Fwd: [PoliticalForum] The sheer irony of it all

Mon, 03 Apr 2017 10:10:21 -0700 



I'm tired of this ignorance.....remember Hillary was the sure winner of  
the election....no one doubted that  including the Russians. So it was in  the 
Russians favor to play kissy face with Hillary and not the sure looser  
Trump.....come on folks just plain common sense.....not all this liberal BS  
twisting and turning facts to distort the truth.....Oh, when will they ever  
learn?
 
 
  
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The Mexican government openly admits to spending  millions of dollars to 
influence U.S. elections; a Mexican billionaire owns  the most influential 
U.S. media outlet (NYT); the Mexican government spends  tens of millions to 
lobby congress; and the Mexican government has dedicated  $50 million to pay 
for U.S. legal services to keep illegal aliens from being  returned to Mexico; 
yet somehow it’s the Russian government that is a  concern. 



Where's the "#FakeNews/Mainstream Media" outcry?   Why don't the 
"Socialists/Communists/Democrats/Euwetopians" have their  drawers all up in a 
wad over 
Mexican interference?


On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:

I have no doubts that Russia spies on us and leaked stuff, we  do the same 
to them ... I also really don't believe that it made a  difference in 
Hillary losing, she was a bad choice!!!


 

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Kamakazee <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:


As the US news sees it, Trumpco is a disaster, it's collapsing,  it's 
catastrophic I tell you!  A failed administration less than 3  months into it.


Why?


Russian connections!  Russia caused the election to be stolen  from 
Hillary.  Russia colluded with Trump.  Russia  hacked!


But wait.  Whilst it's generally recognized that there were  Russias that 
gleefully posted (true and untrue) anti-Hillary information  on the web, 
there has been zero proof that any of it actually altered  the election.  
Definitely no vote tabulation manipulation or  altering of the counts. What is 
not 
being said, is that the  majority of the posting were purely for financial 
gains, no political  malfeasance intended.  People hate Hillary and want to 
have  their hate nurtured.   Advertisers want to get their products  in 
front of these people---there is money to be made.


So what the Dems are left holding onto, after the smoke  cleared, is the 
possibility that voters' opinions were changed by said  postings, which 
assumes those (damn millennial white women) are too  stupid to know the truth.


But the ironic part comes into play when you take these allegations  and 
apply them to our US press.  Russian fake news changed the  election?  What 
about US fake news trying to  undermine TrumpCo?  Whether its the false claim 
that Trump  gave Merkel a bill for Germany's NATO expenses or the fake 
Russian  dossier, the US fake press is the Russian fake press on  steroids.   
But 
of course, the US pressers claim the opposite,  and by God, Russia just 
ripped the heart out of our  democracy.  While they shit on it.


PS.  Not even to begin to describe all the foreign  elections (Israeli, 
Brexit, etc..etc...) we've tried to influence just  in the last couple years.   

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