murky has no clue.  neither do the dems when it come to economics.
clueless does not describe their ignorance.

On Nov 17, 4:02 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://taxesandgrowth.ncpa.org/news/do-taxes-affect-economic-growth
>
> Beyond a certain point, however, when taxes begin being used as
> transfer payments, incentives to work, save and invest are reduced,
> which affects the nation's economic progress. High marginal tax rates
> cause people to work fewer hours, take longer vacations, and shelter
> their income to evade tax collection. High taxes encourage individuals
> to divert resources from their most productive uses to those uses
> which will lower their tax burden.
>
> In any economy, there is an optimal tax rate (the percentage of GDP
> that comes from taxes) which will ensure maximum economic growth; if
> the tax burden exceeds that level, economic growth will slow.
>
> A study that examined data from 1950 to 1995 found that:1
>
> -The estimated growth-maximizing tax rate for the U.S. during that
> time period was 21 percent of GDP.
> -The corresponding rate of economic growth would be 4.6 percent.
> -In reality, taxes were 24.2 percent of GDP in 1950 and rose
> thereafter; the actual economic growth rate during that period was 3.4
> percent.
> -Actual GDP in 1995 (measured in 1992 dollars) was $6.67 trillion, but
> if the optimal tax rate had been effect, GDP would have been $13.48
> billion.
> -Under the optimal tax rate, workers would have been producing
> $107,900 in per capita output in 1995, much more than the actual
> figure of $54,100.
>
> Historic Tax Cuts: JFK and Reagan
> The 1960s and 1980s were periods of record sustained high growth,
> mainly due to the tax cuts and reforms enacted at the beginning of
> each decade by Kennedy and Reagan, respectively.
>
> The JFK administration, against the advice of many economic advisers,
> began cutting taxes in 1962, starting with businesses. An investment
> tax credit encouraged investment and changes in depreciation costs
> lowered the cost of capital for businesses. The top corporate rate
> fell from 52 to 48 percent, and the top individual marginal tax rate
> fell from 90 to 70 percent. The empirical evidence shows that these
> tax cuts stimulated growth:2
>
> Between 1962 and 1969, investment grew at an annual rate of 6.1
> percent, far higher than the 3 percent annual rate for 1959-1962 and
> the 2.3 percent rate for 1969-1972, after the JFK tax reforms had been
> repealed.
> Real GNP grew 4.5 percent during the 1960s, higher than the 2.4
> percent growth rate seen from 1952-1960.
> The JFK tax cuts also provided proof of a counter-intuitive idea, that
> cutting taxes will not raise deficits:3
>
> From 1962-1969, government revenue increased 6.4 percent a year,
> compared with 1.2 percent a year between 1952-1959.
> Indeed, after the '62 and '64 tax cuts, the deficit actually fell from
> $7.1 billion to $1.4 billion.
> The 1980s was another decade marked by sustained economic growth,
> which was especially remarkable given the stagflation that was
> strangling the economy by the end of President Carter's term. From the
> trough of the recession in 1982 to the peak in 1990, it was the
> longest peacetime expansion in history.
>
> Reagan's tax cuts spurred an investment boom, just like in the 1960s
> after the JFK tax cuts. The Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 featured
> a 25 percent across-the-board tax cut. The tax reforms increased
> incentives to save, work and invest, which increased the productive
> output of the economy to match the increase in demand:4
>
> Real economic growth averaged 3.2 percent during the Reagan years,
> compared with 2.8 percent during the Fort-Carter years and 2.1 percent
> during the Bush-Clinton years.
> Real median family income grew by $4,000 during the Reagan period
> after experiencing no growth in the pre-Reagan years; it experienced a
> loss of almost $1,500 in the post-Reagan years.
> The amount of time the median worker stayed unemployed fell
> drastically.
> The first law of government policy should be "first do no harm." The
> government should encourage long-term economic growth through low
> taxes, stable currency, and enforcing contracts. High taxes drain
> resources that would be most productive in the private sector. The
> experiences of the JFK and Reagan tax cuts show that a hands-off
> fiscal policy works best to stimulate economic growth.
>
> On Nov 17, 3:17 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Why the Economy Grows Like Crazy Amid High 
> > Taxeshttp://www.alternet.org/workplace/106979/
> > The raw truth is that the economy has grown faster when taxes were
> > higher, but how can we explain that phenomenon?          The real-
> > world effects of tax policy are counterintuitive.
>
> > They run exactly opposite the conventional wisdom. They defy what the
> > Heritage Foundation calls common sense and what the American
> > Enterprise Institute calls logic.
>
> > Reality laughs at the Laffer curve, calls Ronald Reagan wrong and
> > says
> > George W. Bush is a loon.
>
> > High marginal tax rates correlate with economic growth.
>
> > Examples include World War II and the Truman-Eisenhower years, when
> > it
> > was around 90 percent, and the Clinton years, when it was high
> > relative to the preceding and following administrations.
>
> > Tax rate increases are followed by real economic growth.
>
> > Examples include Hoover in 1932, Roosevelt in 1936 and 1940, Bush the
> > Elder in 1991 and Clinton in1993.
>
> > Moderate tax cuts are followed by a flat economy.
>
> > This is a generalization from one example: Johnson in 1964.
>
> > Large tax cuts are followed by a boom, a bubble and a crash.
>
> > 1929, 1987 and 2008 are examples.
>
> > These are covered in more detail in the first part of the article
> > "Tax
> > Cuts: The B.S. and the Facts."
>
> > Why do high taxes create a stronger economy?
>
> > I used to run a small business -- a commercial film production
> > company.
>
> > Every time we took a dollar out as personal income, it instantly
> > turned into 50 cents.
>
> > If we didn't really need the money, that was an incentive to keep it
> > in the company and to find ways to spend it that took it out of the
> > taxable profit column but increased the value of the company.
>
> > High taxes create an incentive to reinvest profits into long-term
> > growth.
>
> > With high taxes, the only way to retain the bulk of the wealth
> > created
> > by a business is by reinvesting it in the business -- in plants,
> > equipment, staff, research and development, new products and all the
> > rest.
>
> > The higher taxes are (and from 1940 to 1964 the top rates were around
> > 90 percent), the more this is true.
>
> > This creates a bias toward long-term planning.
>
> > If a business is planning for the long term, it wants a happy, stable
> > work force. It becomes worthwhile to pay good wages and offer decent
> > benefits.
>
> > Low taxes create an incentive for profit taking.
>
> > It is easy to confuse profitability with wealth creation.
>
> > They are not the same
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