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On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:05 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > Islamists who do not meld into our society and accept our values should > be excluded as they cause division among the existing citizens. > --- > the same can be said of jews. > > They bring Shira law with them which is incompatable with Western Law > --- > and jews bring judaic law that is incompatable with western law. > > .......just as we would take our beliefs in Western Law to an Islamic > Country who inturn do not allow westerners to change their systems but the > ACLU, with CAIR Islamic money, is trying to change ours and introduce bits > and piece of Shira into our system a little at a time in an attempt to > erode our systems. > --- > just as the JDL and ACLU have done. > > the bad news! > the abrahamics can procreate faster than they can kill each other into > extinction. > > On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 1:15:45 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Even Thomas Jefferson who favored migration into the Country said we had >> to be careful about who we did allow in. He was not for wide open borders >> and accept everyone who wants in....we have the right to be selective and >> Islamists who do not meld into our society and accept our values should be >> excluded as they cause division among the existing citizens. They bring >> Shira law with them which is incompatable with Western Law.......just as we >> would take our beliefs in Western Law to an Islamic Country who inturn do >> not allow westerners to change their systems but the ACLU, with >> CAIR Islamic money, is trying to change ours and introduce bits and piece >> of Shira into our system a little at a time in an attempt to erode our >> systems. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: [email protected] >> Reply-to: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> CC: [email protected] >> >> Sent: 4/11/2016 9:54:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time >> Subj: Re: [grendelreport] THOMAS JEFFERSON ON IMMIGRATION >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *You and I are "melting pot" people; citizens, that is, of that country >> set apart by Heav- en to receive those in search of the good life--those >> from from every nation, kindred, tongue, and people. As such, we, of all >> people, ought to recognize the value of a liberal [generous, not strict] >> immigration policy. President Thomas Jefferson, a descendent of immigrants, >> presiding over a nation of immigrants, thought so. In his first annual >> message, dated, December 8, 1801, he asked of those who thought to impose >> an extremely arduous course to citizenship for the im- migrant (a 14 years >> residency requirement), a few probing questions: "Shall we refuse the >> unhappy fugitives from distress that hospitality which the savages of the >> wilderness extended to our fathers arriving in this land? Shall op- pressed >> humanity find no asylum on this globe? The Constitution, indeed, has wisely >> provided that, for admission to certain offices of important trust, a resi- >> dence shall be required sufficient to develop character and design. But >> might not the general character and capabilities of a citizen be safely >> communicated to eve- ry one manifesting a bona fide purpose of embarking >> his life and fortunes perma- nently with us?" (1) The advocates of today's >> liberal immigration policies, or of far more radical proposals for open >> borders, might feel inclined to thus quote Jefferson, and feel justified. >> Yet they had better do so with caution. President Jefferson also suggested >> that America balance her open arm policy "with restrictions, perhaps, to >> guard against the fraudulent usurpation of our flag; an abuse which brings >> so much embarrassment and loss on the genuine citizen, and so much danger >> to the nation of being involved in war". "[N]o endeavor", he said, "should >> be spared to detect and suppress" this sort of im- migrant. (2) So much for >> blind liberality. Not every immigrant is a friend of America. Jefferson was >> no fool. He had other concerns too. In his Notes on the State of >> Virginia (1787), Jefferson reflects: "It is for the happiness of those >> united in society to harmonize as much as possi- ble in matters which they >> must of necessity transact together. Civil government being the sole object >> of forming societies, its administration must be conducted by common >> consent. "Every species of government has its specific principles. Ours >> perhaps are more peculiar than those of any other in the universe. It is a >> composition of the freest principles of the English Constitution, with >> others derived from natural right and natural reason. To these nothing can >> be more opposed than the maxims of abso- lute monarchies. Yet from such we >> are to expect the greatest number of emi- grants." (3) Jefferson warns, >> nearly prophetically: "They will bring with them the principles of the >> governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw >> them off, it will be in exchange for an un- bounded licentiousness, >> passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle >> were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These >> principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In >> pro- portion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. >> They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its directions, and >> render it a heterogeneous, in- coherent, distracted mass." 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