The Case for Separation --- segregation is a racist action. On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 8:38:49 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://fredoneverything.org/questions-for-black-lives-matterthe-case-for-separation/ > > > > *Questions for Black Lives Matter:The Case for Separation* > > Posted on May 5, 2016 > <http://fredoneverything.org/questions-for-black-lives-matterthe-case-for-separation/> > by > Fred Reed <http://fredoneverything.org/author/fredreed/> > > I reading the endless complaints by blacks about shootings by the police, > I usually find it hard to know what really happened. As far as I am aware, > the media never allow an unedited interview, or any interview, with the > police charged with the shootings but allow endless commentary by people > who weren’t there. > > I am also often puzzled by the motivation of the cops. Do they confer in > the morning and say, “Hey, let’s shoot some totally innocent black guy in > front of witnesses who probably have cell phones?” And why are cops not > brutalizing Latinos, only blacks, especially in LA, which provides a > target-rich environment? > > If I could, I would speak to BLM as follows: > > I cannot determine what you want. There seems to be a great deal of anger > but little clarity. Discussion usually wanders off into demands for > justice, but without specifics. > > Since I am looking for practical recommendations, let us begin by > acknowledging the circumstances we face. You say that white cops mistreat > blacks, sometimes brutally. This is true. I have seen some of it, and know > of more. White cops seldom like blacks, nor blacks, white cops. The > cultures are irreconcilably different. On the other hand, beatings of > whites, Latinos, and Asians by gangs of blacks are far outnumber beatings > of blacks by white cops. In sum, no love is lost and I do not see a lot of > moral high ground. So: > > *Do you want white policemen excluded from black neighborhoods?* > > The available answers are “yes,” and “no.” I do not mean to be abrupt > about this, but vague considerations of abstract justice, alleged > discrimination, and racism do not provide usable answers. So, do you want > white cops pulled from black neighborhoods, or not? It’s one or the other. > > Personally I think it wiser not to have whites policing blacks. I don’t > want to see white cops raped in media circuses. Nor do I want blacks to be > mistreated by white cops. It seems to me that BLM should support > segregation of police as it would eliminate any possibility of racist > behavior. But, again, I will accept whatever choice you make. > > *Two New Jersey Teens Arrested for Brutal Knockout Attack on Elderly Man > in Paterson > <http://www.infowars.com/two-new-jersey-teens-arrested-for-brutal-knockout-attack-on-elderly-man-in-paterson/>* > > *Do you want **any** policemen in your neighborhoods?* > > Here again a clear answer is needed. I have no stake in the question and > do not want to impose my standards on you. Yet a concrete policy must be > either no police, or police of some kind. Which? > > If you asked my advice, I would suggest that without police your > neighborhoods would turn into free-fire zones. Note that after Ferguson > police have in large part stopped policing, so you can get a minor idea of > what a police-less society will be like. However,your neighborhoods are > your neighborhoods. I will respect your decision. > > *Do blacks want to recruit, train, and discipline police forces of blacks > only in their neighborhoods?* > > Again, your choice. I do not presume to prescribe for you. However, it > would eliminate complaints of racism. Should this plan be adopted, black > forces would receive the same funding as white, the same pensions and > benefits, so there would be no question of discrimination. They would > better understand a black population. But do as you like. Just tell me, > specifically, what it is that you want. > > *‘Black Lives Matter’ Thugs Who Beat Marine Unconscious in Race Attack > WON’T Face Hate Crime Charges > <http://toprightnews.com/black-lives-matter-thugs-who-beat-marine-unconscious-in-race-attack-wont-face-hate-crime-charges/>* > > *What laws do you want cops to enforce in your neighborhoods?* > > *Specifically* what laws? Do you want the police to arrest crack dealers? > Yes, or no. Again, I don’t care, and do not tell you what to do. > > Yet cops need to know what they are expected to do. Should they stop > people drinking in public, or allow it? Dealing drugs? Illegal parking? > Public urination? Looting? Prostitution? I don’t care. Make any decision > you like, but tell the cops clearly, and do not penalize them for doing > what you tell them to do. > > As a multiculturalist, I believe that different ethnic and racial groups > should, within their neighborhoods, live by their own norms. That includes > *my* neighborhood and *my* norms. For example, in my neighborhood I would > want the police to shoot looters and arsonists. Perhaps this is a white > thing, but I am a white guy and I am talking about white neighborhoods and > white notions of civilization. > > [image: Description: RacialMurder] > > Breitbart: > <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/25/three-young-black-women-accused-beating-51-year-old-white-man-death/> > “Three > Young Black Women Accused of Beating 51-Year-Old White Man to Death” > Hundreds > <http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=colin+flaherty> > > of documented cases exist, carefully ignored by the media and the > government. If you ignore a lump, it will go away. Ask any oncologist. > > *What should cops do when a criminal resists arrest? * > > This is an important question, in fact *the* important question. Nearly > all of the complaints of shootings and beatings have involved resistance to > arrest. It becomes explosive when white cops are involved. Here we need a > clear answer. A cop cannot obey a vague abstraction. > > Let us suppose that in a black neighborhood a cop sees a wanted drug > dealer, rapist, killer, or burglar. He says, “You are under arrest,” and > the rapist or wanted armed robber or coke dealer says, “Fuck off, white > boy.” > > What does BLM want the cop to do? Nothing? Something? What? > *Specifically,* what? This is not a philosophical question. A cop in an > actual situation has to do something, or nothing. I don’t care which. You > tell me, and I will support your decision. But the cop has to know what is > expected of him. > > For a white cop, the best answer is “nothing.” Anything he does risks a > brutality beef: Physically tackling a criminal, tasing him, pepper-spraying > him, clubbing him, or shooting him all pose the risk of prosecution, > lawsuits, and loss of career. There is no pretty way to subdue a strong > male who doesn’t want to be subdued. A wanted killer is looking at a lot of > time in slam and will be perfectly willing to hurt a cop to avoid being > arrested. > > What do you want the cop to do? *Specifically* what? > > * What does BLM want **black** cops to do? * > > This is your business, not mine, but you might think about it from the > cop’s point of view. How should a black cop respond to resistance? > > Other questions merit consideration. If you have ever walked beats with > cops, which virtually no one has, you know that a cop faces ambiguities, > murky regions of the law, and sometimes problems that cannot be resolved > within the law. > > For example, suppose that a drug crew is selling on the sidewalk in front > of an old woman’s house, and she is afraid to go out for groceries. This is > not hypothetical: I have seen it. What should the cop do? > > Legally, he can do nothing. The sidewalk is public, certainly if they keep > moving. They will not be selling openly, so he can’t arrest them. He can > tell them to move on, and they may. The minute he is out of sight, they are > back. What if they say, “It’s a free country”? Now what? The little old > lady needs to eat. > > What do you suggest? If it is your old woman in your neighborhood, it is > your business, but the cop needs to know. > > In sum, if you will say what concrete and specific things you want, we can > discuss your desires rationally and perhaps come to a resolution. Some > problems will inevitably remain, such as what to do in mixed neighborhoods. > My take is that the quickest and easiest means of limiting friction is > simply to separate white cops and black people, and black cops and white > people, but this, if you agree that it is a good idea, cannot happen unless > groups like BLM ask for it. > > > > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected] <javascript:>> > ------------------------------ > > > Visit Your Group > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZm9zY2s1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NjI0NzY5Mjg-> > > > > [image: Yahoo! 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