Hello! Teaneck, NJ! I was born there, in 1971! Used to live in Bogota, the next town over.
On Dec 20, 8:52 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Running! I was thinking of you last night; I was talking to > someone from Teaneck, are you from around there? Seems like I had > heard of it before. > > On Dec 20, 8:48 am, Running <[email protected]> wrote: > > > sweet! > > our orange maine coon cat (Dina) has been running into the Christmas > > tree full-tilt, causing it to shake, and then running away. Little > > fucker might be trying to bring it down. > > > On Dec 20, 8:40 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Actually I heard a story worse than beheading Mickey Mouse. Someone > > > else I know has a border collie and he apparently doesn't think much > > > of their Christmas decorations. He ate the head off the baby Jesus, > > > bit a camel, and ate Rudolph too! Bad dog! LOL! > > > > On Dec 20, 8:25 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Do Dogs Keep Mental Shit Lists? > > > > > WOOF!!!!! Why yes we do. > > > > > On Dec 18, 2:35 pm, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Do Dogs Keep Mental Shit Lists? > > > > > > Of course!!! > > > > > During the summer and fall we had an old Mickey Mouse bubble container > > > > > on the back deck for the amusement of the dog and visiting kids. At > > > > > some point, it apparently fell off the railing and far down below into > > > > > the woods. I never saw it down below so it might have been under the > > > > > leaves. > > > > > Recently I let the dog out because I was cleaning the floors, and she > > > > > had to remain outside almost all day. She was rather insulted about > > > > > this arrangement, and kept trying to come in and was upset that I > > > > > wouldn't let her in. Finally I was ready to let her in and I opened > > > > > the front door, and there right on the porch in front of me was > > > > > Mickey's severed head. > > > > > You tell me that dog didn't know exactly what she was doing! > > > > > > On Dec 18, 3:23 pm, Cold Water <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Sent to you by CW via Google Reader: > > > > > > > via YOUR NEW REALITY by Darryl Mason on 12/18/08 > > > > > > > Do Dogs Keep Mental Shit Lists? > > > > > > > In yet another 'Did you have to actually do a study to know this?' > > > > > > study, researchers now believe that dogs can experience jealously, > > > > > > and even resentment : > > > > > > Do dogs feel envy? A provocative new study indicates that they do, > > > > > > making man's best friend the first species after humans and > > > > > > primates to appear to chafe at being treated unfairly. > > > > > > > Aside from offering the first scientific evidence supporting what > > > > > > many dog lovers take for granted, the finding adds to the growing > > > > > > body of literature suggesting that animals, including dogs, have > > > > > > much richer emotional lives and more sophisticated behavior than > > > > > > humans have traditionally believed. > > > > > > > "Traditionally?" I think they mean "religiously." > > > > > > > Before the new study, the only creatures other than humans for > > > > > > which there was evidence of anything similar to envy were monkeys > > > > > > and chimpanzees. When asked to return rocks to their keepers in > > > > > > exchange for a treat, for example, monkeys that got cucumbers > > > > > > essentially went on strike and started throwing the rocks and > > > > > > cucumbers at researchers if they saw other animals getting grapes > > > > > > instead. > > > > > > > Damn straight. They're lucky they didn't get handfuls of shit > > > > > > thrown at them. > > > > > > > "Every dog owner will tell you, 'Yes, of course my dog has this.' > > > > > > You see it a lot if you have two dogs. If you treat one > > > > > > differently, then the other one would get angry," she said. But > > > > > > demonstrating it in a careful study helps dispel lingering notions > > > > > > that dogs and other animals are capable of only the most basic > > > > > > emotions, she said. > > > > > > > "It's definitely very interesting, because it shows that dogs don't > > > > > > just have primitive feelings like 'I'm afraid' or 'I'm happy.' This > > > > > > is a more higher level, deeper and profound," she said. > > > > > > > What is a dog really thinking about its owner if it gets a smack? > > > > > > I'm sorry, I'm really, really sorry? Or is the dog's reaction more > > > > > > like, 'Oh yeah, I'm gonna get you buddy. Yeah, I'll wag my tail > > > > > > soon and slobber all over you, but I won't forget this. No way. > > > > > > Just when you need them the most, those good shoes in the cupboard > > > > > > are going to get a little deposit from me. Oh yeah, Mr Slappy > > > > > > Hands, just you wait.' > > > > > > > "As time goes on, we're collecting an astounding amount of > > > > > > information about the social skills that animals have for > > > > > > negotiating their social world," said Marc Bekoff of the University > > > > > > of Colorado, author of the forthcoming book "Wild Justice," about > > > > > > animal morality. Bekoff noted, for example, that mice have shown > > > > > > signs of empathy for other mice in danger, that elephants will go > > > > > > out of their way to care for other injured elephants, and that > > > > > > coyotes will ostracize other coyotes who play unfairly. > > > > > > "From an evolutionary point of view, there's very little that we > > > > > > have that other animals don't have. Do I think that dogs can be > > > > > > envious and show resentment and jealousy? Of course I think they > > > > > > can," Bekoff said. > > > > > > > The sense of envy probably evolved to help the animals cooperate > > > > > > and probably exists in other animals for which cooperation is > > > > > > important, such as wolves and perhaps dolphins, Range said. > > > > > > Understanding how animals cooperate provides insights into how > > > > > > cooperation evolved, she and others said. > > > > > > > Animals can feel and experience and presumably remember the sting > > > > > > of jealously, perhaps even get caught up in chilling thrill of > > > > > > envy. But can they plot revenge? > > > > > > > The whole story makes for a fascinating Sunday afternoon read. > > > > > > > It may also make you wonder about those occasional stories where > > > > > > animals kill children, like the one where a family cat suffocated a > > > > > > baby. What if the cat was insanely jealous at the new arrival > > > > > > getting all the attention, and knew exactly what it was doing? > > > > > > > The moral politics of dogs will be confusing enough, but are we > > > > > > ready to comprehend the mostly remorseless, unemphatic moral > > > > > > politics of cats? > > > > > > >http://yournewreality.blogspot.com/2008/12/do-dogs-keep-mental-shit-l...- > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
