In general, Clinton is a elitist, establishment DC Powerbroker who supports
a strong large "Federal/Central" governnment; and will engage our military
at the drop of a dime in order to support the alleged "Industrial-Military
Complex".

Keith,

We agree on something!!!

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
wrote:

> LOL!
>
> Michael, clearly Pierre Guerlain doesn't even know what a "NeoCon" even
> is!  By definition, a NeoCon is in fact a Democrat, or a former Democrat.
>
> I didn't get very far in this article....What with the premise that
> Clinton will even be the Democratic Nominee (which I am of the belief is
> highly unlikely); and that Hil Clinton could beat Trump are both far
> fetched notions.
>
> I do in a sense agree with Guerlain's premise though.  Clinton is a
> (Choose your own term, they're all accurate!)
>  "Fatalist/Globalist/Federalist"  (or as former Speaker Gingrich terms
> them:  "Pseudo-Intellectual Georgetown Bar Crowd")  but in general, Clinton
> is a elitist, establishment DC Powerbroker who supports a strong large
> "Federal/Central" governnment; and will engage our military at the drop of
> a dime in order to support the alleged "Industrial-Military Complex".
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:03 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> 27 May 2016
>>
>> *Hillary Clinton: The Neocon in Democrat's Clothing *By Pierre Guerlain
>>
>> The next president of the United States will almost certainly be a
>> Republican. No, not the one everyone in the media rejects, the buffoon
>> named Donald Trump who stands no chance of shaking the hands of world
>> leaders. Chances are, the next Republican president will be a woman, and
>> yes, her name will be Hillary Clinton.
>>
>> No kidding, if this comes to pass, history will be made: the first woman
>> president and among the first Republican neocons in Democratic garb.
>> Everyone knows the expression "a wolf in sheep's clothing." Now, it seems
>> the United States will invent the macho Republican in feminist, Democratic
>> clothing.
>>
>> Many authors have quoted a sentence by Bill Clinton
>> <http://www.salon.com/2011/06/21/lind_obama_republican/>:
>>
>> We're all Eisenhower Republicans here, and we are fighting the Reagan
>> Republicans. We stand for lower deficits and free trade and the bond
>> market. Isn't that great?
>>
>> Eisenhower Republicans were, by today's standards, quite moderate. The
>> quote refers to the 1990s, and already Bill Clinton had triangulated his
>> presidency to Republican-hood. He had demolished Aid to Families With
>> Dependent Children and bought into the bash-the-poor rhetoric of the right
>> wing. He had passed a crime bill that targeted people of color; he had
>> destroyed FDR's legacy, notably by abolishing the Glass-Steagall Act. And
>> he was so "tough on crime" that during the 1992 presidential campaign
>> season, he had gone back to his home state of Arkansas to witness the
>> execution of Ricky Ray Rector, who was "mentally deficient." Bill Clinton
>> might not have inhaled marijuana, but he certainly had inhaled the poison
>> of right-wing ideas.
>>
>> As we all know, Hillary Clinton openly supported many of Bill Clinton's
>> political measures. She used the terrible expression "superpredators,"
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALXulk0T8cg> supported the crime bill
>> and made a hash of health insurance reform
>> <http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/24/the-new-hillary/>. Liza
>> Featherstone talks about Hillary Clinton's
>> <http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35006-hillary-clinton-s-faux-feminism>
>> faux
>> <http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35006-hillary-clinton-s-faux-feminism>
>> feminism
>> <http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35006-hillary-clinton-s-faux-feminism>,
>> and she links her critique to class themes, which is as it should be.
>> Feminists cannot be elite feminists or 1% feminists if they want to defend
>> the rights of all women.
>>
>> For more original Truthout election coverage, check out our election
>> section, "Beyond the Sound Bites: Election 2016."
>> <http://www.truth-out.org/election-2016>
>>
>> Hillary Clinton's track record on issues of poverty, racial justice and
>> justice for women is appalling. As a former member of the board of Walmart,
>> she sided with the rich and powerful
>> <http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/34913-with-hillary-clinton-corporate-america-defines-the-limits-of-acceptable-opinion>,
>> which she also does when she gives speeches for Wall Street. The really
>> important question is how someone who has constantly sided with the rich
>> can campaign as a progressive, as a friend of people of color and even as a
>> feminist? Michelle Alexander exposed the hypocrisy of the situation in
>> arguing that " Hillary Clinton doesn't deserve the black vote
>> <http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/>
>> ."
>>
>> On foreign policy issues, Hillary Clinton is not even an Eisenhower
>> Republican, but a war hawk whose philosophy and shortsightedness is
>> evidenced by the flippant way in which she advocated for war in Libya and
>> the way in which she celebrated. "We came, we saw, he died," she said
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y> and laughed loudly. This
>> cruel statement does not take into account the mess and mayhem left behind
>> after the intervention, something President Obama calls a " shit show
>> <http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/>"
>> and his worst mistake. But it is the companion piece to her major fellow
>> elite "feminist" Madeleine Albright declaring
>> <http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/>
>> that killing half a million Iraqis is worth it.
>>
>> Hillary Clinton, like true neoliberals in the GOP, supported the North
>> American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), so as Bill had said she supported
>> the bond market and free trade. Now, she claims she did not, but, of
>> course, she is lying. Her lies also have to do with Wall Street (she has
>> not released the text of her speeches), support for people of color and her
>> feminism.
>>
>> The challenge by Bernie Sanders, who is still around and has no intention
>> of dropping out of the primaries, made Clinton change her tune, but, of
>> course, she is ready to say anything to be elected. Now that she is facing
>> a buffoon who makes racist, sexist, dishonest remarks all the time, she can
>> play a series of cards that do not correspond to who she really is: the
>> progressive card, the antiracist card, the feminist card, the "consistent"
>> card, the geopolitical card. The campaign circus or electoral extravaganza
>> can now become man vs. woman, or rather, racist white man vs. "friend of
>> minorities" woman. Yet, if there is little doubt that Donald Trump is a
>> vile demagogue who sometimes hits upon an issue of concern to ordinary
>> people, the identity of the other candidate is all phony.
>>
>> Feminism cannot be only about the equality of CEO compensations. Equality
>> in CEO compensations in general should exist at a much-reduced level. In
>> his book *Listen, Liberal*
>> <http://us.macmillan.com/listenliberal/thomasfrank>, Thomas Frank tells
>> the story of a Clinton convention meeting he attended and what he witnessed
>> was Hillary Clinton as "Ms. Walmart," pretending she cares about all women.
>> Frank, who is genuinely worried about rising inequality in the United
>> States and racial justice, suggests that *elite feminism* is worried
>> about the glass ceiling for CEOs, but does not even worry about
>> working-class women who have "no floors" under them. Hillary Clinton is a
>> 1% millionaire who now talks the progressive talk, but never really walked
>> the progressive walk.
>>
>> It would indeed be a symbolic change if the US elected a woman president,
>> but for the symbol not to be empty, something more is needed. If a woman
>> president does not improve the lot of the majority of women, then what is
>> the good of a symbol?
>>
>> Hillary Clinton is actually to the right of President Dwight D.
>> Eisenhower -- "Ike." He refused to use the atom bomb in Asia, showing more
>> geopolitical prudence than Hillary "we came and he died" Clinton. He also
>> wanted to preserve the FDR advances that the Clintons have done so much to
>> cancel or erase.
>>
>> In a 1954 letter to his brother, Eisenhower wrote
>> <http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/not-like-ike/?_r=0>:
>> "Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security,
>> unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you
>> would not hear from that party again in our political history."
>>
>> Unfortunately, Ike was not right. Later, the Republicans -- starting with
>> Hillary Clinton's youth idol Barry Goldwater -- and the Democrats calling
>> themselves "New Democrats" vied with each other to dismantle the New Deal
>> and the Great Society programs that Democrats had set up. Noam Chomsky
>> argues
>> <http://www.salon.com/2015/09/23/noam_chomsky_right_wing_extremism_from_trump_may_be_comic_relief_but_its_not_that_different_from_the_mainstream/>
>> that the GOP is not a political party any longer, but a radical insurgency,
>> for it has gone off the political cliff. The Democrats have become the Old
>> Republicans and Hillary Clinton is more neocon than traditional
>> conservative of the Eisenhower type.
>>
>> So Hillary Clinton, the Republican, is poised to win in November, but her
>> Republicanism is closer to George W. Bush's and even more conservative than
>> Ronald Reagan's -- except on the societal issues that have now reached a
>> kind of quasi-consensus like same-sex marriage. She is a pro-business,
>> Koch-compatible lover of Wall Street who uses feminism like some
>> pinkwashers or greenwashers use progressive agendas to sell regressive
>> policies. Author Diana Johnstone calls her the "Queen of Chaos
>> <https://www.akpress.org/queen-of-chaos.html>." Clinton is the queen of
>> deception, faux feminism and faux progressivism, whose election will be
>> made easier by her loutish, vulgar, sexist loudmouth of an opponent.
>>
>> In his book *The Deep State*, Mike Lofgren quotes
>> <http://www.salon.com/2016/01/05/controlled_by_shadow_government_mike_lofgren_reveals_how_top_u_s_officials_are_at_the_mercy_of_the_deep_state/>
>> H.L. Mencken <https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/H._L._Mencken>, who gave
>> away what explains the success of the political circus: "The whole aim of
>> practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to
>> be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all
>> of them imaginary."
>>
>> George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and the neoconservatives were past masters at
>> this creation of hobgoblins, but now Hillary Clinton, the opportunist, can
>> outdo them and out-Republicanize them. I think Ike would not like her; she
>> might now be even more reactionary than Goldwater. Indeed, Charles Koch
>> <http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/24/charles-koch-says-he-could-possibly-support-hillary-clinton/>
>> (whose hatred of progressivism is well documented by Jane Meyer in her
>> book, *Dark Money*
>> <http://org2.salsalabs.com/o/6694/t/17304/shop/item.jsp?storefront_KEY=661&t=&store_item_KEY=3198>)
>> expressed some admiration for Bill and Hillary Clinton and said he could
>> vote for Hillary this time around.
>>
>> The GOP is dying, but a reactionary Republican in faux progressive
>> clothing, loved by the wolves of Wall Street and the wolves of the
>> Kochtopus
>> <https://prezi.com/5xzibopikc3a/ifgs-kochtopus-mapping-the-influence-of-koch-cash/?utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=copy>,
>> will most probably win.
>>
>>
>> http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/36201-hillary-clinton-the-neocon-in-democrat-s-clothing
>>
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