the siege should end when hamas is eliminated, and not one second before. eliminate the vermin, and you improve the neighborhood.
On Jan 6, 6:23 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > It is Israel who has been/is under seige from the entire Arab world > after enduring Christian Europe/Russia and America. As if the USSR > didn't collapse into class divisions-LOL. > > On Jan 6, 3:38 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Workers throughout the world are outraged by the atrocities being > > committed by Israel (a proxy of US imperialism), This outrage is > > further inflamed by governments promulgating the lie that mass murder > > is in fact self defence. > > > Pressuring imperialist governments or the UN, which is nothing more > > than a thieves kitchen is futile. This massacre has exposed the class > > divisions in society and whose interests they serve. > > > Governments and big business support imperialist plunder and the > > sacrifice of the lives of the working class to secure natural > > resources and markets for their commodities. Workers have no interest > > in slaughtering their class brothers; they have nothing to gain by > > such acts of barbarism and so are horrified by Israeli atrocities. > > > It is clear that the desire for fraternal peace, goodwill and equality > > is to be found overwhelmingly amongst the world's working class and > > that the only thing preventing this is the division of the world into > > competing hostile nation states controlled by a tiny layer of the > > super rich and their government and union henchmen. > > > This is not a matter of religion or race; it is a matter of > > diametrically opposed class interests. > > > The mass spontaneous eruption of protests by the world's workers > > highlights the desire for fraternal unity based on the highest moral > > principles of respect for the right to life and freedom from > > oppression and exploitation. The only way--THE ONLY WAY--that the > > senseless slaughter, especially over the last 100 years, will cease is > > when the workers unite with their class brothers and sisters and take > > power into their own hands, rejecting dead end nationalism and > > bourgeois organizations such as Hama. There is no other way. > > > Workers of the world unite. You have only your chains to lose and a > > world to win. > > > No god, no country, no master. > > One world, one human race. > > > On Jan 6, 3:10 pm, Morpheal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > GAZA IS HISTORY REPEATING - ANOTHER TOTAL FAILURE OF HUMANITY > > > > THE WORLD COMMUNITY MUST BREAK THE SIEGE OF GAZA > > > > ONE MILLION FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND HUMAN BEINGS ARE > > > NOW FACING THE IMMEDIATE DANGER OF IMMANENT PERISHING > > > > No one has ever won over a population by a long process of deprivation > > > and harassment, followed by mass brutality, traumatic wounding of > > > bodies and minds, besieging with terror and inflicting death. History > > > has taught that again, and again. Repeating that error is not > > > humanity’s progress, but is in fact its decline. > > > > The principle of besieging, depriving, militarily beating, a > > > population always required continued and persistent oppression to > > > guard against their rising up against the oppressors after the fact of > > > that oppression. Nations and empires could subdue, by military means, > > > if they were willing to continue to subdue by intensive military > > > involvement. When that subjugation came to an end, usually due to > > > overextended and strained or failing military resources, the > > > conquering power inevitably failed. We have seen every empire and > > > nation that followed that same pattern of aggressive subjugation fail. > > > None has ever succeeded, in the long term. Each has had to invest an > > > increasing amount of military commitment to continue its subjugation > > > of the growing hatred that came from conquest. Primitive lessons that > > > many “advanced” nations have failed to learn. Some nations have not > > > advanced in their humanity and in terms of their civilization in > > > thousands of years. They still insist that they must repeat the same > > > errors of ancient history. > > > > We must also consider that if a gang of criminals (or terrorists) is > > > active in a city we cannot punish the whole city. We know that people > > > in a condition of fear will choose those they see as stronger, often > > > allowing bullies, those perceived as the strongest men in their > > > community, into power. People often feel they have no choice. It is > > > the act of those who have been made too afraid, for too long, and who > > > feel victimized and powerless already. That is when dictators rise up. > > > That is when extremism rises up among a population making it victim. > > > Severe economic hardships, persistent victimization, harassment from > > > another power, a feeling of being consistently oppressed and deprived, > > > kept in a condition of constant and increasing fear about the > > > increasingly uncertain and difficult future, is the socio-economic > > > decay in which political evil begins to grow and thrive. If you add > > > more of the same decay, the way one adds manure to a farm field, you > > > can expect more growth. In the instance of political evil. The people / > > > remain the victims of circumstances that they themselves did not > > > cause, and cannot themselves find any ways to change. The cure for the > > > situation would have been to further socio-economic growth, to provide > > > for human needs, building new trust in peace and a partnership in > > > progress to better meeting real human needs. > > > > When the people feel secure and protected, are provided for, they will > > > tend to eliminate the criminals themselves. The criminals will lose > > > their power over them. The bullies will no longer have gangs to follow > > > them. Those do not thrive in any semblance to normalcy and reasonable > > > human prosperity. They thrive in difficult situations of human > > > suffering. A ghetto is a ghetto, even if it is 1.5 million people. > > > Gaza was being turned into an Israeli run ghetto, a prison in effect. > > > In prisons and ghettos, all manner of thugs, bullies, toughs, tend to > > > rise up and “run” the inmates. A simple study of prison societies will > > > provide adequate proof. Imprison a whole population and the same > > > sociology becomes applicable. > > > > People are won over by care, concern, understanding, provision for > > > needs, kindness, and generosity, rather than persistent abuse. > > > Winning over the people does not require military action. Completely > > > to the contrary. Winning them over with kindness and generosity would > > > have destroyed the power that had been gained by any criminals (intent > > > on acts of violence as their chosen means of political expression). > > > > We can only hope that the humanity of those who oppose Israel’s > > > inhumanity in Gaza is far greater, and that it would not seek to > > > inflict upon all of Israel a similar fate to that which it has > > > inflicted on Gaza. Inhumanity does give rise to inhumanity. The fact > > > that there are war criminals, does not imply that all of the people of > > > Israel should suffer because of that gang of bullies and the wrongs > > > they have inflicted. This is the same principle as is applicable to > > > the fact that all of Gaza should never have to suffer because of the > > > wrongs done by a gang of bullies from among them. > > > > The danger is real. Those treated as if they are wild beasts, being > > > hunted as prey, will become wild beasts and will hunt their prey. They > > > learn the lesson that is taught to them on the basis of how they are > > > treated. Treated in inhuman, brutal, ways, most people tend to become > > > inhuman and brutal. True humanity is about breaking that cycle of > > > violence, of inhumanity and brutality. > > > > We must recognize that the innocents: infants, children, women, non > > > combatants, far outnumber those who are guilty of actual acts of > > > violence. They outnumber them at least 50 to 1. That is if we accept > > > the 25,000 number that has been claimed to be the strength of the > > > Hamas fighting force. That is one million four hundred and seventy > > > five thousand innocent people, now virtually without sewage treatment > > > and pumping, electricity, fuel for heat and cooking, food to eat, > > > medicine, and safety from violence and terror. > > > > The world must do anything necessary to immediately end the wrongful > > > siege of Gaza. > > > > The siege of Gaza must be broken by any means necessary to break it. > > > Diplomatic or otherwise. > > > For the sake of one million four hundred and seventy five thousand > > > human beings who are now entering the condition of immediate peril to > > > their continued survival. > > > > Robert Morpheal- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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