Rofl The old moral equivalency fallacy
The worlds oldest fallacy "Eve did it too" Irrelevant what the Hebrew bible says people did or thought about doing Jews and Christians have not been lynching gays for decades if not centuries as a public practice Injoined by their highest clerics and politicians, nor beheading apostates nor beating women. Another example of how so called pseudo progressives are retarded children who should never be credited with adult conversation and should not be allowed to vote On Tuesday, June 28, 2016, pluto of brougham <[email protected]> wrote: > In fact Keith it wasn't exactly that Jerusalem was mostly Christian, it > was because everyone was kept in check because Palestine (including Israel) > was a British mandate, and before that with French influence again everyone > lived a quite existence, be that as it may, I emphatically believe that > were the united nation resolutions (I forget which numbers) stating that > Israel give back the occupied territories to Palestine, there would be far > less islamic animosity, I might add these UN resolutions have been in force > for at least 3 decades, with Israel thumbing their noses at them. > > Keith, I credit you with a great degree of intelligence, what I cannot > understand is that you believe everything that you may see on video/youtube > or wherever; that Weston fellow was picking and choosing what he needed for > his argument, both you and I dismiss the Old Testament, but I reckon I > could make such a vid quoting just as violent and dastardly practices from > it, and you very well know that there are huge number of Christians, > especially the fundamentalists that would embrace it wholeheartedly, and > whilst not actually murdering people would no doubt rejoice in the > extermination of any gay person, goodness knows how many (cheap) champagne > corks were popped when the Aids crisis was at it's peak, and this is but > one example. > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:59 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > [email protected] > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/politicalforum/topics> > Google > Groups > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > Topic digest > View all topics > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/politicalforum/topics> > > - Digest for [email protected] - 25 updates in 8 topics > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_0> > - 2 Updates > - The Last Refuge: The American Electorate Recognizing Some Very > Uncomfortable Truths… > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_1> > - 2 Updates > - [New post] 2036-Islamic Dog Killers > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_2> > - 1 Update > - [New post] JACKASS vs HORSE > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_3> > - 2 Updates > - [grendelreport] Obama Changed U.S. Citizenship Oath Specifically To > Accommodate Sharia And Islamic Law > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_4> > - 1 Update > - Check out Two Centuries of US Immigration Visualized > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_5> > - 1 Update > - [grendelreport] FBI didn’t bother to inform some Americans they were > on Islamic State kill list > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_6> > - 1 Update > - [grendelreport] America's Constitutional System Is Hanging by a > Thread > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_7> > - 1 Update > - [grendelreport] Obama Has Issued One Million Muslim Green Cards > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_8> > - 1 Update > - [grendelreport] Obama Caused Orlando > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_9> > - 1 Update > - [grendelreport] The untold horrifying tales of Hillary’s time in the > White House > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_10> > - 1 Update > - Senate Republicans Call For More Surveillance After Orlando Massacre > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_11> > - 2 Updates > - MSNBC: Attorney General Loretta Lynch Stumped About Orlando > Terrorists Motive… > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_12> > - 1 Update > - Trump fired his campaign manager ... can't imagine why > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_13> > - 1 Update > - Is this the foreshadowing of how a Trump administration would > operate? > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_14> > - 1 Update > - [grendelreport] The Lie that is Hillary > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_15> > - 2 Updates > - [New post] Day Of Wrath > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_16> > - 1 Update > - [grendelreport] Obama's "Refugee" Resettlement Program: Civilization > Jihad Combined With Civilization Suicide > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_17> > - 1 Update > - [grendelreport] Islam Is Democracy's 800-Pound Gorilla > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_18> > - 1 Update > - [grendelreport] AG Lynch to Muslim community: You 'are under our > protection' > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_group_thread_19> > - 1 Update > > Digest for [email protected] - 25 updates in 8 topics > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/3ba9cd4439b2f419?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > pluto of brougham <[email protected]>: Jun 29 11:25AM +1000 > > Again, as I said earlier, it's speculation, but it's hard for me to believe > that Jerusalem in particular would be an "Open City" as it is today, were > it not for the Nation of Israel. > > Strange isn't it, that Christian churches have been there for millennia and > pilgrims were allowed to visit the Holy City since the 3/4th centuries, > until the Crusades and after, no doubt Keith you totally agree that the > original state that was Israel in 1948 has expanded by at least 85% by them > invading and occupying Palestinian land and in effect "ethnic cleansing" in > the most horrific murderous ways, but then again, no doubt jews make up a > large number of your clientele. > > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 28 09:57PM -0400 > > Good Evening Pluto; > > That's not exactly true; and it has taken bloodshed; even in the 3rd, 4th, > 5th....Hell every century in order to keep the Jewish and Christian > monuments there and in place. Up until the last century, most all of > Jerusalem was in fact Christian. > > Pluto, I hope you'll watch this short video by Dr. Paul Weston: > > https://player.vimeo.com/video/167607521 > > If' you're really interested in truly learning about the tenets and > principals of the Ideology of Islam, then I strongly encourage you to take > a look at Dr. Bill Warner's web page, which can be found here: > > https://www.politicalislam.com/author/ > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:25 PM, pluto of brougham < > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_digest_top> > The Last Refuge: The American Electorate Recognizing Some Very > Uncomfortable Truths… > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/84436c5b856f9e0f?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 28 09:18PM -0400 > > It's going to get a lot nastier before the smoke clears: > > The Last Refuge <https://theconservativetreehouse.com/> > Rag Tag Bunch of Conservative Misfits – Contact Info: > [email protected] > > <https://theconservativetreehouse.com/> > > ← Donald Trump Rally, Saint Clairsville Ohio – 7:00pm Live Stream… > < > https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/28/donald-trump-rally-saint-clairsville-ohio-700pm-live-stream/ > > > The American Electorate Recognizing Some Very Uncomfortable Truths… > < > https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/28/the-american-electorate-recognizing-some-very-uncomfortable-truths/ > > > Posted on June 28, 2016 > < > https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/28/the-american-electorate-recognizing-some-very-uncomfortable-truths/ > > > by sundance <https://theconservativetreehouse.com/author/sundancecracker/> > > Whether you have historically found yourself aligning with the traditional > political left (Democrats) or the traditional political right > (Republicans), it really matters not. In the next several months we are > about to see some very uncomfortable truths. > > To our friends from the “Conservative Right”, we simply share a message:* > if > we thought candidate Donald Trump had already revealed many usurping agents > within our collective ranks, we ain’t seen nothing yet*. > > Example: > > [image: us coc tweet trump speech] > > If we’re willing to bear witness, we are about to see just how deep, > entrenched and controlling the Globalist/Wall Street financial tentacles > are within the party apparatus. > > We shall also witness the professional punditry, specific websites, > particular radio voices, voluminous writers, historic authors, etc. who > gain financial benefit from supporting these same usurping agents. > > [image: us coc tweet nafta] > > Follow <https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2> > TheLastRefuge @TheLastRefuge2 <https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2> > > When you define beneficiaries as Wall Street Corps the U.S. CoC is correct. > For U.S. workers it's been a disaster.https://twitter.com/USChamber/stat > us/747863742839390208 … <https://t.co/6x9fhXOJMx> > 4:08 PM - 28 Jun 2016 > <https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/747884309642682368> > > - > <https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=747884309642682368> > - > 4343 Retweets > <https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=747884309642682368> > - > 3737 likes <https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=747884309642682368> > > On the political right these are the agents/minions of the U.S. CoC and Tom > Donohue. They are not dissimilar to the political left and George Soros. > Their objectives are synergistic. > > For several years our research has been leading toward a larger > understanding. The financial constructs are way bigger deeper than anyone > has yet to fathom. There are trillions at stake. > > Trump’s economic speech obviously put these various Wall Street agents on > notice today. They are now forced to come out of the shadows and attack. > > Just watch…. > View image on Twitter > <http://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/747913700821053440/photo/1> > [image: View image on Twitter] > <http://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/747913700821053440/photo/1> > > Follow <https://twitter.com/benshapiro> > Ben Shapiro > ✔@benshapiro <https://twitter.com/benshapiro> > > Trump Unleashes Garbage Trumponomics In Front Of Garbage Wall http://www. > dailywire.com/news/7034/trum > > p-unleashes-garbage-trumponomics-front-garbage-ben-shapiro?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=news&utm_campaign=twitterbenshapiro > … <https://t.co/TciULYyWof> > 6:04 PM - 28 Jun 2016 > <https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/747913700821053440> > > - > <https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=747913700821053440> > - > 2121 Retweets > <https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=747913700821053440> > - > 4444 likes <https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=747913700821053440> > > Follow <https://twitter.com/JonahNRO> > Jonah Goldberg > ✔@JonahNRO <https://twitter.com/JonahNRO> > > Reform conservatism is insufficiently conservative! Let's nominate someone > who merely pretends to be conservative!http://www. > nationalreview.com/article/432487 > /donald-trump-conservative-supporters-have-sold-out … > <https://t.co/FHCRT3FNgp> > 4:51 PM - 28 Jun 2016 > <https://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/747895317652176897> > [image: Photo published for Conservative Purists Are Capitulating with > Support of Trump, by Jonah Goldberg, National Review] > Conservative Purists Are Capitulating with Support of Trump, by Jonah > Goldberg, National Review > > Donald Trump's conservative supporters are sacrificing principles in order > to win. > nationalreview.com > <https://t.co/FHCRT3FNgp> > > - > <https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=747895317652176897> > - > 5151 Retweets > <https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=747895317652176897> > - > 9090 likes <https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=747895317652176897> > > 99% of the political right has been manipulated, trained like Pavlov’s > voters, with social issues and social fear to pull a specific lever and get > a specific pellet. > > 99% of the political left has been manipulated the exact same way. > > It’s about to get really ugly as the financial benefactors begin to realize > their masters coffers, the bankers – their employers, might not be > available to sustain them should Donald Trump win the 2016 presidential > election. > > These ‘*paid-to-deliver-content’* voices don’t really care about gun > rights, constitutional limits or lack thereof; ultimately they don’t care > about, laws, courts or SCOTUS appointments, or abortion, or > (fill__in__the__blank). > > For the Soro’s, Donohue, Reid, Pelosi, McConnell and Ryan types it’s about > power. > > For those who write favorably about Soro’s, Donohue, Reid, Pelosi, > McConnell and Ryan legislative constructs… > …..What they really care about is their bank account. > > Watch. > > [image: trump lion] > > [image: Utopia] > About these ads <https://wordpress.com/about-these-ads/> > geoffrey theist <[email protected]>: Jun 28 08:52PM -0500 > > This election cycle also reveals just how far we are plugged into the > global infrastructure. these trade and climate agreements usurp our > sovereignty. both parties have allowed millions of Mexicans to cross our > border with impunity. The constitution is being marginalized I read that > Obama changed the oath that immigrants have to swear to is now sharia > compliant which is a foreign legal code that is not the constitution of the > United States. This in my opinion is a form of institutional treason!! > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_digest_top> > [New post] 2036-Islamic Dog Killers > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/c0082e704c18ee3?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > [email protected]: Jun 28 09:23PM -0400 > > ......denying reality is not a "treatable disorder." > > > In a message dated 6/28/2016 7:12:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > islamophobia is a treatable disorder. > > On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 7:23:00 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote: > > > > > > burkasrugly posted: "Fellow kafirs, This is the second installment of > a new series by Constantine - Burkasrugly The city of Memphis was governed > by a Sharia Law Council by 2035. One of the major concerns of the Council > was the vast number of dogs in the city. Some est" Respond to this > post by replying above this line > > New post on actjonesboroar > (https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/author/burkasrugly/) > _2036-Islamic Dog Killers_ > (https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/2016/06/28/2036-islamic-dog-killers/) > > by _burkasrugly_ (https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/author/burkasrugly/) > > > > Fellow kafirs, > This is the second installment of a new series by Constantine - > Burkasrugly > The city of Memphis was governed by a Sharia Law Council by 2035. One of > the major concerns of the Council was the vast number of dogs in the > city. Some estimated the canine population at over 250,000. Muslims > believe > other Muslims can keep dogs for just two reasons. First, as guard dogs and > then, as herding dogs with livestock. Non-Muslims are not allowed to > keep dogs for any reason. The 57% of Memphians who were infidels were not > allowed to have dogs for any reason. > The Sharia Council in an effort to be viewed as moderate first proposed > surrendering your dog for a free kitten. This was actually an ISIS > recruiting tool back in 2016. A few Memphians agreed to the swap. Mostly > sick, > diseased dogs were turned in for the kittens. The Sharia Council next > decreed that all dogs must be surrendered in the next thirty days. After > that > period elapsed the mandatory confiscation of canines began. Muslims > affiliated with ISIS began to search houses door to door. Since Sharia had > eviscerated the U.S. Constitution there were no 4th Amendment protections > against unreasonable searches. Muslims were running rampant over Memphis > searching everywhere for dogs. > Most people simply turned their dogs out of their homes and back yards. > As a result about 200,000 dogs literally took to the streets. Muslim dog > killing squads roamed the streets with AK-47s firing full auto at dogs. > Needless to say lots of Memphians were caught in the crossfire. The first > week of the Islamic campaign to eradicate dogs 37 Memphians were killed > and an astounding 297 were wounded by errant gunfire. All of these people > were infidels and their deaths really didn't matter because they were > viewed > as filth just like the dogs. > However, the dogs (or one particular dog) shot and killed a Muslim. > Several Muslims in a canine killer squad were trying to load dogs into a > specially designed truck to burn dogs alive. Four Muslim men were trying > to herd dogs into the truck. They had foolishly left their guns on the > ground. One dog placed his paw on the trigger of a fully auto weapon. > Seven > rounds hit the jihadi in his lower stomach and chest. The Muslim died in > excruciating agony. > Now more about the special trucks built to quickly eliminate dogs. Large > cages were built on the back of dump trucks. Infidel dhimmis sprayed > gasoline on hundreds of dogs. Then a lighted match was tossed into the > cages. > Have you ever heard a dog scream? Hundreds of dogs were screaming in > utter terror from the pain of being burned alive. Meanwhile, the Muslims > were laughing their asses off at this carnival of carnage. Infidels - who > were considered filth - were required to remove the dogs who were also > viewed as filth. > Still there were many people, particularly the elderly, who would not > give up their dogs. Imam Abu Mohammed Yaser Gadhi, who was the head of the > Sharia Council, convened his group of clerics. Yasir Gadhi proposed that > group find a fitting punishment of the owners of dogs. Gadhi realized that > Iran in 2015 had decreed that a person harboring a dog be given 74 lashes > and fined $5,000. Gadhi, who believed Islam should mercifully reduce the > number of lashes to thirty and a fine of $20,000 paid. If the dog owner > was > over 60 or in poor health the lashes would be 10 per day spread over 3 > days. Unbelievable numbers of elderly Memphians were ferreted out. Over a > three-day period they were whipped. The Muslims, who were charged with > whipping the infirm delighted in their barbarous task. Dozens of older > people > died from heart attacks, stroke or infection. If you didn't have the > $20,000 the number of lashes were tripled. > Meanwhile, thousands of stray dogs infested the city. Soon vicious packs > of large dogs were attacking Muslims often times ripping their throats > out. Don't ask me how, but soon the dogs learned how to target Muslims. > Dead > Muslims began to appear all over the city half eaten by starving dogs. > Dogs were often smarter than their Muslim tormentors. Within two years the > dog population of Memphis had doubled. > If you were Muslim and had the misfortune to be killed by a dog you were > certain to go to Islamic Hell. If the dog urinated on your dead face you > were really in big trouble. > So dogs unaided by humans carried the war to the Muslims. A fact that > was not wasted on the infidels. > In hoc signo, > Constantine > P.S. "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey, and a woman (if they pass > in front of the praying people)." > Bukhari, Volume 1, #490 > > > _burkasrugly_ (https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/author/burkasrugly/) > | > June 28, 2016 at 2:39 am | Tags: _Memphis_ > (https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/?tag=memphis) , _Muslims hate dogs_ > (https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/?tag=muslims-hate-dogs) , _Muslims > kill dogs_ > (https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/?tag=muslims-kill-dogs) | > Categories: _Radical Islam_ > (https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/?cat=259237) | URL: > http://wp.me/p1t1Gt-22n > _Comment_ > ( > https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/2016/06/28/2036-islamic-dog-killers/#respond) > _See all comments_ > ( > https://actjonesboroar.wordpress.com/2016/06/28/2036-islamic-dog-killers/#comments) > > _Unsubscribe_ > ( > https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=1d26f3d2707c7345915d8b297361ecf7&[email protected]&b=0Ya?sH-wdF2eOttEuEFIUd_j?Rvaej > PbFBXAp3WV5m3?.d?NQS) to no longer receive posts from actjonesboroar. > Change your email settings at _Manage Subscriptions_ > ( > https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=1d26f3d2707c7345915d8b297361ecf7&email=bovinescatologists@gm > ail.com) . > Trouble clicking? 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"The American > Jewish Congress > has opened the gates of immigration to America and ...Jews Demand Open > Borders for USA, But Use DNA to Keep Israel ... > < > http://newobserveronline.com/jews-demand-open-borders-for-usa-but-use-dna-to-keep-israel-racially-pure/ > > > newobserveronline.com/*jews*-demand-*open*-*borders*-for-*usa* > -but-use-dna-to-keep-isra... > > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 12:16 PM, plainolamerican < > [email protected] > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_digest_top> > [grendelreport] FBI didn’t bother to inform some Americans they were on > Islamic State kill list > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/4d9b6fc9c0f1c957?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 28 08:06PM -0400 > > Most of the names do not appear to be Jewish: > > > ISIS To Attack US Citizens? Islamic State ‘Kill Lists’ Include Names, > Addresses Of Average Citizens > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3195139/The-chilling-ISIS-hitlist-Terror-group-hacks-publish-personal-details-hundreds-military-political-diplomatic-personnel-urges-local-extremists-kill-including-EIGHT-Australians.html > > > http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/11/islamic-state-kill-lists-target-average-american-civilians/ > > *Terror group hacks personal details of hundreds of military, political and > diplomatic personnel and posts them online urging local extremists to kill > them… * > > > Troops notified their names are on Islamic State kill list > > http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/23/pentagon-response-islamic-state-kill-list/70335810/ > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM, plainolamerican < > [email protected] > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_digest_top> > [grendelreport] America's Constitutional System Is Hanging by a Thread > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/1ef5211b0d675c02?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 28 07:54PM -0400 > > *President Obama*: *“Our founders conceived of this country as a refuge > for the world.”* > > > *"Obama didn't say this" ... * > > > Yes; President Obama did in fact say this; last Thursday, in a Presser. > I heard him say it: > > > http://usa.liveuamap.com/en/2016/23-june-potus-our-founders-conceived-of-this-country-as-a > > More importantly, it is not Jews per-se who promote such liberal > Anti-American rhetoric and divide; but instead it is individuals who have a > secular-progressive, "Open Border/Globalist/Elitist" attitude like Plain > Ol' who in fact support such acts. > > ne 23, 2016 > Remarks by the President on the Supreme Court Decision on U.S. Versus Texas > > James S. Brady Press Briefing Room > > 11:53 A.M. EDT > > THE PRESIDENT: Good morning, everybody. I wanted to say a few words on > two of the cases the Supreme Court spoke on today. > > First, in the affirmative action case, I’m pleased that the Supreme Court > upheld the basic notion that diversity is an important value in our > society, and that this country should provide a high-quality education to > all our young people, regardless of their background. We are not a country > that guarantees equal outcomes, but we do strive to provide an equal shot > to everybody. And that’s what was upheld today. > > Second, one of the reasons why America is such a diverse and inclusive > nation is because we’re a nation of immigrants. *Our Founders conceived of > this country as a refuge for the world.* And for more than two centuries, > welcoming wave after wave of immigrants has kept us youthful and dynamic > and entrepreneurial. It has shaped our character, and it has made us > stronger. > > But for more than two decades now, our immigration system, everybody > acknowledges, has been broken. And the fact that the Supreme Court wasn’t > able to issue a decision today doesn’t just set the system back even > further, it takes us further from the country that we aspire to be. > > Just to lay out some basic facts that sometimes get lost in what can be an > emotional debate. Since I took office, we've deployed more border agents > and technology to our southern border than ever before. That has helped > cut illegal border crossings to their lowest levels since the 1970s. It > should have paved the way for comprehensive immigration reform. And, in > fact, as many of you know, it almost did. Nearly 70 Democrats and > Republicans in the Senate came together to pass a smart, common-sense bill > that would have doubled the border patrol, and offered undocumented > immigrants a pathway to earn citizenship if they paid a fine, paid their > taxes, and played by the rules. > > Unfortunately, Republicans in the House of Representatives refused to allow > a simple yes or no vote on that bill. So I was left with little choice but > to take steps within my existing authority to make our immigration system > smarter, fairer, and more just. > > Four years ago, we announced that those who are our lowest priorities for > enforcement -- diligent, patriotic young DREAMers who grew up pledging > allegiance to our flag -- should be able to apply to work here and study > here and pay their taxes here. More than 730,000 lives have been changed > as a result. These are students, they’re teachers, they’re doctors, > they’re lawyers. They’re Americans in every way but on paper. And > fortunately, today’s decision does not affect this policy. It does not > affect the existing DREAMers. > > Two years ago, we announced a similar, expanded approach for others who are > also low priorities for enforcement. We said that if you’ve been in > America for more than five years, with children who are American citizens > or legal residents, then you, too, can come forward, get right with the > law, and work in this country temporarily, without fear of deportation. > > Both were the kinds of actions taken by Republican and Democratic > Presidents over the past half-century. Neither granted anybody a free > pass. All they did was focus our enforcement resources -- which are > necessarily limited -- on the highest priorities: convicted criminals, > recent border crossers, and threats to our national security. > > Now, as disappointing as it was to be challenged for taking the kind of > actions that other administrations have taken, the country was looking to > the Supreme Court to resolve the important legal questions raised in this > case. Today, the Supreme Court was unable to reach a decision. This is > part of the consequence of the Republican failure so far to give a fair > hearing to Mr. Merrick Garland, my nominee to the Supreme Court. It means > that the expanded set of common-sense deferred action policies -- the ones > that I announced two years ago -- can’t go forward at this stage, until > there is a ninth justice on the Court to break the tie. > > I know a lot of people are going to be disappointed today, but it is > important to understand what today means. The deferred action policy that > has been in place for the last four years is not affected by this ruling. > Enforcement priorities developed by my administration are not affected by > this ruling. This means that the people who might have benefitted from the > expanded deferred action policies -- long-term residents raising children > who are Americans or legal residents -- they will remain low priorities for > enforcement. As long as you have not committed a crime, our limited > immigration enforcement resources are not focused on you. > > But today’s decision is frustrating to those who seek to grow our economy > and bring a rationality to our immigration system, and to allow people to > come out of the shadows and lift this perpetual cloud on them. I think it > is heartbreaking for the millions of immigrants who’ve made their lives > here, who’ve raised families here, who hoped for the opportunity to work, > pay taxes, serve in our military, and more fully contribute to this country > we all love in an open way. > > So where do we go from here? > > Most Americans -- including business leaders, faith leaders, and law > enforcement, Democrats and Republicans and independents > -- still agree that the single best way to solve this problem is by working > together to pass common-sense, bipartisan immigration reform. > > That is obviously not going to happen during the remainder of this > Congress. We don’t have is a Congress that agrees with us on this. Nor do > we have a Congress that’s willing to do even its most basic of jobs under > the Constitution, which is to consider nominations. Republicans in > Congress currently are willfully preventing the Supreme Court from being > fully staffed and functioning as our Founders intended. And today’s > situation underscores the degree to which the Court is not able to function > the way it's supposed to. > > The Court’s inability to reach a decision in this case is a very clear > reminder of why it’s so important for the Supreme Court to have a full > bench. For more than 40 years, there’s been an average of just over two > months between a nomination and a hearing. I nominated Judge Merrick > Garland to the Supreme Court more than three months ago. But most > Republicans so far refuse to even meet with him. They are allowing > partisan politics to jeopardize something as fundamental as the > impartiality and integrity of our justice system. And America should not > let it stand. > > This is an election year. And during election years, politicians tend to > use the immigration issue to scare people with words like “amnesty” in > hopes that it will whip up votes. Keep in mind that millions of us, myself > included, go back generations in this country, with ancestors who put in > the painstaking effort to become citizens. And we don’t like the notion > that anyone might get a free pass to American citizenship. But here’s the > thing. Millions of people who have come forward and worked to get right > with the law under this policy, they’ve been living here for years, too -- > in some cases, even decades. So leaving the broken system the way it is, > that’s not a solution. In fact, that's the real amnesty. Pretending we > can deport 11 million people, or build a wall without spending tens of > billions of dollars of taxpayer money is abetting what is really just > factually incorrect. It's not going to work. It's not good for this > country. It's a fantasy that offers nothing to help the middle class, and > demeans our tradition of being both a nation of laws and a nation of > immigrants. > > In the end, it is my firm belief that immigration is not something to > fear. We don’t have to wall ourselves off from those who may not look like > us right now, or pray like we do, or have a different last name. Because > being an American is about something more than that. What makes us > Americans is our shared commitment to an ideal that all of us are created > equal, all of us have a chance to make of our lives what we will. And > every study shows that whether it was the Irish or the Poles, or the > Germans, or the Italians, or the Chinese, or the Japanese, or the Mexicans, > or the Kenyans -- whoever showed up, over time, by a second generation, > third generation, those kids are Americans. They do look like us -- > because we don't look one way. We don't all have the same last names, but > we all share a creed and we all share a commitment to the values that > founded this nation. That's who we are. And that is what I believe most > Americans recognize. > > So here’s the bottom line. We've got a very real choice that America faces > right now. We will continue to implement the existing programs that are > already in place. We're not going to be able to move forward with the > expanded programs that we wanted to move forward on because the Supreme > Court was not able to issue a ruling at this stage. And now we've got a > choice about who we’re going to be as a country, what we want to teach our > kids, and how we want to be represented in Congress and in the White House. > > We’re going to have to make a decision about whether we are a people who > tolerate the hypocrisy of a system where the workers who pick our fruit or > make our beds never have the chance to get right with the law -- or whether > we’re going to give them a chance, just like our forebears had a chance, to > take responsibility and give their kids a better future. > > We’re going to have to decide whether we’re a people who accept the cruelty > of ripping children from their parents’ arms > -- or whether we actually value families, and keep them together for the > sake of all of our communities. > > We’re going to have to decide whether we’re a people who continue to > educate the world’s brightest students in our high schools and > universities, only to then send them away to compete against us -- or > whether we encourage them to stay and create new jobs and new businesses > right here in the United States. > > These are all the questions that voters now are going to have to ask > themselves, and are going to have to answer in November. These are the > issues that are going to be debated by candidates across the country -- > both congressional candidates as well as the presidential candidates. And > in November, Americans are going to have to make a decision about what we > care about and who we are. > > I promise you this, though -- sooner or later, immigration reform will get > done. Congress is not going to be able to ignore America forever. It's > not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. And I can say that with > confidence because we've seen our history. We get these spasms of politics > around immigration and fear-mongering, and then our traditions and our > history and our better impulses kick in. That's how we all ended up here. > Because I guarantee you, at some point, every one of us has somebody in our > background who people didn’t want coming here, and yet here we are. > > And that's what’s going to happen this time. The question is, do we do it > in a smart, rational, sensible way -- or we just keep on kicking the can > down the road. I believe that this country deserves an immigration policy > that reflects the goodness of the American people. And I think we're going > to get that. Hopefully, we're going to get that in November. > > All right. I'll take two questions. Two questions. Go ahead. > > Q Thank you. > > THE PRESIDENT: I’ll take two questions. Go ahead. > > Q Thank you. Realistically, what do you see is the risk of deportation > for these more than 4 million people? I mean, you say we can’t deport 11 > million. This is 4 million, and there’s a chunk of time here before > something else -- > > THE PRESIDENT: Well, let me just be very clear. What was unaffected by > today’s ruling -- or lack of a ruling -- is the enforcement priorities that > we’ve put in place. And our enforcement priorities that have been laid out > by Secretary Jeh Johnson at the Department of Homeland Security are pretty > clear: We prioritize criminals. We prioritize gangbangers. We prioritize > folks who have just come in. What we don’t do is to prioritize people > who’ve been here a long time, who are otherwise law-abiding, who have roots > and connections in their communities. > And so those enforcement priorities will continue. > > The work that we’ve done with the DREAM Act kids, those policies remain in > place. So what this has prevented us from doing is expanding the scope of > what we’ve done with the DREAM Act kids. Keep in mind, though, that even > that was just a temporary measure. All it was doing was basically saying > to these kids, you can have confidence that you are not going to be > deported, but it does not resolve your ultimate status. That is going to > require congressional action. > > So, although I’m disappointed by the lack of a decision today by the > Supreme Court, a deadlock, this does not substantially change the status > quo, and it doesn’t negate what has always been the case, which is if we’re > really going to solve this problem effectively, we’ve got to have Congress > pass a law. > > I have pushed to the limits of my executive authority. We now have to have > Congress act. And hopefully, we’re going to have a vigorous debate during > this election -- this is how democracy is supposed to work -- and there > will be a determination as to which direction we go in. > > As I said, over the long term, I’m very confident about the direction this > country will go in because we’ve seen this in the past. If we hadn’t seen > it in the past, America would look very different than it looks today. But > whether we’re going to get this done now, soon, so that this does not > continue to be this divisive force in our politics, and we can get down to > the business of all pulling together to create jobs, and educate our kids, > and protect ourselves from external threats, and do the things that we need > to do to ensure a better future for the next generation, that’s going to be > determined in part by how voters turn out and who they vote for in > November. > > All right. One more question. Go ahead. > > Q Two practical, going-forward questions. Number one, is this going to > -- are you going to be able to do anything more at all for immigrants going > forward in terms of executive action before the election of the next > president? And number two, do you in any way take this as some Republicans > have presented this, as a slap at your use of executive authority, this tie > vote? And will this in any way circumscribe how aggressively or forcefully > you use executive authority for the remainder of your time in office? > > THE PRESIDENT: Okay. On the specifics of immigration, I don’t anticipate > that there are additional executive actions that we can take. We can > implement what we’ve already put in place that is not affected by this > decision. But we have to follow, now, what > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_digest_top> > [grendelreport] Obama Has Issued One Million Muslim Green Cards > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/d813a32f50b8ec24?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>: Jun 28 07:44PM -0400 > > Obama Uses Executive Authority to Delete Stunning Phrase From Oath of > Allegiance > > > http://conservativetribune.com/obama-authority-to-delete-oath/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Huckabee&utm_content=2016-06-28&utm_campaign=manualpost > > By now, we should be used to President Barack Obama exerting his executive > authority <http://conservativetribune.com/executive-action-gun-control/> > every > chance he gets — especially when it comes to the matter of immigration. > > Obama is now allowing legal immigrants seeking citizenship through the > naturalization process to skip an essential part of the Oath of Allegiance > — the part where they pledge to defend America. > > Breitbart > < > http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/25/obama-invites-18-7-million-immigrants-avoid-oath-allegiance-pledge-defend-america/ > > > reported > that immigrants can opt out of the part of the oath where they pledge to > “bear arms on behalf of the United States.” > > They also do not have to cite any specific religious belief that forbids > them to perform military service. > > This particular executive order was enacted in July last year — and > Congress did nothing to stop it. We don’t expect lawmakers to do anything > about it now, either. After all, this is the same Congress that has > betrayed the American people by refusing to ban terrorists > <http://conservativetribune.com/video-cnn-discovers-refugees/> from > entering the federal refugee program. > > In the year ending June 30, 2015, the U.S. welcomed 729,995 legal permanent > residents into full citizenship, according to the Naturalization Fact Sheet > on the US Citizenship and Immigration Service website > <https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/naturalization-fact-sheet>. > > The pledge to help defend America was good enough for them. > > However, Obama’s lackeys at the USCIS think it’s too much to ask of the > estimated 18.7 million legal immigrants eligible for naturalization today — > or the 750,000 who will be naturalized in the coming year. > > This move undermines the very foundations of being an American citizen by > creating a new class of citizens who are not obligated to serve when > America is in need — and that is a dangerous move that puts the country at > risk <http://conservativetribune.com/obama-floods-america-with-diseases/>. > > Once again, Obama has displayed his contempt for America and those who > fought > and died <http://conservativetribune.com/obama-admin-military/> for our > freedom. > > We can only hope this is the last of the president’s unilateral executive > actions that seem intent on destroying our great nation. > > Share this story and let us know what you think about legal immigrants now > being able to bypass an oath to defend America. > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_digest_top> > [grendelreport] Obama Caused Orlando > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/997bfa65d4f3a027?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > plainolamerican <[email protected]>: Jun 28 03:08PM -0700 > > delusional much? > > The Orlando massacre was not a local event, but a global one. It must be > viewed within the context of a series of ISIS attacks in Europe and America > --- > say the zionists trying to force the west to eliminate their enemy. > > > On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:30:50 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_digest_top> > [grendelreport] The untold horrifying tales of Hillary’s time in the White > House > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/63026c2b202324e?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>: Jun 28 05:25PM -0400 > > There has been so much shit coming out for the last 20 years, I can't > imagine more!!! > > > -- > brine > http://brineb.blogspot.com/ > Back to top > <thismessage:/#m_2335616028738480978_m_-968460698604695856_digest_top> > Senate Republicans Call For More Surveillance After Orlando Massacre > <http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/t/bb0925debca3e135?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > plainolamerican < > > -- -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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