Mikey:

Instead of the Bush plan, let's change the name to the Smith Plan or
the Jones Plan.

On Dec 24, 8:26 am, "mike [ happy holidays ] 532"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> i am against the bush plan not for it .
>
> On Dec 24, 8:23 am, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > why don't you keep your freaking lack of a conscience out of my health
> > care murky.
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> > On Dec 24, 8:19 am, "mike [a nasty combo ] 532"
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> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > that is where the problem pops up lew . suppose you get hurt and need
> > > blood or some other procedure the doctor / nurse doesn't agree with
> > > for what ever reason . they not only don't have to treat you they
> > > don't have to tell where you can get the help you need to survive .
>
> > > On Dec 24, 8:09 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > Go to different health care providers.
>
> > > > I'ts a free country.
>
> > > > Freedom doesn't mean "your way or the highway."
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> > > > On Dec 24, 7:53 am, "mike [a nasty combo ] 532"
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> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Keep your freaking conscience out of my health 
> > > > > carehttp://www.lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=1663           That’s
> > > > > quite a goodbye kiss George W. Bush just blew America (not to mention
> > > > > a big wet one to the Religious Right). This from the Washington
> > > > > Post::
>
> > > > > The Bush administration yesterday granted sweeping new protections to
> > > > > health workers who refuse to provide care that violates their
> > > > > personal
> > > > > beliefs, setting off an intense battle over opponents’ plans to try
> > > > > to
> > > > > repeal the measure.
>
> > > > > Critics began consulting with the incoming Obama administration on
> > > > > strategies to reverse the regulation as quickly as possible while
> > > > > supporters started mobilizing to fight such efforts.
>
> > > > > The far-reaching regulation cuts off federal funding for any state or
> > > > > local government, hospital, health plan, clinic or other entity that
> > > > > does not accommodate doctors, nurses, pharmacists and other employees
> > > > > who refuse to participate in care they find ethically, morally or
> > > > > religiously objectionable. It was sought by conservative groups,
> > > > > abortion opponents and others to safeguard workers from being fired,
> > > > > disciplined or penalized in other ways.
>
> > > > > It would be hard to overstate the damage this absurd regulation could
> > > > > cause. Let’s say, for example, you want to fill a prescription for
> > > > > birth control pills? Maybe you even view this as your right, given
> > > > > Griswold v. Connecticut and all that.
>
> > > > > Silly girl. It isn’t up to you (or your doctor) at all: it’s entirely
> > > > > up to the personal beliefs of the pharmacist on duty. If he (or she)
> > > > > disapproves of contraception in general, or simply disapproves of you
> > > > > getting contraception — because, say, you’re unmarried (you hussy) —
> > > > > he has an absolute right to refuse to fill the prescription.
>
> > > > > And you’ll be left with no recourse, except perhaps to fume, unless
> > > > > you’re prepared to drive from pharmacy to pharmacy (assuming you have
> > > > > that option) until you find a less “morally committed” pharmacist.
>
> > > > > It’s a question of priorities, I suppose. According to Bush and his
> > > > > new regulation, the pharmacist’s ethical objection to, well, you
> > > > > know,
> > > > > doing his job is more important than your constitutional right to
> > > > > privacy, not to mention your dignity as a person.
>
> > > > > Even more troubling, of course, is the impact this rule could have on
> > > > > the rights of rape victims, some of whom will inevitably face
> > > > > interference in efforts to obtain emergency contraception. Given the
> > > > > time-sensitive nature of such treatment, an arbitrary “act of
> > > > > conscience” by a key hospital employee could doom the victim to an
> > > > > unwanted pregnancy by her rapist.
>
> > > > > But then that’s the idea, isn’t it?
>
> > > > > And we haven’t even touched on the most absurd aspect of this
> > > > > particular act of Bush & Co. stupidity. Under the literal language of
> > > > > the regulation, birth control clinics would be prohibited (at the
> > > > > risk
> > > > > of losing federal funding) from “discriminating” against job seekers
> > > > > who have moral objections to birth control. In other words, clinics
> > > > > could be forced to hire and retain employees who refuse, for alleged
> > > > > ethical reasons, to carry out the basic functions of their jobs.
>
> > > > > It isn’t hard to see where this is going. If the regulation stands,
> > > > > antiabortion groups will soon begin sending “undercover” job seekers
> > > > > to abortion clinics associated with health care providers that
> > > > > receive
> > > > > federal funds, with the specific intention of sabotaging the clinics’
> > > > > operations. “It is going to cause chaos among providers across the
> > > > > country,” predicted Cecile Richards of Planned Parenthood, quoted in
> > > > > the Post article.
>
> > > > > But then that’s the idea, isn’t it?
>
> > > > > Hopefully, Congress and/or the Obama Administration will find a way
> > > > > to
> > > > > quickly repeal this monstrosity. In the meanwhile, join me in praying
> > > > > for the rapid and safe arrival of the 20th of January- Hide quoted 
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