Quakko,

The following IS a truism!!!!!!!!!!!!


and I stand by this statement....

che did not kill civilians, neither did bush

it is either ENTIRELY wrong or ENTIRELY correct. Pick one.






On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> che didn't kill civilians?  you really cannot be serious.  no one is
> that stupid.
>
> On Dec 10, 8:48 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> mark,
>>
>> Gee, I'm pretty sure he is. Why don't you prove him wrong?
>>
>> On Dec 10, 6:34 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > che did not kill civilians, are you serious?
>>
>> > On Dec 10, 7:18 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > > holly.
>>
>> > > sounds like they used republican/bush type writers for the Che' film.
>> > > che did not kill civilians, neither did bush.
>>
>> > > On Dec 10, 2:49 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Phil,
>>
>> > > > So don't go see the movie.
>>
>> > > > On Dec 10, 12:44 pm, Philobealo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > You have to weep for the future, if people are learning about the 
>> > > > > past
>> > > > > from Tinseltown. The latest crime against truth is called Che, a
>> > > > > hagiography that warps history to make communist executioner Che
>> > > > > Guevara into a hero.
>>
>> > > > > "I'd like to dedicate this to the man himself, Che Guevara!" 
>> > > > > announced
>> > > > > Benicio del Toro this May, as he received a "best actor" award for 
>> > > > > his
>> > > > > starring role in Che, a reverent new film about the communist
>> > > > > revolutionary. As the crowd at the Cannes Film Festival erupted in
>> > > > > thunderous ovation, the Puerto Rico-born actor gushed that "I 
>> > > > > wouldn't
>> > > > > be here without Che Guevara, and through all the awards the movie 
>> > > > > gets
>> > > > > you'll have to pay your respects to the man!"
>> > > > > But some stubbornly refuse to pay their respects. Thus, the actor
>> > > > > received a much cooler reception when Che, directed by Oscar-winner
>> > > > > Steven Soderbergh, had a private screening in Miami Beach this past
>> > > > > Thursday. Cuban-Americans, including the mayor of Miami Beach,
>> > > > > protested the 4-and-a-half hour glorification of the man they 
>> > > > > consider
>> > > > > a Stalinist mass-murderer.
>> > > > > Miami's media proved equally unwelcoming. At a press conference after
>> > > > > the screening in Miami Beach's Byron Carlyle Theater, Marlene 
>> > > > > Gonzalez
>> > > > > of the Spanish language America TeVe network asked del Toro about 
>> > > > > some
>> > > > > glaring omissions in the movie. What of Che's role in ordering the
>> > > > > executions of ordinary Cubans? And why no mention of the forced-labor
>> > > > > camps established on the guerilla fighter's orders? A suddenly 
>> > > > > hurried
>> > > > > Del Toro denied that Che bore any culpability for these horrors. He
>> > > > > refused even to admit Che's bitter falling out with Fidel Castro,
>> > > > > claiming that, to the contrary, the two always got along splendidly
>> > > > > and that Castro was genuinely heartbroken when Che was captured and
>> > > > > killed after fighting to his last bullet.
>> > > > > The contrast made for a moving scene. As protestors outside the
>> > > > > Carlyle Theater brandished pictures of relatives murdered by Che
>> > > > > Guevara, del Toro paid tribute to their murderer. Questions about
>> > > > > Che's brutalities — meticulously recorded in books like Exposing the
>> > > > > Real Che Guevara — he brushed aside as the embittered fabrications of
>> > > > > Cuban exiles.
>> > > > > The following day, del Toro flew to Havana to present his film at the
>> > > > > Havana Film Festival and hob-knob with Castro regime officials. Che
>> > > > > was billed as the highlight of the festival and the Stalinist regime
>> > > > > rolled out the carpet for their honored guest.
>> > > > > Del Toro publicly thanked the Cuban regime for research assistance.
>>
>> > > > > That del Toro considers the Cuban regime a reliable source for the
>> > > > > film is telling. Consider that the Castro government has jailed more
>> > > > > political prisoners as a percentage of population than Stalin's and
>> > > > > executed more people (out of a population of 6.4 million) in its 
>> > > > > first
>> > > > > three years in power than Hitler's executed (out of a population of 
>> > > > > 70
>> > > > > million) in it's first six. These figures come from the human rights
>> > > > > group Freedom House and from the Black Book of Communism, authored by
>> > > > > French scholars and translated into English by Harvard University
>> > > > > Press, not exactly headquarters for the vast-right wing conspiracy.
>> > > > > It's no accident that moonbat-infested Tinseltown produces 
>> > > > > grotesquely
>> > > > > distorted historical stories. As Orwell noticed:
>>
>> > > > > Who controls the past controls the future.
>> > > > > Those who share the socialist vision of the future as a boot stamping
>> > > > > on a human face have powerful friends in Hollyweird.- Hide quoted 
>> > > > > text -
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>> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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>



-- 
Mark M. Kahle
Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me

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