as-Suwaydawi (Abu Ayman > al-Iraqi). Reports from British > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6317660/EXCLUSIVE-Half-of-Islamic-State-chiefs-are-wiped-out-in-air-raids-The-Sun-reveals.html> > tabloids > <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2936231/The-Kill-List-Half-ISIS-commanders-believed-dead-executioner-chief-Jihadi-John-free-commit-barbaric-slaughter.html> > in February 2015 said that al-Bilawi had been killed in late 2014—probably > in the November 7 airstrike that hit an IS gathering—but no confirmation > has ever emerged, even in Baghdad which frequently and prematurely claims > the demise of IS leaders. > > When as-Suwaydawi was killed in May 2015, he was replaced by al-Hiyali > (a.k.a. Abu Muslim al-Turkmani a.k.a. Haji Mutazz), the governor of IS-held > territory in Iraq and the caliph’s overall deputy. Al-Hiyali is a perfect > example > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/08/22/the-islamic-states-deputy-and-the-ghost-of-saddam-hussein/> > of somebody who was Islamized during Saddam’s time and was primed to join > the jihadi-Salafists before 2003. Personally close to Saddam and ad-Douri, > al-Hiyali was imprisoned during the American regency in Iraq for conducting > terrorism with IS’s predecessors and was among those who planned IS’s > revival in Iraq and expansion into Syria. > > The interesting case mentioned by *Reuters* is al-Jumaili. Described as > “the overall head of Amniya in Iraq and Syria,” “a former Saddam-era > intelligence officer from Fallujah … who joined the Sunni insurgency after > the U.S.-led invasion and now answers directly to Baghdadi,” *Reuters* is > almost certainly referring to Abu Ali al-Anbari > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/09/25/profile-of-the-islamic-states-leader-in-syria-abu-ali-al-anbari/>. > Even by IS’s standard al-Anbari is an opaque figure, and there are numerous > competing biographies of him. Whether al-Anbari is a Turkoman from Mosul or > an Arab from an important tribe in Anbar—possibly named Kazem Rachid > al-Jabouri—is unknown. Perhaps *Reuters* has found his real name. All > that really is known is that al-Anbari was a senior intelligence officer of > the Saddam regime who joined AQI when it only accepted true believers, that > he was al-Hiyali’s Syrian counterpart, and that al-Anbari oversees the > Amniyat, the overlapping security and counter-intelligence units—so well > explained by recent revelations acquired by Michael Weiss > <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/18/how-i-escaped-from-isis.html>—that > guard the caliphate and the caliph personally against threats, internal and > external. > > Also fitting the pattern of an FRE converted to Sunni militancy by the > Saddam regime who went on to use his local and military knowledge to IS’s > advantage is Muwaffaq al-Karmush > <https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20150929.aspx> > (Abu Salah), IS’s “financial minister”. Directly involved in IS’s oil > trade with the Assad regime > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/how-assad-funds-the-islamic-state/> > and allegedly killed > <http://news.sky.com/story/1603973/islamic-state-finance-chief-killed-in-airstrike> > in an American airstrike last month, al-Karmush was > <http://talisman-gate.com/2015/12/11/the-islamic-states-sovereign-wealth-fund/> > “a former *mukhabarat* (intelligence) officer during Saddam’s time … who > turned to religion in the late 1990s”. > > The intellectual property of the Saddam regime helps IS in its > international operations as well. It was an FRE, Wissam az-Zubaydi (Abu > Nabil al-Anbari), whose current state of health is a matter of some > controversy > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/07/21/demise-of-an-ex-saddamist-in-libya/>, > who was dispatched by IS to Libya to oversee the construction of IS’s > network in that country by peeling away al-Qaeda loyalists and annexing > local profit-making criminal enterprises. > > *Conclusion* > > To date the migration of FREs into IS to the last few years misses the > timeline of the evolution of JTJ/AQI, as does dating the phenomena of Iraqi > military-intelligence officials adopting Islamism or collaborating with > jihadi-Salafists to the post-2003 period. The networks by which foreign > Sunni jihadists entered Iraq predate 2003, either being formed with regime > complicity by Zarqawi in 2002, or directly formed by the regime much > earlier as part of Saddam’s alliance with the Islamists in his foreign > policy. Ad-Douri found it convenient to mobilize these foreign networks, > and supply them with resources once they reached Iraq, to frustrate the > attempt to build a democratic government in Iraq, while many individual > FREs had become Islamists during Saddam’s time and joined IS’s predecessors > in the first few years after Saddam’s fall when the group was small and > entry was highly selective. The capabilities on display from IS were thus > there all along but were held in check until 2011 by the Anglo-American > military forces stationed in Iraq. > > (IS, of course, has also benefited from the Syrian war and its old > connections with the Assad regime > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2014/03/24/assessing-the-evidence-of-collusion-between-the-assad-regime-and-the-wahhabi-jihadists-part-1/>, > without which it could not have risen so quickly. IS moved in after the > Syrian opposition had defeated the Assad regime to consolidate control in > liberated areas. Because IS was focussed on pushing the rebels out of > areas, not on Assad, and because IS’s cruelty made such good propaganda to > discredit the whole opposition, Assad allowed IS to grow > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/provocation-and-the-islamic-state-why-assad-strengthened-the-jihadists/>. > IS would eventually use Syria as a launchpad for the lightning strike into > Iraq, where IS had been busily shaping > <http://warontherocks.com/2014/11/war-interrupted-part-i-the-roots-of-the-jihadist-resurgence-in-iraq/> > the social and security environment since before the U.S. had even left so > it had de facto control in large areas before it openly took over.) > > The Saddam regime’s turn to Islamization was in all probability cynical in > origin, an effort to secure legitimacy as Saddam’s regime fought for its > life in the war it started with the theocratic regime in Iran. Tehran > constantly accused Saddam’s regime of being irreligious and internal > documents show the Saddam regime knew this propaganda was damaging its > standing with the Iraqi population. The Faith Campaign directly produced a > religious movement and operated in alliance with the “pure” Salafi Trend, > which the regime both consciously ceased repressing and lost the capacity > to restrain. Many “pure” Salafists found that their differences with the > regime were now minimal enough that they could serve in its administration, > though those at the more takfir-inclined end of the spectrum had begun a > low-level insurgency, with bombing attacks in Baghdad and elsewhere, by > 1999. The Faith Campaign’s trapdoor—people finding they could take Salafism > without Saddamism—was especially acute in the security services that were > sent to infiltrate and guide the mosques and religious brotherhoods that > the Saddam regime now so publicly supported. > > The Faith Campaign’s ecumenical intent also wholly backfired, causing a > final breakdown of State-Shi’i relations and heightening sectarianism to > levels previously unrecorded. The Campaign’s empowerment of mid-level > clerics wholly transformed Iraqi society, notably in the Sunni areas, which > were also altered by the tribes being tasked with manning the > ad-Douri-directed cross-border networks that were set up to evade the > sanctions. The turn to religion for solace > <https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/10/18/saddam-sanctions-and-religious-solace-in-iraq/> > during the devastating sanctions-plus-Saddam period reinforced many of > these trends. > > To put it simply, the Saddam regime’s reputation for keeping a lid on > religious militancy and sectarianism is exactly wrong; by commission and > omission it brought both things to levels Iraq has scarcely ever known in > its history. The U.S. prisons in Iraq turned into little more than > factories for IS’s predecessor to recruit and the catch-and-release policy > was a dismal failure. Disbanding the army should also have been done > differently. 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