The capitalists have and do steal constantly from poor countries, in
Africa/Sth America the big mining companies are quite happy to pay workers
as little as $1 a day, no one disputes the fact that a fair return is
warranted for investment/risk taking et al, however there is a limit. All
we can hope for is that these big multinationals (who of course pay little
or no tax) and their supporters of unfettered rampant capitalism, may your
moral leprosy be made flesh.

On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:

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> disagree with capitalism, my condolences for your handicap of having half a
> brain or less.
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> Randy
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> Who always laughs at the idea that the West became rich by stealing from
> the poor countries.  Remember the quote from Willie Sutton regarding the
> reason he robbed banks..
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> http://www.aei.org/publication/poor-nations-are-poor-because-of-the-lack-of-capitalism-not-because-of-it/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=pethokoukispoornations
> Poor nations are poor because of the lack of capitalism, not because of it
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> Why are the wealthiest nations so much richer than the poorest nations?  
> Harvard’s
> Ricardo Hausmann
> <http://growthlab.cid.harvard.edu/news/what-should-we-do-about-inequality> 
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> what’s behind global inequality and poverty:
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> So there are these enormous differences in productivity that make the
> productive places rich and the unproductive places poor. The poor people
> are not being exploited. They’re being excluded from the higher
> productivity activities. It’s not that the capitalists are taking a very
> large share of what they produce. It’s just that they produce very little
> in the first place. …
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> *Poor places are characterized by the absence of capitalist firms and by
> self-employment, employment: these are small peasants and farmers or owners
> of small shop. In these settings, there are no wages, there’s no employment
> relationship. There are no pensions. There is no unemployment insurance.
> The trappings of a capitalist labor market do not exist.*
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> While Marx thought that capitalism, as a form of organizing production,
> would take over the world, poor countries and regions are characterized by
> the absence of capitalism, of capitalist forms of production. So the
> question we should ask ourselves is why did capitalism not succeed in these
> regions, leaving huge differences in productivity between the places where
> it succeeded and the places where it did not? The answer we have found is
> that modern capitalist production requires the simultaneous access to many
> different inputs.
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> “Inputs” can mean many different kinds of networks: water, electricity,
> urban transport, roads, the educational system, banking, Internet. I would
> also include economic freedom as a pretty important input, the ability to
> take risks and innovate without government preemptively quashing you or
> taking all your profits. Not exactly sure the degree to which the other
> stuff matters with that political economic input.
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> As Deirdre McCloskey
> <http://deirdremccloskey.org/docs/pdf/McCloskey_IdeasEnrichedTheWorld.pdf>
> elegantly states it, “The modern world was made by a slow-motion revolution
> in ethical convictions about virtues and vices, in particular by a much
> higher level than in earlier times of toleration for trade-tested progress
> — letting people make mutually advantageous deals, and even admiring them
> for doing so, and especially admiring them when, Steve-Jobs-like, they
> imagine betterments.”
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> But anyway, Hausmann adds, “you don’t connect people because they’re poor
> and because they’re not connected, they’re unproductive and hence poor.”
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> So how to deal with that fixed costs issue and break that poverty cycle?
> First, “some technological innovations might reduce those fixed costs, and
> if the fixed cost is reduced, more people can be included.” Second, “have a
> policy that shares the fixed cost.” I guess this would mean something like
> government intervention to, say, make sure everyone has Internet access.
> Sometimes, however, that intervention might mean getting government out of
> the way. For instance
> <http://www.technologyreview.com/news/542161/facebooks-internet-drone-team-is-collaborating-with-googles-stratospheric-balloons/>
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> Facebook and Google compete intensely for your time online and for the ad
> dollars of corporations. But now the two companies are collaborating on
> efforts to use balloons and drone aircraft to expand Internet access to the
> four billion people that don’t have it. Documents filed with the U.S.
> Federal Communications Commission show that both companies are pushing for
> international law to be modified to make it easier to use aircraft around
> 20 kilometers above the earth, in the stratosphere, to provide Internet
> access.
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