The sun does, indeed, have an effect. The global climate has been
subject to change long before we had the ability to measure it.....and
long before we had the ability to affect if....if, indeed, we can to a
significant degree. There is still much debate on the subject.

If you're asking be if we have the ability to affect the climate, my
answer would have to be yes, we can. Are we the cause of the current
warming trend (if, indeed, it is a trend that isn't already reversing
itself)? It is possible that we are, in part, responsible....and it is
also possible that we aren't to any significant degree.

Back in the 70's scientists thought that all the particulate matter we
were putting into the atmosphere could block the sun's rays, producing
an ice age (and theoretically, it could have happened). More recently,
the green house effect describes a scenario in which the particulate
matter (chiefly CO2) could trap heat in the atmosphere...causing a
warming trend (and it should be recognized that man is not the sole
cause of CO2 emissions). I've heard scientists debate that the two
opposing trends have reached some sort of funky
equilibrium.....another possibility that exists.

My thoughts on the subject? I think we would be naive to believe we
are the sole cause....or even the main cause...of global
warming....if, indeed, this is a long-term trend. Likewise, though, we
would be naive to believe that we can have no significant effect on
the climate. I see no harm in erring on the side of caution and doing
what we can to reduce emission. All we lose (if we are wrong) is
smoggy air. New industry can be built around green energy....a good
thing, if you ask me.

But if you are asking me for a more definitive answer, I can give you
none. Atmospheric science is still in its infancy, and global climate
change usually occurs over centuries....not years.....so whether or
not this is a real, long-term change won't likely be determined until
long after we're all gone.

Personally, I have no problem with cleaner air though.

On Nov 16, 3:42 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 12:39 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  Any time you want to compare scientific knowledge with me, Gaar, I'll
> > play.
>
> Ok, shall we start with Global Warming and its causes?
>
> Please feel free to state your case, as to what YOU believe to be the
> causes of Global Warming, and the role the Sun and Co2 play in it.
>
> I'll wait here.
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