Get rid of depts of education and hud. And most of the 450 fed agencies. On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:12 AM, mike [never forget] 532 < [email protected]> wrote:
> > talk about a stupid idea wow ! how did you come up with that one ? > > On Dec 29, 7:09 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > No federal aid for states. No tax increases period. Keep all Bush tax > cuts. > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:03 AM, mike [never forget] 532 < > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Fifty Herbert Hoovers > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/29/opinion/29krugman.html?th&emc=th > > > No modern American president would repeat the fiscal mistake of 1932, > > > in which the federal government tried to balance its budget in the > > > face of a severe recession. The Obama administration will put deficit > > > concerns on hold while it fights the economic crisis. > > > > > But even as Washington tries to rescue the economy, the nation will > > > be > > > reeling from the actions of 50 Herbert Hoovers — state governors who > > > are slashing spending in a time of recession, often at the expense > > > both of their most vulnerable constituents and of the nation's > > > economic future. > > > > > These state-level cutbacks range from small acts of cruelty to giant > > > acts of panic — from cuts in South Carolina's juvenile justice > > > program, which will force young offenders out of group homes and into > > > prison, to the decision by a committee that manages California state > > > spending to halt all construction outlays for six months. > > > > > Now, state governors aren't stupid (not all of them, anyway). They're > > > cutting back because they have to — because they're caught in a > > > fiscal > > > trap. But let's step back for a moment and contemplate just how crazy > > > it is, from a national point of view, to be cutting public services > > > and public investment right now. > > > > > Think about it: is America — not state governments, but the nation as > > > a whole — less able to afford help to troubled teens, medical care > > > for > > > families, or repairs to decaying roads and bridges than it was one or > > > two years ago? Of course not. Our capacity hasn't been diminished; > > > our > > > workers haven't lost their skills; our technological know-how is > > > intact. Why can't we keep doing good things? > > > > > It's true that the economy is currently shrinking. But that's the > > > result of a slump in private spending. It makes no sense to add to > > > the > > > problem by cutting public spending, too. > > > > > In fact, the true cost of government programs, especially public > > > investment, is much lower now than in more prosperous times. When the > > > economy is booming, public investment competes with the private > > > sector > > > for scarce resources — for skilled construction workers, for capital. > > > But right now many of the workers employed on infrastructure projects > > > would otherwise be unemployed, and the money borrowed to pay for > > > these > > > projects would otherwise sit idle. > > > > > And shredding the social safety net at a moment when many more > > > Americans need help isn't just cruel. It adds to the sense of > > > insecurity that is one important factor driving the economy down. > > > > > So why are we doing this to ourselves? > > > > > The answer, of course, is that state and local government revenues > > > are > > > plunging along with the economy — and unlike the federal government, > > > lower-level governments can't borrow their way through the crisis. > > > Partly that's because these governments, unlike the feds, are subject > > > to balanced-budget rules. But even if they weren't, running temporary > > > deficits would be difficult. Investors, driven by fear, are refusing > > > to buy anything except federal debt, and those states that can borrow > > > at all are being forced to pay punitive interest rates. > > > > > Are governors responsible for their own predicament? To some extent. > > > Arnold Schwarzenegger, in particular, deserves some jeers. He became > > > governor in the first place because voters were outraged over his > > > predecessor's budget problems, but he did nothing to secure the > > > state's fiscal future — and he now faces a projected budget deficit > > > bigger than the one that did in Gray Davis. > > > > > But even the best-run states are in deep trouble. Anyway, we > > > shouldn't > > > punish our fellow citizens and our economy to spite a few local > > > politicians. > > > > > What can be done? Ted Strickland, the governor of Ohio, is pushing > > > for > > > federal aid to the states on three fronts: help for the neediest, in > > > the form of funding for food stamps and Medicaid; federal funding of > > > state- and local-level infrastructure projects; and federal aid to > > > education. That sounds right — and if the numbers Mr. Strickland > > > proposes are huge, so is the crisis. > > > > > And once the crisis is behind us, we should rethink the way we pay > > > for > > > key public services. > > > > > As a nation, we don't believe that our fellow citizens should go > > > without essential health care. Why, then, does a large share of > > > funding for Medicaid come from state governments, which are forced to > > > cut the program precisely when it's needed most? > > > > > An educated population is a national resource. Why, then, is basic > > > education mainly paid for by local governments, which are forced to > > > neglect the next generation every time the economy hits a rough > > > patch? > > > > > And why should investments in infrastructure, which will serve the > > > nation for decades, be at the mercy of short-run fluctuations in > > > local > > > budgets? > > > > > That's for later. The priority right now is to fight off the attack > > > of > > > the 50 Herbert Hoovers, and make sure that the fiscal problems of the > > > states don't make the economic crisis even worse. > > > > -- > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- *~@):~{> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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