wolfy, show us all one example of where your marxist, socialist system
has worked.  come on this should be easy.  just one example out of all
mankinds history.

On Jan 19, 4:49 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Conservatism and Liberalism, two sides of the same coin in the service
> of US imperialism.
>
> It is glaringly obvious that the main difference between the GOP and
> the Dems is that of rhetoric and not substance. Both parties are
> agreed that the US is justified in waging genocidal wars of
> imperialist barbarism to maintain its tenuous grip as the world’s
> hegemon due to the collapse of its economy. Both parties are also in
> complete agreement that public spending must be slashed so trillions
> of taxpayers’ dollars can be gifted to Wall St Criminals.
>
> President Bush declared in the introduction of the 2002 “National
> Security Strategy’ a document that asserts as the guiding policy of
> the United States the right to use military force anywhere in the
> world, at any time it chooses, against any country it believes to be,
> or it believes may at some point become, a threat to American interests
> —that America’s values “are right and true for every person, in every
> society...”
>
> The ‘American Civil Liberties Union’ recently declared in response to
> Obama’s intention to shut down Guantanamo (that he still supports the
> use of torture goes without saying),   “nothing would make me prouder
> than to see you act on your first day in office to restore America's
> moral leadership in the world and act in defense of American
> freedom.”
>
> The main concern of Liberals, just like conservatives, is to restore
> the US to its former omnipotent position as the benevolent overseer
> and maintainer of world peace and Democracy (as opposed to a harbinger
> of death, misery and destruction)—and nothing more. And just like
> Conservatives Liberals rejoice and worship the deceitful lies that
> their representatives spew out, just as blindly and subserviently as
> Conservatives bathe in the filth spewed out by their misanthropic
> representatives.
>
> In absolute terms Liberals, in their self righteous ignorance, will
> bear a great deal of responsibility for the continuation of the death,
> destruction and misery that will characterize the Obama presidency. It
> will be only a matter of months, possibly weeks, before the Liberal
> media will be howling over the betrayals of Obama that will be largely
> due to their contemptible intellectual cowardice and capitulation.
>
> So Liberals, before you hurl your next parting salvo at the
> Neanderthal Bush and prepare for a new beginning based on the
> meaningless sound-bytes  “this is our time, this is our moment” and
> “Yes we can” remember that people that live in glass houses should not
> throw stones.
>
> From Bush to Obama: On the eve of a “seamless transition”
> By Patrick Martin
> 17 January 2009
> Three days before the inauguration of the 44th president of the United
> States, the distinctions have largely been effaced between the
> outgoing and incoming administrations.
> George W. Bush is, as even the corporate-controlled media admits, the
> most hated and despised president in American history. Barack Obama
> is, at least according to the opinion polls that measure popular
> moods, the beneficiary of a temporary honeymoon period in which hope
> outweighs experience and many are inclined to "give him a chance."
>
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jan2009/obam-j17.shtml
>
> Obama’s national security team and the failure of American democracy
> 2 December 2008
> The formal introduction of the incoming Obama administration's
> national security team at a Chicago hotel on Monday provided a
> definitive exposure not merely of the fraudulent character of the
> "change you can believe in" mantra of the Democratic presidential
> campaign, but more importantly of the failure of American democracy
> itself.
>
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/dec2008/pers-d02.shtml
>
> “The Founding Fathers did lead the war for independence from Britain.
> But they did not do it for the equal right of all to life, liberty,
> and equality. Their intention was to set up a new government that
> would protect the property of slave owners, land speculators,
> merchants, and bondholders. Independence from England had already been
> secured in parts of the country by grassroots rebellion a year before
> the battles at Lexington and Concord that initiated hostilities with
> Britain. (See Ray Raphael's A Peoples History of the American
> Revolution, New Press, 2001.) It is one of the phenomena of modern
> times that revolutions are not favored unless they are led by people
> who are not revolutionaries at heart.
>
> I would rather recognize the greatness of all those who fought to make
> sure that the Founding Fathers would not betray the principles of the
> Declaration of Independence, to make sure that the dead and maimed of
> the Revolutionary War did not make their sacrifices in vain. And so I
> would honor the soldiers of the Pennsylvania and New Jersey lines, who
> mutinied against George Washington and Mad Anthony Wayne. They were
> rebelling against the luxurious treatment of their gentry officers,
> and their own mistreatment: 500 lashes for misconduct, Washington
> decreed, and execute a few mutinous leaders to set an example.
> Add to the honors list in that great generation the farmers of western
> Massachusetts who resisted the taking of their homes and land for
> nonpayment of exorbitant taxes. This was the Shays Rebellion, which
> put a fright into the Founding Fathers, especially as it led to
> uprisings in Maryland, South Carolina, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.
> That rebellion persuaded the Founding Fathers that a strong central
> government was needed to maintain law and order against unruly
> dissidents, slave rebels, and Indians. These were the true
> revolutionaries of the Revolutionary generation.”
>
> Howard Zinn “The greatest generations” 2001
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