Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11
Police officers outside a Walmart in Las Vegas after a shooting last year involving suspects with antigovernment and neo-Nazi views. Since Sept. 11, 2001, 48 people in the United States have been killed by non-Muslim extremists, compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to the research center New America. CreditSteve Marcus/Reuters Advertisement Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-1> Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-1>Share This Page - Email - Share - Tweet - Save - More Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-1> WASHINGTON — In the 14 years since Al Qaeda <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/a/al_qaeda/index.html?inline=nyt-org> carried out attacks on New York and the Pentagon, extremists have regularly executed smaller lethal assaults in the United States, explaining their motives in online manifestoes or social media rants. But the breakdown of extremist ideologies behind those attacks may come as a surprise. Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, including the recent mass killing in Charleston, S.C., compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count <http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks.html> by New America, a Washington research center. The slaying of nine African-Americans in a Charleston church last week, with an avowed white supremacist charged with their murders, was a particularly savage case. But it is only the latest in a string of lethal attacks by people espousing racial hatred, hostility to government and theories such as those of the “sovereign citizen” movement, which denies the legitimacy of most statutory law. The assaults have taken the lives of police officers, members of racial or religious minorities and random civilians. Non-Muslim extremists have carried out 19 such attacks since Sept. 11, according to the latest count, compiled by David Sterman, a New America program associate, and overseen by Peter Bergen, a terrorism expert. By comparison, seven lethal attacks by Islamic militants have taken place in the same period. If such numbers are new to the public, they are familiar to police officers. A survey to be published this week asked 382 police and sheriff’s departments nationwide to rank the three biggest threats from violent extremism in their jurisdiction. About 74 percent listed antigovernment violence, while 39 percent listed “Al Qaeda <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/a/al_qaeda/index.html?inline=nyt-org>-inspired” violence, according to the researchers, Charles Kurzman of the University of North Carolina and David Schanzer of Duke University. Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-3>Homegrown Terrorism In the United States since Sept. 11, terrorist attacks by antigovernment, racist and other nonjihadist extremists have killed nearly twice as many people as those by Islamic jihadists. deaths 50 40 30 20 10 0 Jihadists Nonjihadist extremists 2002 2004 2006 2008 2010 2012 2015 Fort Hood shooting – Boston Marathon bombing | Charleston shooting – Source: New America Foundation Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-3>RELATED COVERAGE - [image: A photo from a white supremacist website showing Dylann Roof, the suspect in the Charleston, S.C., church shooting.] Federal Hate Crime Charges Likely in South Carolina Church ShootingJUNE 24, 2015 <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/campaign-to-remove-confederate-symbols-from-public-lands-builds.html> - [image: An honor guard carried the coffin of State Senator Clementa C. Pinckney, a shooting victim, in Columbia, S.C., on Wednesday.] Charleston Families Hope Words Endure Past ShootingJUNE 24, 2015 <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/charleston-families-hope-words-endure-past-shooting.html> - [image: State flags line the Capitol subway tracks in Washington.] Calls to Cut Ties to Symbols of the SouthJUNE 23, 2015 <http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/23/us/Calls-to-Cut-Ties-to-Symbols-of-the-South.html> - [image: The Council of Conservative Citizens was most visibly active in South Carolina during a fierce debate in 2000 over flying the Confederate battle flag on the grounds of the State House in Columbia, picketing in support of continuing to display the emblem.] Council of Conservative Citizens Promotes White Primacy, and G.O.P. TiesJUNE 22, 2015 <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/23/us/politics/views-on-race-and-gop-ties-define-group-council-of-conservative-citizens.html> - [image: Earl Holt III, president of the Council of Conservative Citizens, in a 2013 image taken from the council's website.] White Supremacist Who Influenced Charleston Suspect Donated to 2016 G.O.P. CampaignsJUNE 22, 2015 <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/22/us/campaign-donations-linked-to-white-supremacist.html> - [image: A photo from a white supremacist website showing Dylann Roof, the suspect in the Charleston, S.C., church shooting.] Dylann Roof Photos and a Manifesto Are Posted on WebsiteJUNE 20, 2015 <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/us/dylann-storm-roof-photos-website-charleston-church-shooting.html> - [image: A scene from a vigil at Morris Brown African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C., for the victims.] Many Ask, Why Not Call Church Shooting Terrorism?JUNE 18, 2015 <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-shooting-terrorism-or-hate-crime.html> “Law enforcement agencies around the country have told us the threat from Muslim extremists is not as great as the threat from right-wing extremists,” said Dr. Kurzman, whose study is to be published by the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security and the Police Executive Research Forum. John G. Horgan, who studies terrorism at the University of Massachusetts, Lowell, said the mismatch between public perceptions and actual cases had become steadily more obvious to scholars. “There’s an acceptance now of the idea that the threat from jihadi terrorism in the United States has been overblown,” Dr. Horgan said. “And there’s a belief that the threat of right-wing, antigovernment violence has been underestimated.” Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-4>RELATED IN OPINION <http://www.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.html> - Op-Ed Contributors: White Supremacists Without BordersJUNE 22, 2015 <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/22/opinion/white-supremacists-without-borders.html> - Room for Debate: Homegrown HateJUNE 24, 2015 <http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/06/24/charleston-and-the-threat-of-homegrown-hate-groups> Counting terrorism cases is a subjective enterprise, relying on shifting definitions and judgment calls. If terrorism is defined as ideological violence, for instance, should an attacker who has merely ranted about religion, politics or race be considered a terrorist? A man in Chapel Hill, N.C., who was charged with fatally shooting three young Muslim neighbors had posted angry critiques of religion, but he also had a history of outbursts over parking issues. (New America does not include this attack in its count.) Advertisement Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-5> Likewise, what about mass killings in which no ideological motive is evident, such as those at a Colorado movie theater and a Connecticut elementary school in 2012? The criteria used by New America and most other research groups exclude such attacks, which have cost more lives than those clearly tied to ideology. Some killings by non-Muslims that most experts would categorize as terrorism have drawn only fleeting news media coverage, never jelling in the public memory. But to revisit some of the episodes is to wonder why. In 2012, a neo-Nazi named Wade Michael Page entered a Sikh temple in Wisconsin and opened fire, killing six people and seriously wounding three others. Mr. Page, who died at the scene, was a member of a white supremacist group called the Northern Hammerskins. In another case, in June 2014, Jerad and Amanda Miller, a married couple with radical antigovernment views, entered a Las Vegas pizza restaurant and fatally shot two police officers who were eating lunch. On the bodies, they left a swastika, a flag inscribed with the slogan “Don’t tread on me” and a note saying, “This is the start of the revolution.” Then they killed a third person in a nearby Walmart. And, as in the case of jihadist plots, there have been sobering close calls. In November 2014 in Austin, Tex., a man named Larry McQuilliams fired more than 100 rounds at government buildings that included the Police Headquarters and the Mexican Consulate. Remarkably, his shooting spree hit no one, and he was killed by an officer before he could try to detonate propane cylinders he drove to the scene. Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-7>RECENT COMMENTS Concerned citizen June 25, 2015 The figures are too small to come to any statistically valid conclusion like the one stated. 911 dwarfs all the murders by right wing... Mary Kay Klassen June 25, 2015 I really don't think that we should separate gun violence into tidy pockets. We have the daily gun violence in most major cities. We have... bern June 25, 2015 But, have they caught up with 9/11? And, just wait! - SEE ALL COMMENTS Some Muslim advocates complain that when the perpetrator of an attack is not Muslim, news media commentators quickly focus on the question of mental illness. “With non-Muslims, the media bends over backward to identify some psychological traits that may have pushed them over the edge,” said Abdul Cader Asmal, a retired physician and a longtime spokesman for Muslims in Boston. “Whereas if it’s a Muslim, the assumption is that they must have done it because of their religion.” On several occasions since President Obama took office, efforts by government agencies to conduct research on right-wing extremism have run into resistance from Republicans, who suspected an attempt to smear conservatives. A 2009 report by the Department of Homeland Security <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/h/homeland_security_department/index.html?inline=nyt-org>, which warned that an ailing economy and the election of the first black president might prompt a violent reaction from white supremacists, was withdrawn in the face of conservative criticism. Its main author, Daryl Johnson, later accused the department of “gutting” its staffing for such research. William Braniff, the executive director of the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism at the University of Maryland, said the outsize fear of jihadist violence reflected memories of Sept. 11, the daunting scale of sectarian conflict overseas and wariness of a strain of Islam that seems alien to many Americans. Advertisement Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-9> Advertisement Continue reading the main story <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html#story-continues-9> “We understand white supremacists,” he said. “We don’t really feel like we understand Al Qaeda, which seems too complex and foreign to grasp.” The contentious question of biased perceptions of terrorist threats dates back at least two decades, to the truck bombing that tore apart the federal building in Oklahoma City in April 1995. Some early news media speculation about the attack assumed that it had been carried out by Muslim militants. The arrest of Timothy J. McVeigh, an antigovernment extremist, quickly put an end to such theories. The bombing, which killed 168 people, including 19 children, remains the second-deadliest terrorist attack in American history, though its toll was dwarfed by the roughly 3,000 killed on Sept 11. “If there’s one lesson we seem to have forgotten 20 years after Oklahoma City, it’s that extremist violence comes in all shapes and sizes,” said Dr. Horgan, the University of Massachusetts scholar. “And very often, it comes from someplace you’re least suspecting.” On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 1:21:39 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Actually, Democrats don’t think. > > B > > *Democrats think Christians bigger threat than Muslims* > > Posted By *Bob Unruh* On 12/28/2015 > > > > > > A Muslim man caught on camera going on a bloody attack in London, England. > > *Editor’s Note:** This is another in a series of reports on the polling > by Clout Research, <http://cloutpolitical.com/> a national opinion research > firm in Columbus, Ohio, for WND.com.* > > A new poll reveals that 45 percent of the Democrats who responded believe > that Christians are a greater threat to America than Muslims. > > No shock that 72 percent of atheists agree. > > But the surprise is that 18 percent of those who consider themselves ” > very conservative” agree. > > As do 29 percent of Protestants. > > And 23 percent of Catholics. > > Interestingly, the sample of Muslims was very small, but 100 percent said > it is Muslims who are the greater danger. > > The results are from a new WND/Clout poll by Clout Research, > <http://cloutpolitical.com/> a national opinion research firm in > Columbus, Ohio. The telephone survey of registered voters was taken Dec. > 18-27, except for the holiday, and has a margin of error of plus or minus > 3.35 percentage points. > > *Trust the government? Maybe you shouldn’t. Read the details in “Lies the > Government Told You,” by Judge Andrew Napolitano. > <http://superstore.wnd.com/books/books-by-subject/Lies-the-Government-Told-You-Myth-Power-and-Deception-in-American-History-Hardcover?promocode=MSTORY>* > > Poll chief Fritz Wenzel said, “A surprising finding in the survey shows > that one in three respondents said they believe Christians pose a greater > threat to America than do Muslims. Among Democrats, 45 percent said > Christians are more dangerous than are Muslims, while 36 percent of > political independents said the same. Among Republicans, 20 percent said > Christians are the greater threat.” > > He said the opinions “may well have to do with the Colorado Springs > shootings at the Planned Parenthood office there that resulted in three > deaths. That shooting was carried out by a deranged man who opposed > abortion. His religious affiliation is unclear, but many may have > extrapolated that he must be a Christian conservative. This conclusion is > bolstered by the fact that women were more likely than men to name > Christians as a bigger threat than Muslims – but that said, still 63 > percent of all women still said Muslims are the greater threat.” > > His analysis continued, “The more conservative the respondent, the more > likely they were to identify Muslims as the greater threat to America.” > > The survey included very few Muslims, but they all said Muslims were the > greater threat to the country. Among Protestants, 29 percent said > Christians were the greater threat, while 72 percent of Atheists said > Christians were a greater threat, he noted. > > “A majority of blacks said Christians were the greater threat, but all > other races said Muslims were the greatest threat to America,” he said. > > The question asked was simple: “Which do you believe pose the greatest > threat to America – Muslims or Christians?” > > Fifty-five percent of Democrats, 80 percent of the GOP and 64 percent of > the independents identified Muslims. > > Among those who identify themselves as liberal, it was approaching 50 > percent that believe Christians are the greater danger. > > Among whites, 67 percent identified Muslims, among Hispanics, 90 percent > identified Muslims and among Asians, 82 percent identified Muslims. It was > blacks, who by a 55-45 majority, said Christians are a bigger threat. > > *Trust the government? Maybe you shouldn’t. 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