And same to you too, Mike. No, it is just the Libertarian in me. On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:24 AM, mike [never forget] 532 < [email protected]> wrote:
> > once again we agree on smething . the world must be coming to an end > faster then i thought . by the way happy holidays travis . > > On Dec 26, 8:22 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > He is another itinerate godseller and I have no use for him or any of the > > others of his ilk. period. > > > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:17 AM, mike [never forget] 532 < > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > true but warren is an Evengelical not a Christian > > > > > On Dec 26, 8:06 am, margareth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > In Genesis 1 vs 29... God created man, to have dominion over the > > > > animals. (Interestingly that is the only creation that does not say > > > > that god saw that it was good). To be a lord, or to have dominion > > > > suggests that there is an implied responsibility for their > > > > stewardship. i.e. that the master expects to return to find the > earth, > > > > and the master's property to be in better shape that when he left > > > > it. > > > > > > On Dec 26, 7:34 am, NavyBrat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > He's not running for anything...its just a little invocation. Your > > > > > leader chose him...get over it. > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 5:26 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Rick Warren: The Serpent Who Hates Sciencehttp:// > > >www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/115325/ > > > > > > "From the very beginning of creation, God gave man dominion over > all > > > > > > that was made, even over the dinosaurs." Warren's > recorded > > > > > > remarks about science, available on the Saddleback's revised > site, > > > > > > are very important for a couple reasons. Throughout his > teachings, > > > > > > Pastor Rick reminds his followers that > > > > > > > > The Bible commands us to remember the influence we have on an > > > > > > unbeliever. > > > > > > > > Melissa Etheridge, are you listening? > > > > > > > > This recording shows that Warren wants his followers to be nice > while > > > > > > evangelizing to shift the view point of the scientific community > away > > > > > > from science and towards a New Earth fundamentalist thought > process > > > > > > (not to say that you can't believe in God and in science). > > > > > > > > More importantly, this snippet demonstrates that Warren feels > that he > > > > > > and his followers should act nicely towards non-believers, > gradually > > > > > > bringing them around to thinking along a fundamentalist lines, to > > > > > > "change" their ways of thinking. > > > > > > > > It's not them and us...To act like it's them and us sets us a > false > > > > > > barrier that we need to break through as believers...These are > people > > > > > > who need to know Christ just like you and I need to know Christ. > If > > > > > > you and I start to act like it's a them and us kind of a thing > we're > > > > > > never gonna reach the scientific community or those who think > qoute > > > > > > unquote scientifically...Obviously science is willing to > change... > > > > > > > > Here's how Rick came to believe in creationism and rejection > > > > > > evolutionism (from a PDF of the site before it was revised): > > > > > > > > I believed that evolution and the account of the Bible about > creation > > > > > > could exist along side of each other very well. I just didn't see > > > what > > > > > > the big argument was all about. I had some friends who had been > > > > > > studying the Bible much longer than I had who saw it > > > > > > differently...Eventually, I came to the conclusion, through my > study > > > > > > of the Bible and science, that the two positions of evolution and > > > > > > creation just could not fit together. There are some real > problems > > > > > > with the idea that God created through evolution... My prayer is > that > > > > > > you will have this same experience! > > > > > > > > And just to let you know what that brainwashing experience > entails, > > > > > > here's what Pastor Rick said about dinosaurs: > > > > > > > > The Bible's picture is that dinosaurs and man lived together on > the > > > > > > earth, an earth that was filled with > > > > > > vegetation and beauty...man and dinosaurs lived at the same > > > > > > time...From the very beginning of creation, God gave man dominion > > > over > > > > > > all that was made, even over the dinosaurs. > > > > > > > > Warren also urges his followers to eschew in vitro fertilization > and > > > > > > stem cell research: > > > > > > > > *Deciding against any infertility options that allow embryos to > be > > > > > > frozen and later discarded. (This is a tough decision for couples > who > > > > > > have yet to have a child.) > > > > > > *Deciding to speak out against overzealous stem cell research, > even > > > > > > though you know it slows down the process of finding a possible > cure > > > > > > for someone you love. > > > > > > > > Rick Warren's approach of being open and friendly is simply > sneaky. > > > > > > He's deceptive in his kindness, much like the fundamentalist's > > > snake.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- *~@):~{> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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