Hitting wedding parties in Afghanistan is not winning the war there- the civilian deaths in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan are costly no matter who is our president.
On Nov 6, 3:20�am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In his speech Tuesday, Obama reiterated his commitment to Bush's "war > on terror," which has been used as a pretext to assert the geo- > political interests of America's ruling elite in energy-rich regions > of the world. He issued a warning to "those who would tear this world > down--we will defeat you." > > Obama also repeated the threadbare claim that US troops had been sent > to Iraq and Afghanistan to "risk their lives for us," that is, to > protect the American people rather than advance the interests of the > American capitalist class. He called for a "new spirit of service, a > new spirit of sacrifice"--a reference to some form of military > conscription. > > Just as on economic policy, the next administration will inevitably > clash with voters who thought the election of a Democratic president > would lead to an end to the military aggression of the Bush years. > Once again the Democrats are moving to dampen these expectations by > reasserting their opposition to a "precipitous" withdrawal from Iraq > and the need to escalate the "right war" in Afghanistan. > > On Nov 5, 11:00�pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > bush / McCain wants to keep us there until 2011 at the earliest > > > On Nov 5, 6:53�am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 16 months, he backed out of that over 6 months ago. > > > > On Nov 5, 10:53�pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > He is bringing no one home, the only thing he is bringing back is the > > > > draft for god sake. Its more war not less war. Afghanistan, Pakistan, > > > > Iran. Obama said he will work in consultation with the military > > > > regarding troop numbers, famous last words > > > > > Politicians lie for a living, the best liars get the best job. Thats > > > > why Obama is president. You will find out soon enough. > > > > > On Nov 5, 9:36�pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Troops hope Obama brings them home > > > > > responsiblyhttp://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4A441P20081105?feedType... > > > > > BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Watching election results that showed Barack > > > > > Obama > > > > > would be their new commander-in-chief, U.S. soldiers in Iraq said > > > > > they > > > > > hoped he would fulfill his promise to bring them home quickly and > > > > > responsibly. > > > > > > Breakfast was already being served in Baghdad on Wednesday morning > > > > > when Tuesday's polls closed back home, and at Forward Operating Base > > > > > Prosperity all eyes in the 2nd Brigade Combat Team of the 101st > > > > > Airborne were on the dining hall's giant TVs. > > > > > > Someone whooped when NBC called the election, but mostly the troops > > > > > sat in rapt silence, eyeing their new president while eating their > > > > > eggs. > > > > > > "What soldier's going to say they don't want to go home? I have a > > > > > wife > > > > > and four kids. I want to go home. But one thing we all want is to > > > > > make > > > > > sure the friends we lost over here weren't for nothing," said Captain > > > > > Ryan Morrison, from Colorado Springs. > > > > > > "We have to pull out responsibly. I have the feeling he wants to do > > > > > it > > > > > responsibly," he said. > > > > > > Obama has pledged to pull U.S. combat troops out of Iraq within 16 > > > > > months of taking office, a promise that seemed bold when he first > > > > > made > > > > > it last year but now coincides roughly with the timetable favored by > > > > > Iraq's government. > > > > > > "I'm excited. He's going to be president and he's going to pull us > > > > > from over here," said Sergeant First Class Norman Brown. > > > > > > "If McCain had won we'd be over here for years, and I mean years and > > > > > years. I reckon even people here don't want us here." > > > > > > With levels of violence falling -- last month saw the fewest violent > > > > > deaths among both Iraqi civilians and U.S. troops since the war began > > > > > -- Iraqis increasingly express their hope that the force of more than > > > > > 150,000 U.S. troops can leave soon. > > > > > > "I as an Iraqi am asking Obama to keep his promises about the > > > > > withdrawal of the U.S. security forces from our land," said Baqi > > > > > Naqid, a Baghdad journalist. "We don't need an occupation." > > > > > > IRAQI GOVERNMENT NEGOTIATES WITHDRAWAL > > > > > > The Iraqi government is negotiating a security pact with the outgoing > > > > > administration of President George W. Bush that would require U.S. > > > > > troops to exit by the end of 2011. But some Iraqis still fear > > > > > violence > > > > > may return if U.S. troops leave too rapidly. > > > > > > "They came on a mission. They should complete it. There should be 100 > > > > > percent security before they leave," said Baghdad housewife Um Saba, > > > > > 58. She said she preferred the Republicans for supporting an increase > > > > > of troops last year that she credited with helping to curb violence. > > > > > > Among U.S. troops, political loyalties were divided and debate > > > > > spirited during the long campaign. African American soldiers > > > > > described > > > > > Obama's victory as inspirational. > > > > > > "It gives me hope that anybody can accomplish anything no matter what > > > > > your race, color or creed," said Los Angeles native Staff Sergeant > > > > > Andre Frazier, adding he hoped it would improve the U.S. image > > > > > abroad. �Continued...- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
