Actually, I've seen democrats on television actively claim that Trump
supporters are violent, bigoted racists. Not to mention, they simply can't
help themselves from claiming they're all uneducated (even though primary
exit polling showed them to be more educated and wealthier than the average
voter - and FAR more of both than Hillary's voters).
I find that fascinating. Because I remembered them doing the exact same
thing to the Tea Party from the very beginning of the Tea Party. I'd gone
to a rally down at our Statehouse that April 15 of the first year ('09?)
and I was absolutely shocked at the wide variety of people in attendance.
They had several speakers, and not one of them failed to condemn BOTH
democrats and republicans for spending too damn much money and growing
government out of control. Every. Single. One.
So imagine my surprise to see within a couple of weeks, filthy democrats on
tv claiming The Tea Party is a bunch of uneducated racists.
They've been doing this shit for years. And you're right, their chickens
are finally coming home to roost.
When a renowned Harvard sociologist actually studied the Tea Party, he
published his findings. Turns out they were not only more wealthy, but more
educated than the average voter. You sure didn't see that covered by the
legions of reporters who'd claimed otherwise for a year. Remember that
reporter on CNN in Chicago attacking people at a Tea Party rally? They had
to fire her when the tapes of what she'd done came out. One middle-aged
lady laid that bitch to shame that day, it was spectacular..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hx_4mBZBjk
But in the meantime, with almost all of the media and the IRS viciously
attacking the Tea Party, they've kind of faded away in a few short years.
Now they're all Trump voters, as they hated the establishment politicians 8
years ago (from both sides).
On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 11:10:47 PM UTC-4, gtheist957 wrote:
>
> I think that by labeling republicans in this manner that they have labeled
> the Republican supporters to be the same. And it's now blowing up in their
> faces. Don't be surprised to see them bring out some puppies that a
> Republican candidate allegedly abused
>
> On Sep 2, 2016 9:20 PM, "'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum" <
> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/opinion/campaign-stops/crying-wolf-then-confronting-trump.html?_r=0
>>
>> The Opinion Pages <http://www.nytimes.com/section/opinion/campaign-stops>
>> | Campaign Stops <http://www.nytimes.com/section/opinion/campaign-stops>
>> Crying
>> Wolf, Then Confronting Trump
>>
>> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/frank_bruni/index.html>
>>
>>
>> Frank Bruni <http://www.nytimes.com/column/frank-bruni> SEPT. 1, 2016
>>
>> Credit Damon Winter/The New York Times
>>
>> Conservative commentators and die-hard Republicans often brush off
>> denunciations of Donald Trump as an unprincipled hatemonger by saying:
>> Yeah, yeah, that’s what Democrats wail about every Republican they’re
>> trying to take down. Sing me a song I haven’t heard so many times before.
>>
>>
>> Howard Wolfson would be outraged by that response if he didn’t recognize
>> its aptness.
>>
>>
>> “There’s enough truth to it to compel some self-reflection,” Wolfson, who
>> was the communications director for Hillary Clinton’s presidential bid in
>> 2008, told me this week.
>>
>> In fact, he finds himself thinking about it a whole lot: how extreme the
>> put-downs of political adversaries have become; how automatically
>> combatants adopt postures of unalloyed outrage; what this means when they
>> come upon a crossroads — and a candidate — of much greater, graver danger.
>>
>>
>> “I worked on the presidential campaign in 2004,” he said, referring to
>> John Kerry’s contest against George W. Bush. He added that he was also
>> “active in discussing” John McCain when he ran for the presidency in 2008
>> and Mitt Romney in 2012. “And I’m quite confident I employed language that,
>> in retrospect, was hyperbolic and inaccurate, language that cheapened my
>> ability — our ability — to talk about this moment with accuracy and
>> credibility.”
>>
>>
>> Did Democrats cry wolf so many times before Trump that no one hears or
>> heeds them now?
>>
>>
>> That’s a question being asked with increasing frequency, though mostly in
>> conservative circles and publications. An essay by Jonah Goldberg in
>> National Review
>> <http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438349/media-helps-trumps-image-because-they-cry-wolf-all-republicans>
>>
>> in late July had this headline: “How the Media’s History of Smearing
>> Republicans Now Helps Trump.”
>>
>>
>> In Commentary, Noah Rothman has repeatedly examined
>> <https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/the-gall-of-dems-mitt-romney-nostalgia/>
>>
>> this subject. He wrote back in March
>> <https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/left-disarmed-racism-charge/>
>>
>> that when “honorable and decent men” like McCain and Romney “are
>> reflexively dubbed racists simply for opposing Democratic policies, the
>> result is a G.O.P. electorate that doesn’t listen to admonitions when the
>> genuine article is in their midst.”
>>
>>
>> “Today,” he added, “they point and shout ‘racist’ into the void, but
>> Democrats only have themselves to blame for the fact that so many on the
>> right are no longer listening.”
>>
>>
>> I think he’s being more than a bit disingenuous about the potential
>> receptiveness of the right — or the left — to anything that the other side
>> says in this polarized, partisan age. There hasn’t been all that much
>> listening for some time.
>>
>>
>> Also, the Democratic condemnations of McCain and Romney weren’t as
>> widespread and operatic as the ones of Trump.
>>
>> And this is a two-way street. Republicans paint a broad spectrum of
>> Democrats as socialist kooks, and Obama has been as strong a magnet for
>> hyperbole as any politician in my lifetime. Let us not forget Dinesh
>> D’Souza’s 2010 book “The Roots of Obama’s Rage,” or Newt Gingrich’s
>> assertion
>> <http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2010/09/12/what_was_newt_gingrich_talking_about.html>
>>
>> that “only if you understand Kenyan, anticolonial behavior” can you grasp
>> Obama’s method of governing, or Trump’s insistence that Obama produce his
>> American birth certificate.
>>
>>
>> The sad truth is that we conduct the bulk of our political debate in a
>> key of near-hysteria. And this renders complaints of discrepant urgency,
>> about politicians of different recklessness, into one big, ignorable mush
>> of partisan rancor.
>>
>>
>> What stands out in this presidential campaign aren’t the alarms that
>> Democrats are sounding about the Republican nominee but the ones that an
>> unusual number of Republican defectors are. *That’s *what’s unfamiliar.
>> And that’s what’s wounding Trump.
>>
>>
>> Democrats were indeed dire about Romney, even though many of them,
>> including President Obama, now speak of him fondly
>> <https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/08/02/read-obama-calls-trump-unfit/yqjtDEDodrJNMxPRxycR0J/story.html>,
>>
>> as a Republican whose prescriptions might be flawed but whose heart is true.
>>
>>
>> Four years ago, he was a bloodsucking capitalist vampire whose indictment
>> of Obamacare was ipso facto proof of his racism. In The Daily Beast, he was
>> called
>> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/12/michael-tomasky-on-mitt-romney-the-race-baiter-at-the-naacp.html>
>>
>> a “race-mongering pyromaniac.” On MSNBC, he was accused
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjAqt58pXbY>, by a black commentator,
>> of the “niggerization” of Obama into “the scary black man who we’ve been
>> trained to fear.”
>>
>>
>> Romney was supposedly out of touch with reality — never mind that he had
>> governed a blue state, Massachusetts, without cataclysmic incident — just
>> as McCain was described
>> <http://www.infowars.com/john-mccain-is-an-unstable-hot-headed-liar-unfit-to-be-president/>,
>>
>> in some quarters <http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/1/648861/->, as
>> a combustible hothead who couldn’t be allowed anywhere near the nuclear
>> codes. He was Trump before Trump, which makes Trump less Trump.
>>
>>
>> And those are just the presidential candidates. Plenty of other
>> Republicans have confronted charges of florid racism and incipient fascism
>> that apply to some of them infinitely better than to others. Gradations
>> disappear. Distinctions vanish.
>>
>>
>> Important words are hollowed out, so that they lose their precision and
>> their sting, and exist mainly to perpetuate a paralyzing climate of
>> reciprocal hatred between political parties.
>>
>>
>> After Clinton’s 2008 campaign, Wolfson went on to work for New York City
>> Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a Democrat who became a Republican and then an
>> independent. He’s still in the former mayor’s employ, as a senior adviser.
>>
>>
>> That’s the vantage point from which he has watched Trump’s ascent, and
>> from which he’s making some crucial observations.
>>
>>
>> “It’s only when you find yourself describing someone who really is the
>> definition of an extremist — who really is, essentially, in my opinion, a
>> fascist — that you recognize that the language that you’ve used in the past
>> to describe other people was hyperbolic and inappropriate and cheap,”
>> Wolfson said.
>>
>>
>> “It doesn’t mean that you somehow retrospectively agree with their
>> positions on issues,” he added. “But when the system confronts an actual,
>> honest-to-God menace, it should compel some rethinking on our part about
>> how we describe people who are far short of that.”
>>
>>
>> “We should take stock of this moment,” he said, “and recognize that our
>> language really needs to be more accountable and more appropriate to the
>> circumstances.” I hope we do.
>>
>>
>>
>> *------------------*I was ticked to read this only to find out it was
>> from yesterday, and that comments were shut off after 166 of them (usually
>> there's over a thousand).
>>
>> What I was wanting to say was this...
>>
>> It's fascinating to see dems grasp that most non-democrats have seen the
>> vicious (and false) attacks of republican candidates every 4 years, and
>> that these attacks are now officially meaningless. That they admit that
>> even they knew they were being shameless, lying dirtbags when making those
>> accusations (to a NYT reporter, no less) is stunning.
>>
>> As I read this article, I was reminded of many of the most vicious
>> attacks we've seen heaped on moderate republicans in the recent past that
>> went unmentioned. A classic example was the commercial and the public
>> appearances that went on throughout the 2008 campaign blaming Mitt Romney
>> for the fact that a man's wife died of cancer. It was part of the "vulture
>> capitalist" attacks on Romney. The company he'd worked for (Bain Capital)
>> had purchased a steel company, and then closed that facility down. One of
>> the former workers was an angry, lying scumbag named Joe Soptic. Joe was
>> given up to two years of insurance coverage after the plant closed. Joe's
>> wife worked at a job that provided insurance, but she hurt her shoulder and
>> left the job. As a result of her injury and leaving her job that provided
>> insurance, she was uninsured when she was diagnosed with cancer FIVE YEARS
>> after the plant closure. The disgusting democrats (using Priorities USA, a
>> SuperPAC headed up by former Obama operative Bill Burton) put out an ad
>> blaming her death on Mitt Romney.
>>
>> When democrats were called upon to denounce that disgusting attack on
>> Mitt Romney (by the one or two media outlets who asked them to do so), none
>> would.
>>
>> That was, in my opinion, the finest example of just how dishonest and
>> deceitful democrats will stoop to win an election. And they couldn't care
>> less the incredible harm they do to those left in their wake. It is because
>> of that very kind of predictable behavior from the left in every election
>> season that thinking people not only don't listen to democrats, but
>> actively disbelieve whatever they say. I know, because I fall into that
>> category.
>>
>> This entire article appears to me to be one of sheer desperation on
>> behalf of democrats. They see that people are finally onto them. And in a
>> not-so-transparent but desperate effort to paint Trump in the same
>> dishonest light they've painted countless other republicans in the past,
>> they create this incredible sob story that attempts to apologize for all of
>> the horrific things they did to McCain and Romney, and why? Because
>> according to these same admitted liars, Trump really is a fascist and would
>> lead to the end of the world. And somehow, the stupid American voters
>> they've laughed at for years are supposed to believe them just this one
>> last time.
>>
>> **If you need a reminder of this pathetic lie the democrats used against
>> Romney, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b1g07uq4y8 (Mitt
>> Romney killed my wife)
>> If you want to see a hilarious and better version of that same video,
>> here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPMTVm3GEyo (Barack Obama
>> killed my wife)
>>
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