Frankly the Holden appointment brings up the Marc Rich pardon... Should Holden, who was the reason why the Ric Pardon was not looked at by the Justice Department pardon office, be AG for being a DUPE OF A cLINTON fRIEND WHO WAS A lOBBYIST?
On Dec 5, 5:46 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just tell that sorryass piece of shit to produce the documents and this will > all go away. The reason he has not is that he can't. > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > once again check with snopes > > > On Dec 5, 5:22 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Those documents have been questioned as to their authenticity. Let the > > > courts decide. The issue is moot til then. > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > travis Obama supplied his birth certificate and there is a copy on his > > > > web site from what i hear . > > > > > On Dec 5, 5:01 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Neither you nor me have ever seen any proof of to where he was born > > or as > > > > to > > > > > whether he is a qualified US citizen as that proof has never been > > > > produced > > > > > by hm. It is not a myth but a legitimate legal question that needs > > to be > > > > > resolved now. Simple. > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Liberal mike 532 < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > travis you know that isn't true ! this myth has been debunked many > > > > > > times now . > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 4:47 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Does thet include obama? He needs to prove his citizenship is > > such > > > > that > > > > > > he > > > > > > > is eligible to be pres. He has not done so and he must do this. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Liberal mike 532 < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > In America, no one is above the law: > > > > > > > > Speak out against pre-emptive pardons and restore the American > > > > values > > > > > > > > of justice and due process. > > > > > > > >http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=n8yNAnlW28m8PLB-sUMIHw.. > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > > > > > > Dear ACLU Supporter, > > > > > > > > > There's a real risk that President Bush may issue pardons to a > > > > > > > > number of high-ranking Administration officials for any > > activities > > > > > > > > related to torture, extraordinary rendition and other abuses. > > > > > > > > > That's right. Even before they're charged with a crime, > > > > > > > > Bush has the power to prevent any criminal investigation into > > the > > > > > > > > activities of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Gonzales and others > > whose > > > > > > > > behavior raises serious questions. > > > > > > > > > Send a message to President Bush telling him you oppose > > preemptive > > > > > > > > pardons for torture. > > > > > > > >http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=1CggbVACcbaloKGD5UyA6A.. > > > > > > > > > We must make it clear that preemptive pardons aimed at letting > > > > > > > > high-ranking officials escape accountability for undermining > > the > > > > > > > > Constitution and violating the law go against American values > > of > > > > > > > > justice and due process. > > > > > > > > > Today, the ACLU is urging concerned people all across the > > country > > > > to > > > > > > > > speak out against these pardons. Americans -- and the world -- > > have > > > > a > > > > > > > > right to know the truth about torture and other abuses carried > > out > > > > in > > > > > > > > our name. > > > > > > > > > Tell President Bush: you oppose preemptive pardons for torture. > > > > > > > >http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=YhzALem0kejxMgTOnOG-yQ.. > > > > > > > > > This weekend, both The New York Times and The Washington Post > > > > issued > > > > > > > > powerful editorials calling on President Bush to resist taking > > this > > > > > > > > inflammatory action. We need you to do the same. > > > > > > > > > As the Post put it, "no country should be in the business of > > > > > > > > concealing its history." We should be getting at the truth, not > > > > > > > > excusing those involved in shameless acts. > > > > > > > > > So, in a preemptive campaign of our own, the ACLU is urging > > people > > > > all > > > > > > > > across the country to tell President Bush that you won't stand > > > > > > > > for preemptive pardons for people who were involved in torture, > > > > > > > > illegal detention, and other abuses. > > > > > > > > > Take action: Tell President Bush you oppose preemptive pardons > > for > > > > > > > > torture. > > > > > > > >http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=1rT8_-emw4R3RVVTukEVLg.. > > > > > > > > > In its editorial, The New York Times made the case clearly: > > > > > > > > > "The Bush administration distorted statutes and case law to > > legally > > > > > > > > justify interrogation techniques that had long been considered > > > > torture > > > > > > > > under domestic and international law. It relied on sloppy or > > > > > > > > aggressive legal analysis as a basis for evading judicial > > review of > > > > a > > > > > > > > warrantless wiretapping program. It has at every turn chosen > > the > > > > most > > > > > > > > expansive interpretation of the law to rationalize indefinite > > > > > > > > detentions and deny federal court review to those in custody. > > It > > > > has, > > > > > > > > in short, determined its preferred course of action first and > > then > > > > > > > > stitched together absurd readings of the law to defend those > > > > > > > > choices."The last thing America needs as we set out to restore > > the > > > > > > > > rule of law and repair America's reputation in the world is a > > > > > > > > last-ditch Bush effort to pardon those who guided our country > > so > > > > far > > > > > > > > off course. > > > > > > > > > Please act now. Help the ACLU raise a powerful wave of protest > > > > > > > > expressing outrage that pardons by President Bush are even > > under > > > > > > > > consideration. > > > > > > > >http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=q4Y4CB6O3K4eleApvezvxg.. > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > Anthony D. Romero > > > > > > > > Executive Director > > > > > > > > ACLU > > > > > > > > > P.S. Pardons could happen at any time. We need as many people > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > *~@):~{> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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