> In Barack Obama's appearance last month on CBS's "60 Minutes," the > conversation turned to the president-elect's long-time love of > Lincoln. > > "There is a wisdom there," Obama told interviewer Steve Kroft, "and a > humility about his approach to government, even before he was > president, that I just find very helpful."
Thank goodness Obama is NOT a Lincoln. Lincoln led the North on a brutally violent crusade against the South, exactly when the South looked like it would make strong new alliances abroad, and establish a solid trade and industrial base for its own economy. Sure, if you have a growing competitor right south of your own backyard, trounce them and trounce them good so that they cannot succeed, or secede. Whichever comes first. Nice Mr. Lincoln, best known for his "logs". It all goes to show how martyrdom to an assassin's bullet can make a hero out of a complete villain. Another nice Mr. Lincoln fact is that the North needed labour for its own industrial base and did not have enough labour. The South was an easy target. The "abolition" of slavery in the South, and so called "emancipation" led to cannon fodder and low paid wage labour slaves in the North. Remember that was before unions. Remember too that blacks in the south had some cultural life. There is clear and unequivocal evidence of black culture in the south. You do not see anything similar for a long time in the North. It comes later along with labor unions, reduced working hours, days off, and wages sufficient to support cultural activity. When a man or woman is beaten dog tired from working the long hours, at menial labour, without modern labour saving devices, has essentially no time off work, except Sunday to church, and makes next to nothing to support the family there is no culture. Not really. So "emancipation" is an interesting subject. Remember, most advances only came in the North after long, tough, battles between owners and unions. The social and economic advances were not brought about by Mr. Lincoln, who deserves to have his statue taken down and his name forgotten. He falls into about the same category in my estimation as Stalin. The way the North treated the South during the war and post war, was nearly as outrageously extreme. The way the North treated blacks was as extreme as the lot of a Stalinist exile to Siberia. Have you talked to any black factory workers, miners, from the time period ? They would have a lot to say to Obama, and I am sure Obama would burn Lincoln's picture immediately after. He is listening to the wrong ghosts. I wish Obama a speedy return, himself, to Lincoln's paradisical North, to work as blacks had to work. He himself would devoutly wish to return to being valuable property, and looked after in the South in consequence of his Northern freedom. As valuable property Southern owners housed, fed, provided medical care, even share cropped land, and allowed their slaves their own leisure and cultural expression. It was a responsibility Northern factory owners and others in control over the new wage labour black slaves as they migrated northward didn't do for decades. Let Obama spend a week there. It would be enough to change his mind forever. Maybe he would want to follow black children of just after the Civil War, in the North, to work. Maybe he could take one of their places for a day, instead of consorting with the retrogressive likes of the villain Lincoln. Lincoln was no saint is an understatement, but he knew how to put the spin on a war, and the winners always write the history. He was the Northern industrial devil, making sure that the upstart South didn't get very far up, from being pushed down into the dirt. If you can make more guns, faster, using cheaper labor, you win. I suppose that is Obama's motto too, along with Lincoln. Will Obama apply the same principle to anywhere else where he sees a challenge ? God help America and all of us if he follows that path. > By 1996, the references had shifted. For much of that year and in > 1997, there were constant invocations of Theodore Roosevelt � the > president whose historical circumstances, he argued, most resembled > his own. Well, if Obama cannot start a world war to cover over the current American led economic disaster, and crank start the failed American economy, then surely he can start another war against the South. Why not. If you cannot start a war outside your own borders, then you can surely have a Civil War within them. We have to consider why there was no warning of any kind as to the economic fiasco we are now in the midst of. We can argue that the intelligence system broke down and the government didn't know. We can argue that the government knew but failed completely to act. Then again we can argue that there was the idea that a nice big war could cover it all over and make it all disappear. Which version to you believe and which one would have appealed to Obama ? Let's hope Obama does his bam bam bam within his own country this time around. The way Lincoln did his bam bam bam, while the first modern war was fought, in all its brutality and innovativeness right inside of America itself. The world has a lot to worry about when it comes to an American president so naive that he chooses Lincoln and Roosevelt as his mentors. Those neural pathways were not a very good choice in today's America, and far from progressive. Yes, I am disappointed. Very disappointed in Obama. Already and he isn't even inaugurated yet. Cheers. Robert Morpheal There is no copyright on these words.wncs wrote: > WOW! So who is in the other 21% and what are your specific reasons for > not approving? > ************ > > > > Poll: 79% approve of way Obama is handling transition > Story Highlights > CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey finds only 18 percent > disapprove > > Obama's numbers eclipse those of George W. Bush and Bill Clinton in > same period > > CNN's Schneider: Type of figure seen when nation rallies for leader > after disaster > > Michelle Obama and Joe Biden also garner favorable opinions in poll > > From Paul Steinhauser > CNN > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- -- With six weeks before taking office, President- > elect Barack Obama is having one heck of a honeymoon, a new national > poll suggests. > > Nearly eight in 10 Americans questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research > Corporation survey out Tuesday morning are giving the president-elect > the thumbs up when it comes to his handling of the transition. > > Seventy-nine percent approve of Obama's performance so far during > transition, with 18 percent disapproving. > > Obama's approval rating is 14 points higher than the approval rating > for President-elect George Bush in 2001 and 17 points higher than > President-elect Clinton's rating in 1992, CNN Polling Director Keating > Holland said. > > Obama's current approval rating is also more than 50 points higher > than President Bush's current approval rating, which now stands at 28 > percent --- with 71 percent disapproving of the way Bush is handling > his job as president. > > "An Obama job approval rating of 79 percent -- that's the sort of > rating you see when the public rallies around a leader after a > national disaster," said Bill Schneider, CNN's senior political > analyst. "To many Americans, the Bush administration was a national > disaster." > > The poll indicates that 79 percent of the public thinks Obama will do > a good job as president -- up 4 percentage points from last month. > Eighteen percent think Obama will do a poor job as president, down 3 > points from November. > > And 78 percent of those questioned said they believe Obama will be a > uniter -- 20 points higher than those who felt the same way about then > President-elect Bush in 2000. Twenty percent say Obama will be a > divider, 16 points lower than those who said the same about Bush. > > "Bush came in promising to be a uniter, not a divider. That's a > promise Bush failed to deliver -- as he himself acknowledged last week > in an interview with ABC News when he said that one of his big > disappointments is that the tone in Washington got worse rather than > better," Schneider said. > > "Nearly 80 percent describe Obama as a uniter. So far, so good." > > Seventy-six percent of those polled have a favorable opinion of Obama. > "And the president-elect is not the only one who is popular right now. > Sixty-seven percent have a favorable view of Michelle Obama and 56 > percent have a positive view of Vice President-elect Joe Biden," added > Holland. > > The Democratic party continues to be much more popular than the GOP. > Six in 10 have a favorable view of the Democratic Party, while a > majority have an unfavorable opinion of the Republican party. > > The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted December 1-2, > with 1,096 adult Americans interviewed by telephone. The survey's > sampling error is 3 percentage points. > > http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/09/Obama.poll/index.html?eref=rss_topstories --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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