But it's representational Brine! I can see that we just disagree....I think we're saying the same thing; you just don't like our "Republican/Constitutional Democracy" form of government; and would prefer a more " Athenian/Direct Democracy" style form of government.
I disagree. On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 3:41 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > They already have more votes Keith!!! Look it up!!! In NJ the electoral > college is a cronyism appointment, the party bosses pick them, the people > do not get to vote for them!!! > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I think everyone understands how the electoral college works Brine, >> we're just not all that enthused to allow California and New York so much >> more say in the election of our President, which is exactly what you're >> advocating for. >> >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You OBVIOUSLY do not understand the Electroral College ... it is based >>> on population density, just like Congressional Districts ... California has >>> far more Electoral votes than Rhode Island ... the only socialist/everybody >>> gets the same deal is the Senate ... 2 from every state ... are you unaware >>> of how Congress works and by extension the outdated Electoral Congress??? I >>> assume you have access to the internets ... look it up!!! >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:06 PM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> so you think it's fair for large metropolitan areas that are >>>> perpetually broke or operating under huge deficits should be setting tax >>>> policies for the rest of the country because they have huge populations. >>>> that's ludicrous and naive. >>>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2016 4:53 PM, "Brian Bednarek" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We still are a republic as long as there is Congress ... they are >>>>> there to vote our proxy ... I just think that the electoral College is >>>>> outdated in a modern world with instant information!!! >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And as I stated, I am still disappointed in you! (For what ever >>>>>> that's worth! <Grin>!) No matter, it's all good, and we will continue >>>>>> to >>>>>> disagree with your belief that we become a Democracy versus a >>>>>> Constitutional Republic thank you very much! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Reality is that the electoral college is based on how many >>>>>>> representatives you have in Congress, so it is redundant, it is based on >>>>>>> how many people live in a region ... I just think its time has passed a >>>>>>> lone time ago!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn't want Hillary to win nor Trump, but I knew it was going to >>>>>>> be one of them ... both make me unhappy ... I had ballot questions and >>>>>>> school board as well on election day, so I HAD to vote and as I stated >>>>>>> before I was NOT voting for either of them!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:31 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just look at the democrats calling for "majority rules" government >>>>>>>> (or "MOB rules", take your pick) after spending 6 decades buying >>>>>>>> dependence >>>>>>>> on government that pretty much ensures a voting majority. Gee, that >>>>>>>> isn't >>>>>>>> predictable at all, right? They've done it with blacks for decades and >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> now moved on to enslave illegals and to legalize them - all for power >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> with total disregard to the fact it destroys the country and its LEGAL >>>>>>>> citizens. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's just like a liberal to try to silence the voices entirely of >>>>>>>> those with whom they disagree. I, for one, will thoroughly enjoy >>>>>>>> telling >>>>>>>> them to STFU for at least the next four years and reminding them that >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> are the LOSERS now; it's official. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 8:31:43 AM UTC-5, gtheist957 >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brian you live in one of the mega metropolitan areas that would >>>>>>>>> determine how the rest of the country would have to live . If the >>>>>>>>> electoral >>>>>>>>> college were to be done away with. we are 50 sovereign states >>>>>>>>> remember!!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2016 6:12 AM, "Brian Bednarek" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 13 colonies/states were a lot different than the current 50 we >>>>>>>>>> have, a far more agricultural country and news didn't move all that >>>>>>>>>> fast >>>>>>>>>> compared to the instant 24 hour news we live with now!!! ... I still >>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>> that popular vote should be the way, but I don't expect that to ever >>>>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>>> in my lifetime >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Five times in our 240 year history. And no, I am opposed to a >>>>>>>>>>> popular vote, and not because of the outcome.....Our Framers knew >>>>>>>>>>> what they >>>>>>>>>>> were doing, and the purpose is to keep a balance between the >>>>>>>>>>> several States! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As I just wrote in another group: For the first time in years, >>>>>>>>>>> I feel reinvigorated and once again have faith in my Nation and >>>>>>>>>>> fellow >>>>>>>>>>> Americans! I am once again excited about our National prospects! I >>>>>>>>>>> genuinely believe that Trump can start the process of getting this >>>>>>>>>>> Nation >>>>>>>>>>> back on track, become a unifer, restore national pride, and get the >>>>>>>>>>> (Purposely!) stagnant economy rip-roaring! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not that I wanted Hillary to win, but this sorta shows how the >>>>>>>>>>>> popular vote really should be the way to determine the outcome of >>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>> election in modern times ... how many times has the popular vote >>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>> usurped by the electoral votes ... I have been on record as being >>>>>>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>>>>>> President-Elect trump as well, but he will get the standard 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> months of >>>>>>>>>>>> "let's see what you can do" that I have given all the Presidents >>>>>>>>>>>> in my >>>>>>>>>>>> adult voting years ... FYI, none were able to get beyond 6 months >>>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>> my personal scorn was raised!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hil won the popular vote I think by 219K; currently the >>>>>>>>>>>>> electoral count is 279- 228 in favor of Trump, but Arizona and >>>>>>>>>>>>> Michigan has >>>>>>>>>>>>> not been awarded yet; and Trump looks to have won both. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:14 PM, geoffrey theist < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A question . Was the popular vote that close? Or did we come >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out in such "yuge" numbers that we stayed ahead of the ballot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuffing by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dems? Just asking. I stayed up until I heard that Donald had >>>>>>>>>>>>>> won. in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012 I went to bed with Romney leading and woke up to four more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> years of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barack. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2016 12:36 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a beautiful thing! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *"Keith In Tampa" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *"PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 9, 2016 1:09:23 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Winning! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The distinction between the Midtown Hilton Hotel (Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victory Hall) versus the Javitz Center in Midtown Manhatten >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last night/this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Versus: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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