Ah yes, you know who lied in a "he said she said" situation... Or is that you ideological blinders tripping you up again???
On Dec 24, 11:40 am, "mike [ happy holidays ] 532" <[email protected]> wrote: > why don't you post something showing how the speaker of the house lied > about dead eye dick ? > > On Dec 24, 10:41 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Pathetic that Jay Rockefeller and Nancy Pelosi lied and call Dick > > Cheney a liar. > > > As low as slime can get. > > > On Dec 24, 9:40 am, "mike [ happy holidays ] 532" > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Cheney Lies on Fox: Congress Told Us We Didn't Need Approval for > > > Spyinghttp://www.alternet.org/blogs/rights/114607/ > > > Cheney’s startling claims run directly counter to accounts by House > > > Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Jay Rockefeller > > > In an interview with Fox News' Chris Wallace yesterday morning, Vice > > > President Dick Cheney defended the Bush administration's warrantless > > > wiretapping program and claimed that the congressional leaders > > > briefed > > > on the program wholeheartedly approved. In fact, Cheney claimed, when > > > the White House asked if it needed congressional approval for the > > > program, they unanimously agreed it did not: > > > > CHENEY: We briefed them on the program and what we'd achieved and how > > > it worked and asked them should we continue the program. They were > > > unanimous, Republican and Democrat alike. All agreed: Absolutely > > > essential to continue the program. I then said, Do we need to come to > > > the Congress and get additional legislating authorization to continue > > > what we're doing? They said absolutely not. Don't do it. > > > > Watch it: > > > > Cheney's startling claims run directly counter to accounts by House > > > Speaker Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V. > > > Rather than asking for congressional input, Pelosi and Rockefeller > > > said in 2005 that Cheney simply informed them of what was going on -- > > > and ignored their objections: > > > > PELOSI: The Bush Administration considered these briefings to be > > > notification, not a request for approval. As is my practice whenever > > > I > > > am notified about such intelligence activities, I expressed my strong > > > concerns during these briefings. > > > > ROCKEFELLER: The record needs to be set clear that the administration > > > never afforded members briefed on the program an opportunity to > > > either > > > approve or disapprove the NSA program. > > > > Other congressional members who attended those briefings have said > > > that they were told only the barest outlines of the program. House > > > Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., said > > > that the White House never disclosed that it was skirting the Foreign > > > Intelligence Surveillance Act to eavesdrop on Americans without > > > warrants. Former Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Sen. Bob > > > Graham, D-Fla., said the same thing: > > > > The assumption was that if we did that, we would do it pursuant to > > > the > > > law, the law that regulates the surveillance of national security > > > issues. And there was no suggestion that we were going to begin > > > eavesdropping on United States citizens without following the full > > > law. ... There was no reference made to the fact that we were going > > > to > > > use that as the subterfuge to begin unwarranted, illegal -- and I > > > think unconstitutional -- eavesdropping on American citizens. > > > > What's more, Rockefeller, then vice chairman of the Intelligence > > > Committee, sent a handwritten letter to Cheney in 2003 to "reiterate > > > [his] concerns" about the wiretapping program. "I feel unable to > > > fully > > > evaluate, much less endorse these activities," he wrote. > > > > Cheney claims to have suggested seeking congressional approval right > > > away. However, the White House put up a stiff fight just a few years > > > later, when Congress finally sought to impose oversight of the > > > wiretapping program. The vice president has already presented > > > misleading information about the dates and frequency of these > > > supposed > > > briefings; now he appears to be offering misleading descriptions of > > > them.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
