how many thousands were killed in the single incident of twin towers --- how many deaths caused by the US led to the counter attack on 911?
or the 14 deaths in one shooting rampage in San Bernidino --- In the US’s so-called War on Terror, by far the greatest and most systematic terrorization of civilians is in fact perpetrated by the US state itself. Unarmed citizens are murdered across the world as ‘collateral damage’, ‘illegal enemy combatants’ or other license of impunity. The US state conceives itself as above international law along with ally Israel, but this reality is taboo to report and so too all the killing and terrorization of civilians. One can truly say that “the historical record demonstrates the US is provably guilty of continual lawless mass murder of civilians across the world”, but the truth is unthinkable within the ruling ideological regime. Consider for example, the US-led deadly civil wars and coup d’etats in Venezuela and Ukraine as well as Libya and Syria. They mass terrorize and destroy societies into defenseless dependency so that their resources, lands and markets are “free” for transnational corporate exploitation. Yet the meaning is un-decoded. Ignorance is built into the syntax of acceptable thought. I would think you would be embarrassed to try and make a connection between what you say and my point that terrorists today are all Moslem. --- I would think you would be embarrassed by your ignorance and lies. On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 10:05:14 AM UTC-5, Bill wrote: > > You list 10 deaths in the last 30 years......how many thousands were > killed in the single incident of twin towers or the 14 deaths in one > shooting rampage in San Bernidino....give me a break....I'm sorry for those > 10 deaths and those murderers were captured and put away for a good long > time one , Tim Mc Vay was executed for his crime. More then 10 people die > every day at the hands of Moslems. I would think you would be embarrassed > to try and make a connection between what you say and my point that > terrorists today are all Moslem. > > In a message dated 4/12/2016 7:38:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] <javascript:> writes: > > Not all Moslems are terrorists but all terrorists are Moslem! > --- > > Below are 10 of the worst examples of christian terrorism that have > occurred in the United States in the last 30 years. > > *1. Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012*. The virulent, > neocon-fueled Islamophobia that has plagued post-9/11 America has not only > posed a threat to Muslims, it has had deadly consequences for people of > other faiths, including Sikhs. Sikhs are not Muslims; the traditional Sikh > attire, including their turbans, is different from traditional Sunni, > Shiite or Sufi attire. But to a racist, a bearded Sikh looks like a Muslim. > Only four days after 9/11, Balbir Singh Sodhi, a Sikh immigrant from India > who owned a gas station in Mesa, Arizona, was murdered by Frank Silva > Roque, a racist who obviously mistook him for a Muslim. > > But Sodhi’s murder was not the last example of anti-Sikh violence in > post-9/11 America. On Aug. 5, 2012, white supremacist Wade Michael Page > used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh > temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Page’s connection to the white supremacist > movement was well-documented: he had been a member of the neo-Nazi rock > bands End Empathy and Definite Hate. Attorney General Eric Holder described > the attack as “an act of terrorism, an act of hatred.” It was good to see > the nation’s top cop acknowledge that terrorist acts can, in fact, involve > white males murdering people of color. > > *2. The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009.* Imagine that a > physician had been the victim of an attempted assassination by an Islamic > jihadist in 1993, and received numerous death threats from al-Qaeda after > that, before being murdered by an al-Qaeda member. Neocons, Fox News and > the Christian Right would have had a field day. A physician *was* the > victim of a terrorist killing that day, but neither the terrorist nor the > people who inflamed the terrorist were Muslims. Dr. George Tiller, who was > shot and killed by anti-abortion terrorist Scott Roeder on May 31, 2009, > was a victim of Christian Right terrorism, not al-Qaeda. > > Tiller had a long history of being targeted for violence by Christian > Right terrorists. In 1986, his clinic was firebombed. Then, in 1993, Tiller > was shot five times by female Christian Right terrorist Shelly Shannon (now > serving time in a federal prison) but survived that attack. Given that > Tiller had been the victim of an attempted murder and received countless > death threats after that, Fox News would have done well to avoid fanning > the flames of unrest. Instead, Bill O’Reilly repeatedly referred to him as > “Tiller the baby killer." When Roeder murdered Tiller, O’Reilly condemned > the attack but did so in a way that was lukewarm at best. > > Keith Olbermann called O’Reilly out and denounced him as a “facilitator > for domestic terrorism” and a “blindly irresponsible man.” And *Crazy for > God*author Frank Schaffer, who was formerly a figure on the Christian > Right but has since become critical of that movement, asserted that the > Christian Right’s extreme anti-abortion rhetoric “helped create the climate > that made this murder likely to happen.” Neocon Ann Coulter, meanwhile, > viewed Tiller’s murder as a source of comic relief, telling O’Reilly, “I > don't really like to think of it as a murder. > <http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/funnyquotes/a/anncoulter.htm> It was > terminating Tiller in the 203rd trimester.” The Republican/neocon double > standard when it comes to terrorism is obvious. At Fox News and AM neocon > talk radio, Islamic terrorism is a source of nonstop fear-mongering, while > Christian Right terrorism gets a pass. > > *3. Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008*. > On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked > into the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, > Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two > were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he > was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays, and he > considered neocon Bernard Goldberg’s book, *100 People Who Are Screwing > Up America*, his political manifesto. Adkisson (who pleaded guilty to two > counts of first-degree murder and is now serving life in prison without > parole) was vehemently anti-abortion, but apparently committing an act of > terrorism during a children’s play was good ol’ Republican family values. > While Adkisson’s act of terrorism was reported on Fox News, it didn't get > the round-the-clock coverage an act of Islamic terrorism would have > garnered. > > *4. The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994*. To hear the Christian > Right tell it, there is no such thing as Christian terrorism. Tell that to > the victims of the Army of God, a loose network of radical Christianists > with a long history of terrorist attacks on abortion providers. One > Christian Right terrorist with ties to the Army of God was Paul Jennings > Hill, who was executed by lethal injection on Sept. 3, 2003 for the murders > of abortion doctor John Britton and his bodyguard James Barrett. Hill shot > both of them in cold blood and expressed no remorse whatsoever; he insisted > he was doing’s God’s work and has been exalted as a martyr by the Army of > God. > > *5. The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996.* Paul Jennings > Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the > Army of God; that organization has also praised Eric Rudolph, who is > serving life without parole for a long list of terrorist attacks committed > in the name of Christianity. Rudolph is best known for carrying out the > Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast > that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Hawthorne > wasn’t the only person Rudolph murdered: his bombing of an abortion clinic > in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a > Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse > Emily Lyons to lose an eye. > > Rudolph’s other acts of Christian terrorism include bombing the Otherwise > Lounge (a lesbian bar in Atlanta) in 1997 and an abortion clinic in an > Atlanta suburb in 1997. Rudolph was no lone wolf: he was part of a > terrorist movement that encouraged his violence. And the Army of God > continues to exalt Rudolph as a brave Christian who is doing God’s work. > > *6. The murder of Barnett Slepian by**James Charles Kopp**, Oct. 23, 1998*. > Like Paul Jennings Hill, Eric Rudolph and Scott Roeder, James Charles Kopp > is a radical Christian terrorist who has been exalted as a hero by the Army > of God. On Oct. 23, 1998 Kopp fired a single shot into the Amherst, NY home > of Barnett Slepian (a doctor who performed abortions), mortally wounding > him. Slepian died an hour later. Kopp later claimed he only meant to wound > Slepian, not kill him. But Judge Michael D'Amico of Erin County, NY said > that the killing was clearly premeditated and sentenced Kopp to 25 years to > life. Kopp is a suspect in other anti-abortion terrorist attacks, including > the non-fatal shootings of three doctors in Canada, though it appears > unlikely that Kopp will be extradited to Canada to face any charges. > > *7. Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994*. Seldom > has the term “Christian terrorist” been used in connection with John C. > Salvi on AM talk radio or at Fox News, but it’s a term that easily applies > to him. In 1994, the radical anti-abortionist and Army of God member > attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic in Brookline, Massachusetts, shooting > and killing receptionists Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols and wounding > several others. Salvi was found dead in his prison cell in 1996, and his > death was ruled a suicide. The Army of God has exalted Salvi as a Christian > martyr and described Lowney and Nichols not as victims of domestic > terrorism, but as infidels who got what they deserved. The Rev. Donald > Spitz, a Christianist and Army of God supporter who is so extreme that even > the radical anti-abortion group Operation Rescue disassociated itself from > him, has praised Salvi as well. > > *8. Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010*. When > Joseph Stack flew a plane into the Echelon office complex (where an IRS > office was located), Fox News’ coverage of the incident was calm and > matter-of-fact. Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa seemed to find the > attack amusing and joked that it could have been avoided if the federal > government had followed his advice and abolished the IRS. Nonetheless, > there were two fatalities: Stack and IRS employee Vernon Hunter. Stack left > behind a rambling suicide note outlining his reasons for the attack, which > included a disdain for the IRS as well as total disgust with health > insurance companies and bank bailouts. Some of the most insightful coverage > of the incident came from Noam Chomsky, who said that while Stack had some > legitimate grievances—millions of Americans shared his outrage over bank > bailouts and the practices of health insurance companies—the way he > expressed them was absolutely wrong. > > *9. The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984.* One of the most absurd > claims some Republicans have made about white supremacists is that they are > liberals and progressives. That claim is especially ludicrous in light of > the terrorist killing of liberal Denver-based talk show host Alan Berg, a > critic of white supremacists who was killed with an automatic weapon on > June 18, 1984. The killing was linked to members of the Order, a white > supremacist group that had marked Berg for death. Order members David Lane > (a former Ku Klux Klan member who had also been active in the Aryan > Nations) and Bruce Pierce were both convicted in federal court on charges > of racketeering, conspiracy and violating Berg’s civil rights and given > what amounted to life sentences. > > Robert Matthews, who founded the Order, got that name from a fictional > group in white supremacist William Luther Pierce’s anti-Semitic 1978 novel, > *The > Turner Diaries*—a book Timothy McVeigh was quite fond of. The novel’s > fictional account of the destruction of a government building has been > described as the inspiration for the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995. > > *10. Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995.* Neocons > and Republicans grow angry and uncomfortable whenever Timothy McVeigh is > cited as an example of a non-Islamic terrorist. Pointing out that a > non-Muslim white male carried out an attack as vicious and deadly as the > Oklahoma City bombing doesn’t fit into their narrative that only Muslims > and people of color are capable of carrying out terrorist attacks. Neocons > will claim that bringing up McVeigh’s name during a discussion of terrorism > is a “red herring” that distracts us from fighting radical Islamists, but > that downplays the cruel, destructive nature of the attack. > > Prior to the al-Qaeda attacks of 9/11, the Oklahoma City bombing McVeigh > orchestrated was the most deadly terrorist attack in U.S. history: 168 > people were killed and more than 600 were injured. When McVeigh used a > rented truck filled with explosives to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal > Building, his goal was to kill as many people as possible. McVeigh was > motivated by an extreme hatred for the U.S. government and saw the attack > as revenge for the Ruby Ridge incident of 1992 and the Waco Siege in 1993. > He had white supremacist leanings as well (when he was in the U.S. Army, > McVeigh was reprimanded for wearing a “white power” T-shirt he had bought > at a KKK demonstration). McVeigh was executed on June 11, 2001. He should > have served life without parole instead, as a living reminder of the type > of viciousness the extreme right is capable of. > > On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 12:13:31 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Click here: Christian Charities Profit from Muslim Refugee Resettlement >> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/29/unholy-alliance-christian-charities-profit-1-billion-fed-program-resettle-refugees-40-percent-muslim/> >> >> >> Money trumps common sense....look at these religious charities that are >> making millions to resettle Moslems who have sworn to destroy the very >> people helping them....look at who they killing in their home land >> Christians and Jews....look at the bombing of the park on Easter full >> of Christian women and children.......and the crazy Americans are being >> bought off......hope the Moslems go after them first.....stupid, nieve, >> selfesh people hiding behind the banner of Christisan and Jewish fellow >> ship. Do you think these charities would be helping the Moslems if there >> was not a lot of money to be made.......example of good ole capitolism at >> work and could easily cost them their heads when enough Moslem make it >> inside the USA. Remember they breed like rabbits. Not all Moslems are >> terrorists but all terrorists are Moslem! >> >> If you think their historic views and attitudes change just because they >> came to America....got a very busy bridge to sell to you in New York or the >> Peoples Republic of San Francisco. >> >> >> If you grew up in Amnerica with all those western views and attitudes and >> you found yourself in an Islamic country, would your long held views and >> beliefs suddenly become Islamic or would you still be an American at heart >> and just learn to keep your mouth shut but still remain a Westerner? >> > -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > <http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. 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