Actually, we are slaves to the State. On Dec 3, 6:58�am, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a lot of people haven't realized religion has nothing to do with > marriage either . in fact getting married in church means nothing and > you are not really married until the church files the papers with the > state ! > > On Dec 3, 7:38�am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Most don't realize marriage is a contract until they divorce and > > divide the assets. "What's Love Got to Do With It?"//Children are > > born. Parents die. Weath shimmies.// The winners are lawyers. > > > On Dec 3, 6:32 am, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > marrage is nothing more or less than a contract between two adults and > > > the state . > > > > On Dec 3, 6:49 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > It's hard enough to trust a straight man, mike. Who wants to be the > > > > recipient of all his wild nights that are incipient STD's? The last > > > > trustworthy male is a widower with decades of loyal marriage under his > > > > belt. The complications, however, multiply. We are sexual creatures > > > > from birth till death- nothing in Third World countries compares to > > > > the treatment of mature women in the West. Tribes have a place for > > > > them. We do not. Frankly, I can see the allure of children and youth > > > > for old males. But I am not a male. > > > > > On Dec 3, 5:07 am, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > what is that frightens you about two gay people getting married ? > > > > > > On Dec 3, 5:45 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > fyi: I voted for the Arkansas Proposed Initiative Act No. 1 and it > > > > > > passed. > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > 9 Ways to Halt the Right Wing Culture Wars and Bring Sanity to > > > > > > > Sexual > > > > > > > Policy > > > > > > >http://www.alternet.org/sex/109563/ > > > > > > > We have a unique opportunity to overturn the perverse agenda of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Religious > > > > > > > Right. > > > > > > > The recent electoral victory of Barack Obama and the Democratic > > > > > > > party > > > > > > > presents a unique opportunity to overturn the most perverse > > > > > > > policy of > > > > > > > the Bush administration and the religious right, the conservative > > > > > > > repressive sexual agenda. The following nine proposals can help > > > > > > > frame > > > > > > > a new sexual agenda to be introduced in the first 100 days. > > > > > > > > For the last three decades the religious right fought a take-no- > > > > > > > prisoners war over popular morality. Taking power with Bush's > > > > > > > victory > > > > > > > in 2000, Christian conservatives were finally in the position to > > > > > > > impose their beliefs as public policy. And they did so with a > > > > > > > vengeance. At the local, state and federal levels, religious > > > > > > > zealots, > > > > > > > working through the Republican party, took control of the > > > > > > > apparatus of > > > > > > > the State and aggressively implemented a diverse set of programs > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > further their goal of creating a morally upstanding, Christian > > > > > > > society. Family life, sexual relations, education, scientific > > > > > > > knowledge and popular entertainment became battlegrounds of > > > > > > > > the culture wars. > > > > > > > > The culture wars played a decisive role in the 2000 and 2004 > > > > > > > elections, but were eclipsed in the 2006 Congressional elections, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > religious right's moral fervor spent. While sex issues were all > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > absent from the 2008 national presidential campaign, they did help > > > > > > > rally the conservative faithful at the state level. Efforts to > > > > > > > outlaw > > > > > > > gay marriage were successful in Arizona (Proposition 102), > > > > > > > California > > > > > > > (Proposition 8)and Florida (Marriage Protection Amendment) as was > > > > > > > Arkansas' Proposed Initiative Act No. 1 that prohibits co-habiting > > > > > > > couples of the same sex, whether gay or straight, from either > > > > > > > adopting > > > > > > > a child or serving as foster parents. > > > > > > > > Nevertheless, efforts in Colorado (Amendment 45) and South Dakota > > > > > > > (Initiated Measure 11) to, respectively, establish "fetal > > > > > > > personhood" > > > > > > > and ban abortion failed. And in Washington, voters approved a > > > > > > > proposition permitting physician-assisted suicide similar to one > > > > > > > already in force in Oregon. In 2008, it was the collapsing > > > > > > > economy, > > > > > > > failed Bush policies and culture-war fatigue as well as Obama's > > > > > > > broad > > > > > > > popular appeal that turned the tide for the Democrats. > > > > > > > > The Democratic landslide provides a unique opportunity for > > > > > > > Congress > > > > > > > and the President-elect to quickly address at least one of the > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > profound failings of the Bush administration, its repressive sex > > > > > > > policies. The following proposals can help frame the upcoming > > > > > > > battle > > > > > > > for political reform and, hopefully, finally put an end to the > > > > > > > religious right's culture wars. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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