Some info on Joe Kennedy, If you go to the link you will see Joe was a bigot as well (anti-Jewish)... So expanding your thesis -- JFK must be a bigot and Nazi because of who his father was...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy,_Sr. >>> In 1938, Roosevelt appointed Kennedy as the United States Ambassador to the >>> Court of St. James's (Britain). Kennedy's Irish and Catholic status did not >>> bother the British; indeed he hugely enjoyed his leadership position in >>> London society, which stood in stark contrast to his outsider status in >>> Boston. His daughter Kathleen married the heir to the Duke of Devonshire, >>> the head of one of England's grandest aristocratic families. Kennedy >>> rejected the warnings of Winston Churchill that compromise with Nazi >>> Germany was impossible; instead he supported Prime Minister Neville >>> Chamberlain's policy of appeasement in order to stave off a second world >>> war that would be a more horrible "armageddon" than the first. Throughout >>> 1938, as the Nazi persecution of Jews intensified, Kennedy attempted to >>> obtain an audience with Adolf Hitler.[8] Shortly before the Nazi aerial >>> bombing of British cities began in September 1940, Kennedy sought a >>> personal meeting with Hitler, again without State Department approval, "to >>> bring about a better understanding between the United States and >>> Germany."[9] Kennedy argued strongly against giving aid to Britain. "Democracy is finished in England. It may be here," stated Ambassador Kennedy, Boston Sunday Globe of November 10, 1940. In that one simple statement, Joe Kennedy ruined any future chances of becoming US president, effectively committing political suicide. While bombs fell daily on the UK, Nazi troops occupied Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands, and France, Ambassador Kennedy unambiguously and repeatedly stated his belief that the war was not about saving democracy from National Socialism (Nazism) or Fascism. In the now- infamous, long, rambling interview with two newspaper journalists, Louis M. Lyons of the Boston Globe and Ralph Coghlan of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Kennedy opined: "It's all a question of what we do with the next six months. The whole reason for aiding England is to give us time." ... "As long as she is in there, we have time to prepare. It isn't that [Britain is] fighting for democracy. That's the bunk. She's fighting for self-preservation, just as we will if it comes to us... I know more about the European situation than anybody else, and it's up to me to see that the country gets it,"[10] In British government circles during the Blitz, Ambassador Kennedy was widely disparaged as a defeatist and also known as a coward. He became known as Jittery Joe for his propensity to run for cover to an air raid shelter located near Windsor at the slightest sign of an air raid. [citation needed] When the American public and Roosevelt Administration officials read his quotes on democracy being "finished", and his belief that the Battle of Britain wasn't about "fighting for democracy," all of it being just "bunk", they realized that Ambassador Kennedy could not be trusted to represent the United States. In the face of national public outcry, he was offered the chance to fall on his sword, and he submitted his resignation later that month On Nov 25, 11:37 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > are you trying to imply obama's grandparents were fascists and plotted > to overthrow the elected government of the united states of America ? > > On Nov 25, 8:42 am, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Like I said you really want to bring this up considering Obama's > > heritage? > > > On Nov 25, 1:11 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > the actions and motives of the parents and grandparents often repeat > > > themselves in the children as is the case with boy george . > > > > On Nov 24, 11:20 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > No,not just "jabbing at Bush". The Bush involved was only one of the > > > > people involved, and I don't believe even a major player. > > > > More of a "jab" at conservatives in general and very rich one's with > > > > politital influence they have bought specifically ,nd their ability to > > > > avoid taking consequences for actions as serious as plotting treason. > > > > An ancestor of Bush being involved is just a happy bonus. > > > > > On Nov 24, 7:17 am, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Even so, and my point, what does that have to do with the price of a > > > > > cup of coffee today? > > > > > > You want to dig up ancestors considering who you President Elect is > > > > > right now? > > > > > > More jabbing at Bush, nothing more. Big flip. > > > > > > PS. Ya think Obama's stimulus plan will make it to his brother in > > > > > Kenya? The dude only needs 10 bucks a month to survive ya know..... > > > > > > On Nov 24, 6:44 am, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I think that Mike may just be quite correct,about the Bush > > > > > > ancestors. > > > > > > If you check a book by Bill Stevenson "a man called Intrepid, and > > > > > > Intrepid's last case" there was a strong case to believe that the US > > > > > > might not be a reliable ally against Hitler. In fact had the UK > > > > > > fallen > > > > > > in 1941, the plan was for the US to concede to Hitler, (check out > > > > > > Phreedom's maps) with the Empire falling to the third Reich. That > > > > > > was one of the threats that arose from the marriage of Wallace > > > > > > Simpson > > > > > > to the then King Edward VIII. Apart from the constitutional problem > > > > > > that she was twice divorced (which would result in the King's > > > > > > excommunication at the time) she was also a Nazi Sympathizer. It was > > > > > > George VI, and Churchill, and Roosevelt who forsaw the threat that > > > > > > Hitler presented, and it was their actions which ensured that the UK > > > > > > would not capitulate. A large part of the funding for that came from > > > > > > discretionary funds held by the British monarch. > > > > > > What really changed the course of WW2, was the attack on Pearl > > > > > > Harbour, which forced the US into the war, by the fact that they > > > > > > were > > > > > > declaring war on an AXIS power, (Japan). The level of influence > > > > > > that > > > > > > Hitler had with Tojo was then questionnable. > > > > > > Churchill and Roosevelt knew that the americans would become > > > > > > involved. > > > > > > British interests in the Pacific, were extensive, and the day after > > > > > > Pearl Harbour, Hong Kong was attacked, and failed. What they had > > > > > > agreed was that the threat in the Pacific was far less, and > > > > > > particularly if Hitler were to be neutralized first. > > > > > > On Nov 24, 3:20 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > garr caused WNC to be banned. but ! i think when he went to owner > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the board she also banned fish boys ass for his actions . he has > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > posted anything in almost a week . if fish boy is gone or WNCS is > > > > > > > reinstated then i will post here. i posted this article as a test > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > see if the scaly one was gone > > > > > > > > On Nov 23, 5:43 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I thought the mini moron called for a boycott of this board (as > > > > > > > > if we would > > > > > > > > all jump off a cliff if he lead the way LOL). What gives? > > > > > > > > > CW > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Zebnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 04:40 > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: lest we forget ! Prescott Bush plotted to > > > > > > > > overthrow FDR and > > > > > > > > > implement > > > > > > > > > The funniest thing about your paranoid posts, mikey, is that you > > > > > > > > actually believe them. I can just see you sitting there with > > > > > > > > your tin > > > > > > > > foil helmet on, drooling and giggling as you type this tripe > > > > > > > > onto the > > > > > > > > forum. LOL! > > > > > > > > > On Nov 23, 1:43 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > which never happened sunshine but hey nice try ! > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 23, 1:38 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > here's news murky. how about kerry meeting with the n > > > > > > > > > > vietnamese > > > > > > > > > > while still a member of the military, while the war was > > > > > > > > > > still going > > > > > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 23, 1:34 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > it is only non news for those who would hide the truth ! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 23, 12:25 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinda hard to forget when you fling this nonnews every > > > > > > > > > > > > other day or > > > > > > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS. Obama won ya know, how about something a little > > > > > > > > > > > > more timely? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 23, 5:13 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lest we forget ! Prescott Bush plotted to overthrow > > > > > > > > > > > > > FDR and > > > > > > > > > > > > > implement > > > > > > > > > > > > > fascismhttp://republican.meetup.com/boards/thread/3317707 > > > > > > > > > > > > > The current president's grandfather, Prescott Bush, > > > > > > > > > > > > > along with > > > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > prominent industrialists attempted a bloody coup in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 1930's to > > > > > > > > > > > > > transform America into a fascist state like Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Italy at > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > time. They approached Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley > > > > > > > > > > > > > Butler with > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > proposition of leading a half-million man army of > > > > > > > > > > > > > veterans to > > > > > > > > > > > > > defeat > > > > > > > > > > > > > FDR's government in 1933 because his policies were > > > > > > > > > > > > > perceived as > > > > > > > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > > > > > progressive. It has already been confirmed that > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prescott Bush and > > > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > > elitist associates engaged in financial transactions > > > > > > > > > > > > > with Nazi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > > at a time when it was illegal. They conducted > > > > > > > > > > > > > business with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > German > > > > > > > > > > > > > companies that fueled Hitler's rise to power and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nazi war > > > > > > > > > > > > > machine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush himself was linked to at least one Nazi business, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consolidated > > > > > > > > > > > > > Silesian Steel Company (CSSC), that utilized slave > > > > > > > > > > > > > labor from > > > > > > > > > > > > > various > > > > > > > > > > > > > concentration camps. It has been theorized that the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush family > > > > > > > > > > > > > fortune was amassed from those Nazi business dealings > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the '30s > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > '40s. With this information in mind, you can see > > > > > > > > > > > > > where George W > > > > > > > > > > > > > gets > > > > > > > > > > > > > his inspiration from. We can only hope and pray that > > > > > > > > > > > > > America > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > > > > > > face the same fate as 1930s Germany. However, in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > opinion, we > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > well on our way to repeating history. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BBC short article on the coup:http://www.bbc.co.uk/... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Whitehouse Coup Monday 23 July 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > USA in 1933 by > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > group of right-wing American businessmen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roosevelt with > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > who were > > > > > > > > > > > > > alleged > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > involve some of the most famous families in America, > > > > > > > > > > > > > (owners of > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heinz, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush?s > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grandfather, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prescott) > > > > > > > > > > > > > believed that their country should adopt the policies > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Hitler > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mussolini to beat the great depression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known > > > > > > > > > > > > > about this > > > > > > > > > > > > > biggest > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever peacetime threat to American democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Detailed article on the entire > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation:http://prisonplanet.c... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > BBC: Bush's Grandfather Planned Fascist Coup In > > > > > > > > > > > > > America > > > > > > > > > > > > > New investigation sheds light on clique of > > > > > > > > > > > > > powerbrokers, including > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prescott Bush, who sought to overthrow U.S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > government and > > > > > > > > > > > > > implement > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hitlerian policies > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul Joseph Watson > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prison Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, July 24, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A BBC Radio 4 investigation sheds new light on a major > > ... > > read more ยป --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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