This crap is outrageous!  I am so sick of Social Justice Warriors and their
attempt to silence anyone who doesn't subscribe to their ignorant dogma!

I'm listening to BernsieWhuzHisName as I type this, and it's typical far
left Secular Progressive ignorant rhetoric; and a part of the hypocrisy is
that he's endorsing Hil Clinton, who is the epitome of a Goldman Sachs
Globalist/Elitist.

Geesh!  Wake The Hell Up America!



On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:11 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Perhaps the best expression of this viewpoint came last year from Jared
> Polis, a Democratic member of Congress who declared at a Congressional
> hearing
> <http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/10/polis-expel-all-students-accused-of-sexual-assault-video/>
> (to enthusiastic applause from feminists in the audience) that any male on
> a college campus who was accused of rape or sexual assault should be found
> guilty and removed from campus, no matter if he actually was guilty or not.
> Polis said:
>
> If I was running [a private university], I might say, “Well, you know even
> if there’s a 20 to 30 percent chance that it happened, I would want to
> remove this individual.”
>
> He added:
>
> … if there’s 10 people who have been accused, and under a reasonable
> likelihood standard maybe one or two did it, it seems better to get rid of
> all 10 people.---------------
>
> I remember reading this in horror!
>
>
> It's absolutely incredible to me that what the Obama administration has
> done on this matter has not been exposed by the media. Such
> unconstitutional abuses of power should be covered on every so-called
> "news" networks and broadcasts, print, and online forums every day all day
> until they are changed.
>
>
> Here is a good summation of what has happened. I recall reading
> extensively about a year ago. And I recall wondering how ANY mother or
> father of young sons could possibly feel safe sending their sons off to
> college in the absolute madness of "guilty without being allowed to prove
> innocence" environment that has been MANDATED by this radically extreme
> president and the radical lunatics he has appointed in the Departments of
> Education and Justice.
>
>
>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/12/26/the_demise_of_due_process_on_campus_125037.html
>
>
> This is one of two issues that I truly believe if more people knew about
> they'd never vote for a democrat again. The other is the massive social
> engineering BS that Obama's HUD has been up to for 7 years that is rolling
> out right now - 100% under the radar - that of forcing suburbs all over
> America they have deemed "too white" or "too wealthy" to build Section 8
> housing or have federal funding yanked.
>
>
> There is NO doubt in my mind that if we had an honest press in this
> country Obama wouldn't have been elected the first time - let alone the
> second. And Hillary's chance in 2016 would be that of a snowball's chance
> in hell.
>
>
> Trump needs to start exposing this crazy and unconstitutional bs they've
> been up to for years that the mainstream media has helped to hide from the
> people. And he's running out of time to do so!
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 9:48:22 AM UTC-4, MJ wrote:
>>
>>
>> July 11, 2016
>>
>> *Government in the Bedroom: Statism and Rape Culture *By William L.
>> Anderson
>>
>> * Rape Culture Hysteria: Fixing the Damage Done to Men and Women
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Rape-Culture-Hysteria-Fixing-Damage/dp/1533629404?ie=UTF8&adid=02VK8A91GQGT4KWPK1YV&camp=213381&creative=390973&creativeASIN=1533629404&linkCode=as4&ref-refURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lewrockwell.com%2F%3Fpost_type%3Darticle%26p%3D595484%26preview%3Dtrue%26n_preview_id%3D595484%26preview_nonce%3D385c5eb2df&ref_=as_sl_pc_tf_lc&tag=lewrockwell>*,
>> by Wendy McElroy, 276 pages, Vulgus Press, Paperback: $12.66, Kindle: $4.99
>>
>> In 2014 at Brown University, Wendy McElroy debated Jessica Valenti on the
>> issue of so-called rape culture on college campuses. McElroy’s mere
>> presence at Brown sparked outrage, protests, and the creation of a “safe
>> space” for alleged sexual assault “survivors,” who occupied a room that had
>> pillows, coloring books, and videos of puppies frolicking
>> <http://www.browndailyherald.com/2014/11/17/janus-forum-sexual-assault-event-sparks-controversy/>.
>> Yes, there really were coloring books and videos of playful puppies.
>>
>> To prepare students for this obviously traumatic event, Brown President
>> Christina Paxson sent a message to the “Brown Community” that McElroy would
>> be on campus to debate, and while Paxson made sure that everyone knew that
>> *she* did not agree with McElroy’s positions, nonetheless, she was
>> permitting McElroy to appear at Brown. For some Brown students, however,
>> the very fact that someone was permitted on campus to say something that
>> strays from campus orthodoxy was utterly traumatic because it was likely
>> that McElroy would say something that would contradict beliefs held by some 
>> Brown
>> students, and that would be tragic
>> <http://www.browndailyherald.com/2014/11/17/janus-forum-sexual-assault-event-sparks-controversy/>
>> :
>>
>> …multiple students have said they feel the event devalues the experiences
>> of sexual assault survivors on campus and goes against the University’s
>> mission to create a safe and supportive environment for survivors.
>>
>> At least McElroy was permitted to speak, albeit university officials
>> treated her as if she were carrying Ebola, and it is doubtful that Brown
>> students and faculty were willing to learn anything from her. That is too
>> bad, because Wendy McElroy has a lot to say, and she says much of it in her
>> new book, Rape Culture Hysteria: Fixing the Damage Done to Men and Women.
>>
>> Of all of the writers that care to deal with this volatile subject,
>> McElroy is the best by a long shot. If she comes to the table with
>> ideological baggage, it is of the libertarian side that emphasizes
>> non-aggression. If you want to understand what is happening on college
>> campuses, read this book. If you wish to better understand the issues
>> surrounding feminism and its emphasis on declaring we live in a “rape
>> culture,” read this book.
>>
>> If you want to understand what collectivist thinking has done to our
>> perceptions about law and due process, read this book. If you want to
>> understand the importance of individual rights and what they mean to a free
>> society, read this book.
>>
>> Yes, read this book if you wish to receive an education, for McElroy
>> educates the reader throughout this work. Already one of the most
>> circumspect and thoughtful writers on the libertarian scene today, McElroy
>> has demonstrated why she is so highly respected in many circles.
>>
>> As I read through the book, I was reminded early on that everything being
>> discussed revolves around the issue of individual rights versus collective
>> thinking. When McElroy spoke at Brown, the (openly biased) reporter for the 
>> Brown
>> student newspaper described her as “defensive from the outset,”
>> <http://www.browndailyherald.com/2014/11/19/forum-sparks-tense-sexual-assault-debate/>
>> as though being in a room with openly-hostile students and adults who have
>> come to despise individual rights (except their own, of course) would
>> engender personal confidence.
>>
>> In reading the student newspaper account of the debate, one is fascinated
>> by the overwhelming sense that the current generations in academe (and much
>> of politics and law, as well) simply have abandoned the fundamental precept
>> of U.S. law that it should be a mechanism that protects the rights of the
>> innocent. Instead, the law has become a tool by which the government by
>> force applies different standards and rules according to the political
>> standing of the group with which one identifies. An exchange from the Brown
>> University debate, which really was a microcosm of the larger social debate
>> on sexual assault, demonstrates my point:
>>
>> McElroy said rape culture exists in places like parts of Afghanistan
>> where “women are married against their will” and “murdered for men’s honor”
>> but not in North America, where “rape is a crime that’s severely punished.” 
>> What’s
>> more, those who politicize rape and assert the existence of rape culture
>> imply that all men are guilty or that the accused do not deserve due
>> process, McElroy said. It is unacceptable that men can now be
>> disciplined for rape through college hearings based on a preponderance of
>> evidence rather than the traditional criminal justice standard of guilt
>> beyond a reasonable doubt. “Let’s not build justice for women on injustice
>> for men,” McElroy said, closing her talk.
>>
>> Now for Valenti’s point:
>>
>> Valenti never tackled the question of whether a preponderance of evidence
>> or guilt beyond a reasonable doubt should be the standard for conviction of
>> men in college hearings, but she did talk about other aspects of sexual
>> assault as it relates to college campuses, such as the fact that alcohol
>> plays a role in most sexual assault incidents. “Alcohol is not the
>> problem,” Valenti said, chuckling at the notion. “What we need to discuss
>> is the way rapists use alcohol as a weapon to attack and then discredit
>> their victims.” Rapists benefit from others’ insistence that a victim’s
>> inebriation is to blame for his or her assault, she added.
>>
>> McElroy dealt with issues of individual responsibility and due process in
>> order to protect the rights of individuals. Valenti – whose message was
>> very popular with the leftist crowd – ignored due process altogether and
>> then claimed that the binge drinking taking place on campus, which truly is
>> destructive of individuals in so many ways, really has nothing to do with
>> men forcing unwanted sexual contact with women, or at best is irrelevant.
>> Furthermore, McElroy never has claimed that a female being drunk means that
>> if a male rapes her, he does not bear responsibility for his actions, but
>> rather that people who are intoxicated are going to have impaired judgment,
>> and perhaps one should try to stay out of harm’s way.
>>
>> Feminist Distinctions
>>
>> McElroy calls herself an iFeminist, which emphasizes individual rights,
>> and which she notes is based upon the sets of beliefs practiced by early
>> U.S. feminists such as the black abolitionist Sojourner Truth. She writes:
>>
>> As a woman, a feminist, and a survivor of sexual violence, I know the
>> rape culture is a lie that harms women and victims of violence as well as
>> men. It calls itself “justice” but the goal is to impose a specific
>> ideology that legally disadvantages one class of people (white males) in
>> order to benefit others.
>>
>> PC feminism calls itself “diverse” but it wages war upon true diversity
>> which lives or dies in the ability of people to dissent and to make
>> decisions about their own lives. The feminist movement once championed
>> human rights while insisting that people shoulder responsibility for
>> themselves. The current movement is a mockery of its past. If snapping my
>> fingers could reverse the dogma and intolerance, my hands would be numb
>> from overuse.
>>
>> This book really deals with two separate but related issues. The first is
>> the issue of what feminists and President Obama and his colleagues call
>> “rape culture,” which essentially says that there is an “epidemic” of rape
>> in the USA, and especially on college campuses, where allegedly 25 percent
>> of all women are raped. On that, McElroy writes:
>>
>> Common sense can seem powerless against such crusading fear. More
>> plausible findings on the rate of sexual assault are dismissed in favor of
>> ones that cause a rush of righteous anger. Professors do not listen to
>> logic but to the inner voice of caution about their own job security. It is
>> useless to point out that no business or institution could survive if 20%
>> of its customers were raped while using its services. Who would walk into
>> Walmart if 1-in-4 shoppers would be sexually attacked in the aisles? But
>> rape culture critics who raise such objections find that their characters
>> become the topic of debate rather than the facts of rape.
>>
>> Her second task is to try to save feminism itself, or at least influence
>> people to move feminism in a different direction than toward increased
>> state control over the lives of others. These are not mutually-exclusive
>> things.
>>
>> Throughout the book, McElroy uses reliable data and valid statistical
>> measures to demonstrate conclusively that the “one in four” or “one in
>> five” statistics used to claim huge percentages of women on college
>> campuses are raped, but also admits that hardcore leftist feminists are
>> likely to claim that none of this matters, since they already have
>> “established” that the USA has a “rape culture.” It is “heads I win and
>> tails you lose” thinking but it really works.
>>
>> For example, when the infamous Duke Lacrosse Case and the faux “rape of
>> Jackie” tale at the University of Virginia fell apart, feminists claimed to
>> be alarmed, since, in their view debunking the accusations would mean that
>> fewer women who actually were raped would come forward to report the
>> assaults. To the left, since the “rape culture” narrative already is
>> established, it does not matter if an individual accused actually did it,
>> so anything that might convince others that perhaps the narrative is false
>> – like a person accused of rape actually being found innocent of the
>> charges – must not be permitted.
>>
>> Perhaps the best expression of this viewpoint came last year from Jared
>> Polis, a Democratic member of Congress who declared at a Congressional
>> hearing
>> <http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/10/polis-expel-all-students-accused-of-sexual-assault-video/>
>> (to enthusiastic applause from feminists in the audience) that any male on
>> a college campus who was accused of rape or sexual assault should be found
>> guilty and removed from campus, no matter if he actually was guilty or not.
>> Polis said:
>>
>> If I was running [a private university], I might say, “Well, you know
>> even if there’s a 20 to 30 percent chance that it happened, I would want to
>> remove this individual.”
>>
>> He added:
>>
>> … if there’s 10 people who have been accused, and under a reasonable
>> likelihood standard maybe one or two did it, it seems better to get rid of
>> all 10 people.
>>
>> While Polis later claimed he “misspoke,” it is clear judging from what he
>> said and from the enthusiastic response it received that collectivist
>> thinking is alive and well in Congress and on the college campus. This
>> latter point is important because in most cases it is imperative that the
>> libertarians and the statists are not on the same planet when it comes to
>> rights.
>>
>> Libertarians like McElroy understand that if authorities enforce what
>> only could be called “collective rights,” (and this would involve a very
>> different notion of the concept of “rights” than what has undergirded U.S.
>> law), then all legal outcomes would depend on totally upon the politics of
>> the situation. For example, after the accused Duke Lacrosse players were
>> declared “innocent” by North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper, a local
>> Marxist claimed that the players were guilty because, in her view,
>> “capitalism” is advanced by rape.
>>
>> Thus, we see McElroy deal both with the real-live facts of sexual assault
>> and rape and also undergird her arguments by emphasizing the need for due
>> process for people who are accused because, at their very heart, rights are
>> individual, not collective. As I read the book, I realized that it was
>> vital that she dealt with this latter point, since libertarians and
>> collectivists have very different ideas on what the outcomes should be. All
>> too often, I believe, we libertarians want to believe that people on the
>> “other side” want fairness and just outcomes.
>>
>> However, we then should realize that the Jared Polises of the world see
>> “just” outcomes as being the championing of a certain point of view, and if
>> innocent people are swept up in the hysteria, so be it, since no male is
>> truly innocent. If one wishes to make an omelet, after all, first one must
>> break some eggs, to repeat what champions of communism in the former Soviet
>> Union said when justifying Stalin’s murderous purges.
>>
>> Read this book for many reasons. Read it to gain new insights on what
>> actual scientific research says about sexual assaults on college campuses.
>> Read it to learn the arguments that collectivist feminists use to justify
>> their statements. And read it to once again understand the importance of
>> individual rights and the perils that await us when those rights are taken
>> away.
>>
>> Advocates of abortion on demand often claim that they support the
>> pro-choice position because they do not want “government in the bedroom.”
>> However, as the government moves to monitor campus sexual activity through
>> the U.S. Department of Education and through other governmental
>> initiatives, it is very clear that what we now have, according to New
>> York Times
>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-regulating-sex.html?_r=0>
>>  writer
>> Judith Shulevitz
>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-regulating-sex.html?_r=0>,
>> is state regulation of sex. If this is not the very example of “government
>> in the bedroom,” then one would think that there should be no limits to the
>> power government should have over us, including down to our relationship
>> choices. In warning us that the loss of individual rights leads to outright
>> tyranny, Wendy McElroy has performed an important service to her readers.
>> Thus, I emphasize, read this book.
>>
>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/william-l-anderson/government-sex/
>>
> --
> --
> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
>
> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/
> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls.
> * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
>
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "PoliticalForum" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to [email protected].
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
-- 
Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum

* Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/  
* It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. 
* Read the latest breaking news, and more.

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"PoliticalForum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to