Already one third of the first $125billion of bailout funds went
straight into the pockets of Wall St Parasites. Way to go USA

Bonuses for Wall Street Should Go to Zero, U.S. Taxpayers Say

By Christine Harper

Nov. 11 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. taxpayers, who feel they own a stake in
Wall Street after funding a $700 billion bailout for the industry,
don't want executives' bonuses reduced. They want them eliminated.

``I may not understand everything, but I do understand common sense,
and when you lend money to someone, you don't want to see them at a
new-car dealer the next day,'' said Ken Karlson, a 61-year-old Vietnam
veteran and freelance marketer in Wheaton, Illinois. ``The bailout
money shouldn't have been given to them in the first place.''

Compensation at Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Morgan Stanley, Citigroup
Inc. and the six other banks that received the first $125 billion of
the federal funds is under scrutiny by lawmakers, including Rep. Henry
Waxman, a California Democrat, and New York Attorney General Andrew
Cuomo, also a Democrat. President-elect Barack Obama cited the program
at his first news conference on Nov. 7, saying it will be reviewed to
make sure it's ``not unduly rewarding the management of financial
firms receiving government assistance.''

While year-end rewards are likely to decline with a drop in revenue
this year, industry veterans say that eliminating them risks driving
away the firms' most productive workers.

``There are instances where bonuses are justified, deserved, and in
the best interests of the investment bank involved,'' said Dan Lufkin,
a co-founder of Donaldson Lufkin & Jenrette Inc., the investment bank
acquired by Credit Suisse Group AG in 2000. ``Your very best people
are people you want to hold, and your very best people will have
opportunities even in this environment to transfer allegiance.''

`Your Jaw Drops'

The companies, which set aside revenue throughout the year to pay
bonuses, haven't commented on plans for year-end awards, typically
decided this month or next. A study released last week said the firms
are likely to cut bonuses for top executives by as much as 70
percent.

``Even really sober people are saying this is the worst financial
crisis since the Depression, and they're saying bonuses are just going
to be reduced?'' said Patrick Amo, a 53-year-old retired merchant
marine in Seattle. ``Oh my God, you read that and your jaw drops.''

Wall Street firms' pay has traditionally been tied closely to
performance of the companies, which is why employees receive most of
their compensation at the end of the year after final results are
known. Depending on seniority and performance, bonuses for traders,
bankers and executives can be a multiple of their salaries, which
range from about $80,000 to $600,000.

Blankfein's $67.9 Million

The nine banks that Waxman pressed to detail their bonus plans asked
for more time to respond, according to his spokeswoman, Karen
Lightfoot. She said they've been granted an additional two weeks. The
original deadline was yesterday.

Goldman, the largest and most profitable U.S. securities firm in the
world last year, paid Chief Executive Officer Lloyd Blankfein a record
$67.9 million bonus for 2007 on top of his $600,000 salary. That was
justified, he told shareholders at the company's annual meeting in
April, because of Goldman's superior financial results.

``We're very much a performance-related firm,'' he said. ``If those
results don't come in, I assure you at Goldman Sachs you won't see
that compensation.''

Goldman's profit is down 47 percent so far this year and five analysts
expect the company to report its first loss as a public company in the
fourth quarter that ends this month. The stock price has dropped 67
percent this year and Goldman received $10 billion from the U.S.
government in the bailout last month. Michael DuVally, a spokesman for
Goldman Sachs in New York, declined to comment on the company's plans
for bonuses this year.

`Appalling'

``The executives in companies that get bailout money should have their
base salaries reduced by 10 percent for 2009 and they should pay back
a substantial portion of their 2007 bonuses to the government for the
financial devastation they oversaw, fostered and, in some cases,
directly caused,'' said S. Woods Bennett, a 57-year-old lawyer in
Baltimore. ``Their sense of entitlement is appalling.''

In addition to Goldman, Morgan Stanley and Citigroup, the companies
that received the first round of money from the U.S. government's
Troubled Asset Relief Program were Merrill Lynch & Co., JPMorgan Chase
& Co., Bank of America Corp., Wells Fargo & Co., State Street Corp.
and Bank of New York Mellon Corp.

Some needed the money more than others. Citigroup and Merrill haven't
been profitable since early last year. Earnings at each of the other
firms, except Boston-based State Street, have been dropping.

`Money's Money'

``Bonuses and severance packages will obsess the American public'' and
become ``a humiliation and embarrassment,'' said Arthur Levitt, a
senior adviser to the Carlyle Group, former chairman of the Securities
and Exchange Commission, and a board member of Bloomberg LP, the
parent company of Bloomberg News. ``Compensation committees, believe
me, are paying close attention to this.''

Several of the companies -- including Citigroup and Wells Fargo --
have said they won't use federal funds to pay bonuses. That's disputed
by some, including former compensation consultant Graef Crystal.

``The argument of saying we're not using the bailout money is just
crap because money's fungible, money's money,'' said Crystal, who
writes the newsletter graefcrystal.com. ``It exposes them to
ridicule.''

A renegotiated government rescue for American International Group
Inc., which was once the world's largest insurance company, includes a
freeze on the bonus pool for 70 top executives and imposes limits on
severance benefits, the Treasury said in a statement yesterday. AIG's
bailout is separate from the $125 billion being invested in nine
banks.

Economy Contracts

The bailout is only part of the reason that people object to Wall
Street bonuses this year. The financial industry worldwide has taken
more than $690 billion in writedowns and credit losses this year and
cut more than 150,000 jobs, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

A decline in lending has caused the wider economy to contract: the
U.S. gross domestic product shrank at a 0.3 percent annual pace in the
third quarter, consumer spending fell at its fastest pace since 1980
and unemployment jumped to 6.5 percent, the highest since 1994.

``This is the real economy these vultures have wrecked once again,''
said Leo Gerard, president of the Pittsburgh-based United
Steelworkers, which represents 1.2 million active and retired members.
``Workers are taking it on the chin through no fault of their own.''

Top Executives

``Please explain how miserable performance of biblical proportions
warrants any bonuses, particularly using money from me the customer
and taxpayer,'' said Glenn Brown, 67, who recently retired after 21
years as a researcher in the department of surgery at Beth Israel
Deaconess in Boston and as an adjunct assistant professor at Harvard
Medical School. ``I don't understand how they can even conceive of
doing that.''

``If these guys were so talented how did this problem happen anyway?''
said Mark Whitling, 63, who works as the chief financial officer of a
steel service company that employs 125 people in Eastern Ohio. ``We
don't feel sorry for them.''

Attention is most focused on the top executives at the banks that are
receiving federal money. They'll have to take the steepest pay cuts
because their pay is disclosed in proxy filings, according to Alan
Johnson, managing director of Johnson Associates, the compensation
consulting firm that estimates bonuses will decline between 10 percent
and 70 percent.

``I'd advise the CEO to say he can't take anything if it's one of
these firms getting bailed out by the government,'' said Crystal. ``I
think he's just going to have to go down to just his salary.''

Pay or Lose

That's probably not the case for employees whose pay isn't disclosed,
even those who get bonuses that exceed $1 million.

Both Johnson and Crystal say that top performers should receive
bonuses this year or companies risk losing their best workers. Of
about 600 people who responded to an online survey on the
eFinancialCareers.com Web site, 46 percent said they would be
unwilling to take any pay cut this year.

``You could build up, I would think, a lot of resentment on the part
of people who say, `Look I did give my all this last year, and I know
it's been a bad year, but everything that was asked of me I
accomplished and then some,''' said Crystal. Eliminating bonuses
across the board ``could be very demoralizing in the long run and it
could lose you some people.''

Larry Frank, a 60-year-old retired software company owner who lives in
Ormond Beach, Florida, said he told his broker at Merrill Lynch that
he would pull his money from the company if it paid the $6.7 billion
it has set aside this year to pay bonuses. While he thinks top
managers should suffer, he doesn't think everybody should lose out on
getting a bonus.

`Bunch of BS'

``Individual brokers, if they're performing and their areas are
profitable and they're doing their job, I can't see punishing them,''
he said. ``The CEO shouldn't get anything.''

Still, other people say that all employees working at companies
receiving bailout funds should pay the price.

``It's crazy, it's all one company, it's the same thing,'' said Scott
Floyd, a 37-year-old marketing executive in Manhattan Beach,
California. ``For people to say the guys in the brokerage should get
bonuses because they did well, but it was just the mortgage lending
division that did terribly, that's a bunch of BS.''

Amo, the retired ship captain in Seattle, said that since most
financial companies are cutting jobs, they shouldn't worry about
paying bonuses to keep people from leaving.

``Where are they going to go? Don't let the door hit you on your way
out,'' he said. ``It's not like it's just one company -- the entire
Street is frozen.''

`Thumbing Their Noses'

Karlson, the Vietnam vet, said he thinks Wall Street executives are
``thumbing their noses at the common people'' if they pay themselves
bonuses while people in the country are losing their homes.

``The rationale that they depend on their bonuses, come on, how are we
supposed to relate to that?'' he said. ``You don't get a bonus from
your company if it doesn't do a good job.''

Jim Beachboard, a 57-year-old lawyer in Little Rock, Arkansas,
compared taking a bonus to ``kind of like being on the Titanic.''

``It was supposed to be women and children first, so the guys that
tried to jump in the lifeboats weren't really looked upon with much
kindness,'' he said. ``When you start thinking of this many tax
dollars being injected into the system, I know there are all sorts of
rationalizations and justifications that you can use to try to justify
almost anything, but it's just really in very poor taste.''

Taking a bonus isn't something executives should be proud of,
Beachboard added.

``My mother always told me, don't ever do anything that you would be
too ashamed to tell me about, and I thought, would they really want to
tell their mother that?''

To contact the reporter on this story: Christine Harper in New York at
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