yes time will tell !

On Dec 17, 1:24 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
> As someone who is all about science I am pleased to hear Obama take
> this position. But what remains to be seen is whether he's talking
> about ALL science, or just his brand of science. The objection to Bush
> is not so much that he didn't base his policies on science, but that
> he based them on his brand of science and prevented the opposition
> from being heard. It's easy to name scientifically qualified people to
> political posts, but those people must be willing to listen to both
> sides of the argument with an open mind, and Obama must be willing to
> oppose his own personal opinions if the debate goes that way. If not,
> it's just more of the same. Time will tell...
>
> On Dec 17, 5:31 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Obama: My Administration Will Value Science instead of Evangelical
> > dogma !
> >  http://www.truthout.org/121608EA
> > With a Nobel physicist and a former EPA chief on board, some expect
> > Obama's White House to break from what they see as the Bush
> > administration's record of overlooking science in favor of politics.
>
> >     Washington - With the nomination of Nobel Prize-winning physicist
> > Steven Chu for Energy secretary, President-elect Barack Obama made
> > sure no one missed the message in the resume.
>
> >     "His appointment should send a signal to all that my
> > administration will value science," Obama said during a Chicago news
> > conference Monday. "We will make decisions based on facts, and we
> > understand that the facts demand bold action."
>
> >     Chu, director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory,
> > headlines a quartet of appointments that includes former
> > Environmental
> > Protection Agency chief Carol Browner as a coordinator of energy and
> > climate policy, former New Jersey environmental protection
> > commissioner Lisa Jackson as EPA director, and Los Angeles Deputy
> > Mayor Nancy Sutley to run the White House Council on Environmental
> > Quality.
>
> >     With this team, some environmentalists and former federal
> > research
> > scientists expect Obama's White House to break from what they view as
> > the Bush administration's record of overlooking science in favor of
> > politics.
>
> >     "It's such an incredible contrast, compared to the years of
> > darkness under the current administration, to see a scientist in such
> > a position of authority and influence in the Cabinet," said Alan
> > Nogee, who directs the Clean Energy Program for the Union of
> > Concerned
> > Scientists, which has accused the administration of silencing and
> > overruling scientists in policy-making. "It's night and day."
>
> >     Critics - including Nogee's organization and former EPA
> > Administrator Christie Todd Whitman - have complained about the
> > influence of industry lobbyists and ideologues on Bush administration
> > decision-making.
>
> >     Rep. Henry A. Waxman of Beverly Hills is among the Democrats who
> > repeatedly have accused top Bush officials, including Vice President
> > Dick Cheney and political adviser Karl Rove, with pressing federal
> > agencies to take positions that put them at odds with their own
> > scientists on energy, global warming and stem cell research.
>
> >     The critics say many high-ranking scientists have fled federal
> > jobs or have been forced from advisory panels in an effort to tilt
> > agency decision-making to be more favorable to corporate interests
> > or,
> > in at least one case, to help secure reelection of Republicans.
>
> >     In 2001, Waxman issued a 40-page report accusing the
> > administration of having "manipulated the scientific process and
> > distorted or suppressed scientific findings." In 2004, 60 prominent
> > scientists accused the administration of "misrepresenting and
> > suppressing scientific knowledge for political purposes."
>
> >     In 2006, the top climate scientist at NASA, James Hansen, said
> > the
> > Bush administration tried to gag him from speaking publicly after he
> > gave an academic lecture calling for prompt reductions in greenhouse
> > gases.
>
> >     On Monday, the Interior Department's inspector general issued a
> > report detailing how one administrator intervened in at least 13
> > decisions under the Endangered Species Act. The official's "zeal to
> > advance her agenda has caused considerable harm to the integrity" of
> > the Endangered Species Act program, the report said, "as well as
> > potential harm to individual species. Her heavy-handedness has cast
> > doubt on nearly every ESA decision issued during her tenure."
>
> >     Jeremy Symons, former climate policy adviser at the EPA, was so
> > shaken after representing the EPA on Cheney's Energy Task Force in
> > 2001 that he left government to become a vice president at the
> > National Wildlife Federation.
>
> >     "There was no interest in considering the scientific evidence of
> > the impact our energy policy would have on the environment," Symons
> > said in an interview on Monday. "When science was brought up for
> > discussion, it was dismissed as not important to developing the
> > energy
> > plan."
>
> >     Obama stressed the importance of energy and climate policy to the
> > nation's economy and security on Monday - though he declined to say
> > when he plans to grant a waiver for California to begin regulating
> > greenhouse gas emissions.
>
> >     Chu, who won his Nobel Prize for developing methods to trap atoms
> > with lasers, has oriented the Berkeley lab to focus on renewable
> > energy and climate change. On Monday he stressed the Energy
> > Department's role in supporting scientists, public and private, and
> > innovations that he said "can transform the entire landscape of
> > energy
> > demand and supply."
>
> >     His appointment has won wide praise across industries and party
> > lines. Current Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said in a statement
> > that
> > Chu "understands the significance of our energy and environmental
> > challenges, and more importantly, understands the technical solutions
> > necessary to address them.... I hold him in the highest regard."
>
> >     A leading energy lobbyist said he was "cautiously optimistic"
> > about Chu and his fellow appointees. "I hope they do welcome science
> > first," said Scott Segal of Bracewell and Giuliani in Washington.
> > "But
> > that means being clear about it when the technology isn't ready to
> > solve climate issues. Good science cuts both ways. It also cuts
> > against unrealistic policy proposals that could endanger the U.S.
> > economy."
>
> >     Environmental groups lauded the appointees for their commitment
> > to
> > alternative fuels and fighting global warming. They welcomed them as
> > symbols of science ascendant.
>
> >     "I'm quite sure we'll have policy disputes with the Obama
> > administration," said Michael Hirshfield, chief scientist at Oceana,
> > a
> > nonprofit organization dedicated to ocean protection. "But we expect
> > that the facts of the case, whatever the issue is, will be out there
> > more. We expect more transparency. We expect scientists to be able to
> > speak more."
>
> >     Reid Detchon, executive director of the nonpartisan Energy Future
> > Coalition, which advocates for renewable energy, said he expected Chu
> > to be the first in a succession of "first-rate scientists" to advise
> > Obama and help restore what he calls eight years of damage to the
> > "scientific apparatus" of the federal government.
>
> >     "What political appointments can do," Detchon said, "political
> > appointments can undo."
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