Brian, you make exactly the point that I mentioned innumerable times, and that drives me to distraction, the bloody hypocrisy of, mainly but not all conservative people, they are quite ready to see the speck in their brother's eye, whilst ignoring the beam in their own!!
Keith, you call me irrational, yet you equate what little social conscience I possess with communism, talk about irrationality mate! as for Clint him being the face of the NRA for years, that alone earns him the title of feeble minded, advocating that people who are too dumb/illiterate/inarticulate can use firearms rather than the spoken word. You know very well that your (collective) mindset is shoot first and ask questions later, as for Trump, you can just imagine what a bordello the White House would become with such a megalomaniac, if I may paraphrase Al Gore, this may be an inconvenient truth, must you must need accept it. As far as I hear, in fact the Obama administration has created a lot of jobs in the last few years, after the disaster that your good mates at Lehmann bros. et al caused by their rampant greed, in which millions lost their houses-----that is something you really can be proud of. On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > I suppose I always equated "Conservative" with good old Christian values > and if you are running around with lots of wimmen and fathering lots of > kids in and out of wedlock ... seems against that idea ... I think he's ike > many people, he picks and chooses what works for his PERSONAL agenda ... > remember why he ran for Mayor of Carmel... totally selfish reasons and when > he got what he wanted didn't run again!!! > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Although I state no opinion on Eastwood's personal life, (other than the >> observation that he sure has fathered a whole mess of youngun's!) I don't >> get how one's personal life is a testament to whether the individual holds >> conservative versus communist/socialist/wacko/elitist/Progressive >> viewpoints. >> >> Look at Crisco Moore: A fat slovenly blob who lives a life of lavish >> indulgence yet promotes a austere, barren "Do Without" mindset; or AlGore, >> who promotes a "Green" lifestyle, yet leaves a very large carbon >> footprint..... >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Although I like Clint as an actor and a director, his personal life >>> seems not very conservative to me!! >>> >>> Eastwood, age twenty-three, married Maggie Johnson on December 19, 1953, >>> six months after they met on a blind date >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_date>.[1] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Munn19-1> >>> However, >>> the marriage would not prove altogether smooth, with Eastwood commenting >>> that he had married too early.[2] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-2> >>> A >>> decade later, during a trial separation >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_separation> from Johnson, an >>> affair Eastwood engaged in with dancer and stuntwoman Roxanne Tunis (who >>> was also married yet separated) produced his first child, Kimber Eastwood >>> (born Kimber Tunis; June 17, 1964),[3] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-McG139-3> >>> [4] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-independent2-4> >>> whose >>> existence was kept secret from the public until July 1989, when the >>> *National >>> Enquirer <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Enquirer>* revealed >>> her identity.[5] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-McG455-5> >>> After >>> a reconciliation, he and Johnson had two children together: Kyle >>> Eastwood <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Eastwood> (born May 19, >>> 1968) and Alison Eastwood >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Eastwood> (born May 22, 1972), >>> though he was absent from both births.[6] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-McG484-6> >>> Johnson >>> filed for legal separation >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_separation> in 1978, after another >>> long period of estrangement, but did not officially divorce Eastwood until >>> May 1984,[7] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Eliot176-7> >>> [8] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Eliot6-8> >>> receiving >>> a reported cash settlement of $25 million.[9] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-McG348-9> >>> >>> Eastwood's relationship with actress Sondra Locke >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sondra_Locke> began in the autumn of >>> 1975 while filming *The Outlaw Josey Wales >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outlaw_Josey_Wales>*. They lived >>> together, part-time, for nearly fourteen years, although Locke remained >>> married to her gay husband, Gordon Anderson.[10] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-10> >>> [11] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-annonline.com-11> >>> Eastwood >>> befriended Locke's husband and purchased a house on Crescent Heights >>> Boulevard in West Hollywood >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Hollywood> for Anderson and his >>> male companion.[4] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-independent2-4> >>> In >>> the late 1970s, Locke underwent two abortions and a tubal ligation >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubal_ligation>,[12] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-AborTub-12> >>> later >>> stating it was a "mutual decision" to have the procedures.[13] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Eliot193-13> >>> Eastwood >>> and Locke went on to star in five more films together: *The Gauntlet >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gauntlet_(film)>*, *Every Which Way >>> But Loose <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Which_Way_but_Loose_(film)>* >>> , *Bronco Billy <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronco_Billy>*, *Any >>> Which Way You Can <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Any_Which_Way_You_Can>*, >>> and *Sudden Impact <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_Impact>*. By >>> the late eighties, their relationship was on the decline. When Eastwood >>> learned that Locke was attempting to evict his live-in, college-aged son, >>> Kyle, and was discussing a palimony suit with a divorce lawyer, Eastwood >>> tried to end the relationship and asked Locke to vacate his home on April >>> 3, 1989.[14] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-14> >>> She >>> stalled, so on April 10, 1989, while Locke was away directing the film >>> *Impulse >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impulse_(1990_film)>*, Eastwood had the >>> locks changed on their Bel-Air home and ordered her possessions to be boxed >>> and put in storage.[15] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-McG441-15> >>> Locke >>> filed a palimony <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palimony> suit against >>> Eastwood, and later sued him a second time for fraud, alleging that a >>> directing pact he set up for her at Warner Bros. >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros.> in exchange for dropping >>> the first lawsuit was a sham.[16] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-FraudSue-16> >>> [17] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-17> >>> In >>> 1996, minutes before a jury was to render a verdict in Locke's favor, >>> Eastwood agreed to settle for an undisclosed amount.[18] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Settle-18> >>> >>> During the last three years of his increasingly distant relationship >>> with Locke, Eastwood quietly fathered two children with flight attendant >>> Jacelyn Reeves:[19] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-independent-19> >>> a >>> son Scott Eastwood <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Eastwood> (born >>> Scott Reeves; March 21, 1986)[20] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Eliot226-20>and >>> daughter Kathryn Eastwood (born Kathryn Reeves; February 2, 1988).[8] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Eliot6-8> >>> The >>> birth certificates for both children stated "Father declined."[21] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Eliot252-21> >>> The >>> affair was first reported in the *Star >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_(magazine)>* tabloid in 1990,[22] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-22> >>> [23] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-McG370-23> >>> but >>> went unmentioned by mainstream news sources for more than a decade.[24] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-24> >>> >>> In 1990, Eastwood moved in with actress Frances Fisher >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Fisher>, whom he had met on the >>> set of *Pink Cadillac >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Cadillac_(film)>* in late 1988.[25] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-McG434-25> >>> They >>> co-starred in *Unforgiven <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgiven>*, >>> and had a daughter, Francesca Eastwood >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesca_Eastwood> (born Francesca >>> Fisher-Eastwood; August 7, 1993).[26] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Eliot289-26> >>> Eastwood >>> and Fisher ended their relationship in early 1995,[27] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-McG501-27> >>> but >>> remain friends and later worked together in *True Crime >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Crime_(1999_film)>*. >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Clint_and_Dina_Eastwood.jpg> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Clint_and_Dina_Eastwood.jpg> >>> Eastwood with his (now former) wifeDina >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dina_Eastwood> in 2007 >>> >>> Eastwood subsequently started dating Dina Ruiz >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dina_Eastwood>, a television news anchor >>> thirty-five years his junior, whom he had first met when she interviewed >>> him in 1993.[26] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-Eliot289-26> >>> They >>> married on March 31, 1996, when Eastwood surprised her with a private >>> ceremony at a home on the Shadow Creek Golf Course >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Creek_Golf_Course> in Las Vegas. >>> [28] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-28> >>> The >>> couple has one daughter, Morgan Eastwood (born December 12, 1996).[29] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-McG328-29> >>> >>> In August 2013, Dina Eastwood announced that she and her husband had >>> been living separately for an undisclosed length of time.[30] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-30> >>> On >>> October 23, 2013, Dina filed for divorce after she withdrew her request of >>> a separation citing irreconcilable differences >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreconcilable_differences>. She asked >>> for full custody of their 16-year-old daughter, Morgan, as well as spousal >>> support.[31] >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Clint_Eastwood#cite_note-31> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Good Morning Pluto! >>>> >>>> What specifically has Eastwood said that would make you think he is >>>> suffering from Dementia? >>>> >>>> With all due respect, this is a great example of why I term you, and >>>> other Progressive Liberals the "Kinder, Gentler, More Tolerant, More >>>> Enlightened" crew, but are really none of the aforementioned. Again, with >>>> respect, you demonstrate that you're just not that well informed.....No >>>> rational, informed person could make such a statement! The same goes for >>>> inferring that Eastwood, or any other conservative are not capable of >>>> governing the United States government, especially after what we've seen >>>> from the left for the last eight years. Progressive politics has damn near >>>> ruined this Nation! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 7:00 PM, pluto of brougham < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> But then again, he is in his dotage and obviously the poor bugger >>>>> suffers from terminal dementia, so sad to see the disintegration of a once >>>>> competent and entertaining actor. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 3:23 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/clint-eastwood-praises-trump/2015/12/25/id/707110/?ns_mail_uid=1781446&ns_mail_job=1647568_12262015&s=al&dkt_nbr=khz1secj >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Eastwood Praises Trump, Carson: 'Really Good People' >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Description: Image: Clint Eastwood Praises Trump, Carson: >>>>>> 'Really Good People'] >>>>>> >>>>>> By Todd Beamon | Friday, 25 Dec 2015 03:58 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> Hollywood icon Clint Eastwood praised Republican presidential >>>>>> candidates Donald Trump and Ben Carson — saying that either "would be >>>>>> better than what we got." >>>>>> >>>>>> Eastwood, 85, a longtime Republican, has often slammed President >>>>>> Barack Obama throughout his time in the White House — and that sentiment >>>>>> came out Thursday in an interview on "Extra." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "I think there’s quite a few of them who are really good people" in >>>>>> the 2016 Republican field," Eastwood told co-host Mario Lopez. >>>>>> >>>>>> The interview was reported by* Breitbart News.* >>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/24/clint-eastwood-praises-trump-carson-anyone-of-them-would-be-better-than-what-we-got/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social> >>>>>> >>>>>> Eastwood praised Trump as someone who might possess the qualities >>>>>> that voters want in a candidate. >>>>>> >>>>>> "People are looking for somebody who is outspoken and who isn’t >>>>>> afraid," he said. 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