Just another way of getting around standing and jurisdiction..... --- just another way the police commit robbery.
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 2:27:05 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > I am quite familiar with these *in rem* and *quasi in rem* > seizures.....It's Admiralty Law, and it should be unconstitutional.....(In > rem forfeitures are morally, ethically, and in my opinon legally!) wrong! > > Just another way of getting around standing and jurisdiction..... > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:34 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> they are thieves. >> >> Highway Robbery: Tennessee Police Are Seizing Cash ... >> <http://jonathanturley.org/2012/05/24/highway-robbery-tennessee-police-are-seizing-cash-from-out-of-state-visitors-in-policy-called-policing-for-profit/> >> jonathanturley.org/.../highway-robbery-*tennessee*-police-are-seizing- >> *cash*... >> <https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#> >> >> - >> >> <http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2DC0fDJ6dO4J:jonathanturley.org/2012/05/24/highway-robbery-tennessee-police-are-seizing-cash-from-out-of-state-visitors-in-policy-called-policing-for-profit/+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us> >> - >> >> <https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=643&q=related:jonathanturley.org/2012/05/24/highway-robbery-tennessee-police-are-seizing-cash-from-out-of-state-visitors-in-policy-called-policing-for-profit/+TN+I-40+cash+confiscation&tbo=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqqafPlL7KAhVY2WMKHSjBAIQQHwguMAI> >> >> May 24, 2012 - It appears that anyone visiting Tennessee this summer >> should leave their cash at home. ... The officer demanded the money and >> said that he wasconfiscating the money on suspicion of drug ... 1, May >> 24, 2012 at 8:40 am. >> Don't drive on Tennessee I-40 unless you want to be accused >> <http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/16/dont-drive-on-tennessees-i-40-unless-you-want-to-be-accused-of-drug-trafficking-video/> >> www.addictinginfo.org/.../dont-drive-on-*tennessee*s-i-*40* >> -unless-you-wan... >> <https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#> >> >> - >> >> <http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:t6P1nYX0SxkJ:www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/16/dont-drive-on-tennessees-i-40-unless-you-want-to-be-accused-of-drug-trafficking-video/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us> >> - >> >> <https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=643&q=related:www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/16/dont-drive-on-tennessees-i-40-unless-you-want-to-be-accused-of-drug-trafficking-video/+TN+I-40+cash+confiscation&tbo=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqqafPlL7KAhVY2WMKHSjBAIQQHwg1MAM> >> >> Feb 16, 2013 - For some police agencies in Tennessee, the drug war gives >> cops a reason to legally steal from innocent drivers under the pretense >> that cash or ... >> Tennessee Law Enforcement Commiting Highway Robbery ... >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO_UWxkMsrk> >> [image: Video for TN I-40 cash confiscation]▶ 7:20 >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO_UWxkMsrk> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO_UWxkMsrk >> May 18, 2011 - Uploaded by NaziPolice >> "What's wrong with having a large amount of cash? ... In fact,Interstate >> 40 has become a major profit ... >> >> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:45:19 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://dailysignal.com/2016/01/21/how-the-tsa-and-drug-enforcement-administration-joined-forces-to-seize-cash-at-airports/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=morningbell&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRovvajLZKXonjHpfsX56uUoW6%2B2lMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4ASMRkMa%2BTFAwTG5toziV8R7jHKM1t0sEQWBHm >>> >>> >>> >>> How the TSA and Drug Enforcement Administration Joined Forces to Seize >>> Cash at Airports >>> >>> Melissa Quinn / January 21, 2016 >>> >>> A new report from a government watchdog criticized the Drug Enforcement >>> Administration for working with a Transportation Security Administration >>> security screener to flag bags containing large sums of cash, which the >>> drug agency could then take. >>> >>> According <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/f160107b.pdf> to the >>> investigation from the Department of Justice’s Inspector General released >>> earlier this month, the TSA agent was registered with the DEA as a paid >>> confidential source. >>> >>> The inspector general’s report said that the TSA security screener >>> working with the DEA to identify luggage with large sums of cash was >>> promised a reward based on the amount of money seized. >>> >>> Though the TSA agent in question never provided the drug agency with any >>> information, the screener “could have violated individuals’ protection >>> against unreasonable searches and seizures if it led to a subsequent DEA >>> enforcement action,” the government watchdog warned. >>> >>> For experts on civil asset forfeiture, the findings from the inspector >>> general underscore the “powerful” incentives law enforcement agents have to >>> seize property and cash from people under civil forfeiture laws, even if >>> they don’t charge them with a crime. >>> >>> Those who back the laws, which includes many law enforcement agents and >>> prosecutors, say civil forfeiture helps curb money laundering and drug >>> trafficking. >>> >>> “[The DEA is] putting a bounty on tips that lead to cash seizures, and >>> that incentivizes, in this case, the TSA’s confidential information to do >>> just that—to search any and all bags to get the cash they’re looking for to >>> get the tip, and get paid,” Jason Snead, a policy analyst at The Heritage >>> Foundation who studies civil forfeiture, told The Daily Signal. He >>> continued: >>> >>> *There’s this area of [civil forfeiture] where you have these reduced >>> protections against search and seizures that are being taken advantage of >>> by the DEA.* >>> >>> Under little-known civil asset forfeiture laws, law enforcement agencies >>> like the DEA have the power to seize cash and property if agents suspect >>> it’s connected to a crime. Over the last year, numerous cases have arisen >>> involving innocent Americans who had their property seized by the drug >>> agency at transportation hubs. >>> >>> In May, for example, DEA agents seized >>> <http://dailysignal.com/2015/06/09/after-dea-takes-life-savings-22-year-old-fights-for-justice/> >>> >>> $16,000 from 22-year-old Joseph Rivers at a train stop in Albuquerque, N.M. >>> >>> Rivers was traveling on Amtrak from Michigan to Los Angeles, where he >>> had plans to pursue a career as a music producer. The $16,000, he told The >>> Daily Signal in June, was the culmination of years of savings and money >>> from his mother and other family members. >>> >>> Similarly, DEA agents took >>> <http://www.abqjournal.com/580107/news/dea-agents-seize-16000-from-aspiring-music-video-producer.html> >>> >>> $11,000 in cash from 24-year-old Charles Clarke at the Cincinnati/Northern >>> Kentucky International Airport in June. >>> >>> State and federal law enforcement seized the money before Clarke boarded >>> a plane bound for Florida and alleged it was tied to drugs. However, Clarke >>> told The Daily Signal at the time that the money was the result of five >>> years worth of saving from various jobs, financial aid, gifts from family >>> members and benefits his mother received. >>> >>> Clarke is still fighting the government in court to get his money back. >>> >>> In both cases, neither Rivers nor Clarke were charged with crimes. The >>> DEA, in affidavits filed relating to the two cases, said their money was >>> seized because the drug agency believed the cash was tied to drugs. >>> >>> Transportation facilities appear to be an area of focus for the DEA, and >>> specifically its task force groups, which work to stop drug trafficking at >>> transportation hubs using “cold consent encounters.” >>> >>> Cold consent encounters occur either when an agent approaches an >>> individual randomly or an agent approaches an individual when he or she >>> believes the person is exhibiting behavior indicative of drug trafficking, >>> the inspector general said. >>> >>> Focusing on transportation hubs, Snead said, is purely a “numbers game.” >>> >>> “They have a concentrated area with lots of people going back and forth, >>> and there’s just simply more opportunities per square mile to seize cash >>> than anywhere else. In fact, one of the things we’ve seen in the roadside >>> seizures or in the case of Joseph Rivers, one of the motivating factors for >>> that is the fact that he was traveling to a known drug hot spot, which is >>> any city in the U.S.,” Snead said. He continued: >>> >>> *If you’re at an airport and the flight happens to be going to Los >>> Angeles or Miami, then right off the bat you’ve got the extenuating factor >>> that they can put down in their official report.* >>> >>> From 2009 to 2013, the DEA seized $163 million from 4,138 cash seizures, >>> according <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2015/e153.pdf#page=1> to a >>> January 2015 report from the Justice Department Inspector General. >>> >>> Of those cash seizures, 21 percent were contested, and in 41 percent of >>> those contested cases, all or part of the seized money was returned, >>> totaling $8.3 million, the Justice Department Inspector General found. >>> >>> “People carry significant amounts of cash for innocent reasons and the >>> laws are such that it’s easy to seize cash on the pretense it’s drug >>> money,” Snead said. “There’s an allure that you can’t say no to.” >>> >>> Local, state and federal law enforcement agencies have faced mounting >>> criticism because of their use of civil forfeiture to seize cash and >>> property. >>> >>> Those deciding to fight the government for their seized property must >>> appear in court—often multiple times—to prove they either didn’t consent to >>> the criminal activity or the property wasn’t connected to criminal >>> activity, a notion that experts say flips the presumption of innocence on >>> its head. >>> >>> At the heart of the argument made by civil forfeiture opponents >>> surrounding why civil forfeiture laws should be reformed, or abolished >>> completely for some, lies what experts say is a perverse profit incentive >>> the tool creates. >>> >>> In many states and at the federal level, law enforcement agencies can >>> keep up to 100 percent of the proceeds from civil forfeiture, a figure that >>> gives agencies a financial incentive to seize cash and property. >>> >>> This profit incentive, Snead said, speaks to why the DEA was willing to >>> work with a TSA security screening agents to notify them of cash seizures. >>> >>> “As the [inspector general] report noted, paying an official of the U.S. >>> government to do this service violated the DEA’s own internal policy, and I >>> think that alone speaks to the powerful incentives inherent to forfeiture,” >>> Snead said. “It’s so powerful that DEA officers are willing at the very >>> least to skirt the line, if not completely violate their own internal >>> policies to secure cash forfeitures.” >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __._,_.___ >>> ------------------------------ >>> Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> Visit Your Group >>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMzQ2MWxwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NTM0ODM4ODM-> >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: Yahoo! 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