Marky: It was in concert with the UN until the UN turned cowardly and would support no action against Saddam's crimes.
It looks like, we then parted ways to defend our country. As we know, the UN fled Iraq. On Dec 26, 9:58�am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > You fail to address the point once again Lew. > > Was the unilateral US action in concert with the UN or not ?? > > �It is a simple question. > > On another level I ask; How can I be a liberal loon or qualify for a > US political title when I do not live there ?? > > On 12/26/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear UnAnnointed: > > > You, too, are a Liberal Loon. > > > On Dec 26, 9:29 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I did not realize that the invasion of Iraq had anything to do with > > > the UN. > > > > On Dec 26, 8:12 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Mike: > > > > > Oh. > > > > > Then, here is why we went into Iraq: > > > > > The IRAQ �invasion was L-E-G-AL and J-U-S-T-I-F-I-E-D. > > > > > Did you ever wonder why Saddam was a allowed to remain as president of > > > > Iraq after he got clobbered by the U.S. in the 1991 Gulf War? > > > > > Think he may have agreed to some surrender terms to allow him to stay > > > > in power? > > > > > Think he ever fulfilled those surrender terms?? > > > > > Read UN Resolution # 687. �Saddam was given 15 days-- from April 3 > > > > until April 18, 1991 to fulfill the terms of his surrender. > > > > > By April of 2003 - 4,390 days AFTER his deadline, he still had not met > > > > the terms of his surrender. > > > > > Ever wonder why U.S. planes were over-flying Iraq all the years > > > > between 1991 and 2003, putting our pilots in danger? > > > > > P.S.: � Read UN Resolution # 687 of April 3, 1991 THEN Read UN > > > > Resolution 1440 of the Fall of 2002 - which state that Saddam still > > > > had not fulfilled Resolution #687. > > > > > Do think you would be legally �allowed to remain living in your house > > > > for 12 years (4,390 days) without ever making a mortgage payment - if > > > > you owed a mortgage??? > > > > > On Dec 26, 8:53 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > i didn't say anything about needing it i said bush invaded to gain > > > > > control of the Iraqi oil fields ! > > > > > > On Dec 26, 8:49 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Mikey: > > > > > > > We don't need Iraqi oil. > > > > > > > Drill off our continental shelf. �The fish don't mind and we own it. > > > > > > > Drill in ANWR. �The caribou love it and we own it. > > > > > > > Why in the heck woul;d we want to go to Iraq for oil??? and we don't > > > > > > own it and they are a bunch of nuts. > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 8:32 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > lew as hard as it is for you to understand it was bush who > > > > > > > ordered the > > > > > > > troops to Iraq in order to take control of the oil fields . Not > > > > > > > Obama ! > > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 8:20 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Obama didn't bother them anyone on the battlefield . > > > > > > > > > He only went a couple of times and voted against the military > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > chance he got. > > > > > > > > Obama voted for "U.S. Death," �and "Humiliating" �U.S. losses. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 8:01 am, margareth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how much of the war effort is required for the > > > > > > > > > frequent trips > > > > > > > > > made to the front lines by senior politicians. I also wonder > > > > > > > > > if all > > > > > > > > > the NCOs, �and Privates get to have any free time, or do they > > > > > > > > > pull so > > > > > > > > > much guard duty that they are exhausted. > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 7:49 am, NavyBrat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah...pretty cool. Too bad he got knocked arround for a it > > > > > > > > > > bit. I'm > > > > > > > > > > sure he thought it was well worth the insult tho. > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 5:44 am, "mike [never forget] 532" > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > i love the fact that the people of the world see the man > > > > > > > > > > > who paid bush > > > > > > > > > > > the highest insult one person can give another as a world > > > > > > > > > > > hero . > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 7:24 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > By P.J. Gladnick (Bio | Archive) > > > > > > > > > > > > December 25, 2008 - 18:25 ET > > > > > > > > > > > > mewsbusters.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Employees of McClatchy publishing in Iraq were in an > > > > > > > > > > > > unusually good > > > > > > > > > > > > mood recently. The occasion was the aftermath of the > > > > > > > > > > > > Iraqi journalist > > > > > > > > > > > > who tossed his shoes at President Bush at a press > > > > > > > > > > > > conference in > > > > > > > > > > > > Baghdad as you can see in these quotes from Inside > > > > > > > > > > > > Iraq, a blog for > > > > > > > > > > > > McClatchy journalists working in that country. The > > > > > > > > > > > > first quote was > > > > > > > > > > > > from McClatchy employee, "Laith," who was talking about > > > > > > > > > > > > his colleagues > > > > > > > > > > > > and the rest of the quotes were from commentors who may > > > > > > > > > > > > or may not be > > > > > > > > > > > > employed by McClatchy: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the guys were happy and they were talking about > > > > > > > > > > > > the bravery of > > > > > > > > > > > > the journalist who threw his shoes at the American > > > > > > > > > > > > president. When I > > > > > > > > > > > > tried to explain my opinion, I was trying to tell the > > > > > > > > > > > > guys that I > > > > > > > > > > > > don't agree with the way the journalist behaved, but I > > > > > > > > > > > > was attacked by > > > > > > > > > > > > them. One of them said "come on Laith, Bush destroyed > > > > > > > > > > > > Iraq". Another > > > > > > > > > > > > said "he deserves more" while a third one said "he is > > > > > > > > > > > > an occupier." I > > > > > > > > > > > > tried to tell to tell they guys that this is an inslut > > > > > > > > > > > > for Maliki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The "Shoe heard round the world" was an important > > > > > > > > > > > > symbolic event. I > > > > > > > > > > > > felt his action was appropriate and restrained > > > > > > > > > > > > considering the > > > > > > > > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I applauded this act. I don't care that it is rude. Why > > > > > > > > > > > > are we > > > > > > > > > > > > concerned about etiquette when a country was destroyed? > > > > > > > > > > > > Did Bush ever > > > > > > > > > > > > apologize to the Iraqis for the hundreds of thousands > > > > > > > > > > > > of dead? Bush is > > > > > > > > > > > > an occupier, a clown pretending to be a hero, so > > > > > > > > > > > > enclosed in his own > > > > > > > > > > > > little self-certain world he probably was surprised an > > > > > > > > > > > > Iraqi could be > > > > > > > > > > > > that angry. I am not surprised. I am only surprised > > > > > > > > > > > > such a thing did > > > > > > > > > > > > not happen earlier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, yes, my little McClatchy journalists. Better get > > > > > > > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > > enjoyment you can out of the shoe tossing incident > > > > > > > > > > > > because soon there > > > > > > > > > > > > will be another tossing event that you will not > > > > > > > > > > > > appreciate quite so > > > > > > > > > > > > much: namely being tossed out of your jobs. While you > > > > > > > > > > > > are busy > > > > > > > > > > > > cheering on the shoe tosser, perhaps you might not have > > > > > > > > > > > > noticed that > > > > > > > > > > > > the McClatchy stock price has plunged about 99% �to a > > > > > > > > > > > > mere 75 cents > > > > > > > > > > > > per share from where it was in 2005 at almost $80 per > > > > > > > > > > > > share when your > > > > > > > > > > > > CEO, Gary Pruitt (photo), began going on a spending > > > > > > > > > > > > spree buying up > > > > > > > > > > > > newspapers when it was already clear to almost any sane > > > > > > > > > > > > person that > > > > > > > > > > > > print media was in a permanent downswing due to the > > > > > > > > > > > > internet. Pruitt's > > > > > > > > > > > > purchase of newspapers around the country goes down in > > > > > > > > > > > > the history of > > > > > > > > > > > > stupid business decisions with Quaker Oats' purchase of > > > > > > > > > > > > Snapple and > > > > > > > > > > > > Schlitz beer's decision to cut costs by changing its > > > > > > > > > > > > fermentation > > > > > > > > > > > > process (along with its taste). > > > > > > > > > > > > > The result is that McClatchy is in the process of > > > > > > > > > > > > attempting to get > > > > > > > > > > > > rid of many of its newspapers at much less than Pruitt > > > > > > > > > > > > paid for them > > > > > > > > > > > > including the Miami Herald which still has no buyers > > > > > > > > > > > > interested in > > > > > > > > > > > > purchasing that losing enterprise. In fact, Pruitt's > > > > > > > > > > > > Folly has gotten > > > > > > > > > > > > so bad that in his own words he is having trouble > > > > > > > > > > > > finding a buyer just > > > > > > > > > > > > for the Herald parking lot: > > > > > > > > > > > > > We're selling 10 acres of land, a parking lot adjacent > > > > > > > > > > > > to The Miami > > > > > > > > > > > > Herald building for a price of $190 million. We have a > > > > > > > > > > > > good dialogue > > > > > > > > > > > > with the sellers and we're hopeful that that deal > > > > > > > > > > > > closes. It's a real > > > > > > > > > > > > estate contract which means we can't guarantee that > > > > > > > > > > > > that deal will > > > > > > > > > > > > close. We're hopeful that it will and 100% of the > > > > > > > > > > > > proceeds, which > > > > > > > > > > > > after tax would be about $115 million, will be used to > > > > > > > > > > > > pay down debt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Pruitt isn't alone in his total cluelessness. As > > > > > > > > > > > > we have seen in > > > > > > > > > > > > these pages, Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger, publisher of > > > > > > > > > > > > the New York > > > > > > > > > > > > Times, is every bit as capable of making incredibly > > > > > > > > > > > > stupid business > > > > > > > > > > > > decisions as Pruitt. �However, at least Pinch has the > > > > > > > > > > > > excuse of being > > > > > > > > > > > > born with the correct family name and living through > > > > > > > > > > > > birth for being > > > > > > > > > > > > given a task he can't handle. What's your excuse, Gary? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most astonishing thing about Gary Pruitt is that he > > > > > > > > > > > > is still CEO > > > > > > > > > > > > of McClatchy. What more bad news do the stockholders > > > > > > > > > > > > need to fire > > > > > > > > > > > > him? �For every thousand dollars of stock purchased in > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, they are > > > > > > > > > > > > now left with a mere ten bucks of value...and perhaps > > > > > > > > > > > > even less in the > > > > > > > > > > > > very near future. And yet Pruitt remains at the helm. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another > > > > > > > > > > > > mysterious thing about Pruitt is why he has not quit > > > > > > > > > > > > McClatchy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the salary, bonuses for underachievement, and > > > > > > > > > > > > the fringe > > ... > > read more �- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
