Hey Brine!

I understand your train of thought, but in my humble opinion, that's really
simplifying it way too much.....It's much more complicated than that, and
our involvement, (which was admittedly misguided on a number of levels and
events) forecloses that option today.  "*Hijrah*"; is a very real concept.
A concept that has been planned, organized and is now being orchestrated
throughout Western societies and our culture.

As much as I would like to agree with you; and at one time I did agree with
the isolationist concept;  I don't believe that this option is on the table
any longer.

*Hegira or Hijrah*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegira

*4 Stages of Islamic Conquest*
https://civilusdefendus.wordpress.com/civil-defense/4-stages-of-islamic-conquest/

*Muslim Invasion of Europe*
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6721/muslim-invasion-europe

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote:

> I understand war is hell, that is why I am against war!!! The neverending
> war on terror is a different type of war no clear enemy, no one country, no
> uniforms ... how do you tell who the enemy is???
>
> I think we should leave the region and let them kill themselves, being
> involved only makes more terrorists and hatred for America!!!
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> No; and I don't believe that there's anything in my response that would
>> have led you to have assumed that I want to kill everyone in the Middle
>> East.
>>
>> My point is that, "War Is Hell"; and many Americans don't have the
>> stomach for it.  They can't see the "Big Picture"; and the thought that
>> there could be collateral damage in a campaign is unacceptable to them.
>> They are in fact weak, and not who we, as a Nation need to have in charge
>> of our defense, or our offensive military campaigns.
>>
>> With all due respect, I put you in this category.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> So Keith, you are saying kill everyone in the Middle East!!! Sounds like
>>> a plan, let's see how it works out!!!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And you just proved and established that "The Old Leatherneck" was
>>>> correct in his assessment Brine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The problem with the terrorists like Isis is that they are not a
>>>>> nation they are a group with people from lots of nations swear loyalty and
>>>>> killing locals in whatever country they are in ... do you kill every 
>>>>> person
>>>>> in the Middle East to get the bad guys??? Too bad we need the oil .. I
>>>>> would say we should leave the entire region and let them kill 
>>>>> themselves!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 6:56 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Tell it like it is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a very good perspective of our fight against ISI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *The Will to Win*
>>>>>> Unless you are willing to be as unreasonable and as brutal, as your
>>>>>> enemy, do not engage him in a conflict -- because he will win.This old
>>>>>> leatherneck says it better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Description: cid:3571293879_4944410]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quote from a WWII veteran overhearing someone say that `You can't
>>>>>> bomb an ideology.":
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The hell you can't, because we did it. These Muslims are no
>>>>>> different than the Imperial Japanese."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Japs had their suicide bombers too. And we stopped them. What it
>>>>>> takes is the resolve and will to use a level of brutality and violence 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> your generations can't stomach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And until you can, this shit won't stop. It took us on the beaches
>>>>>> with bullets, clearing out caves with flame throwers, and men like
>>>>>> Le-May burning down their cities, killing people by the tens of
>>>>>> thousands. And then it took 2 atom bombs on top of it. Plus we had to 
>>>>>> bomb
>>>>>> the shit out of German cities to get them to quit fighting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, if that was what it took to win, we were willing to do it. Until
>>>>>> you are willing to do the same...well I hope you enjoy this shit, because
>>>>>> it ain't going to stop!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Back then, we had leadership, resolve, resources and determination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today we're afraid to hurt people's feelings....and worry about which
>>>>>> bathroom to piss in!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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