Absolutely! It isn't like it wasn't planned that way rigs. It's shameful that elite men would manipulate societies into zombie cultures of "False Conscience" as we have become their willing mules! How could we ever live out our dreams when they snatched away
“We want one class of persons to have a liberal education, and we want another class of persons, a very much larger class, of necessity, in every society, to forgo the privileges of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks.” - Woodrow Wilson, then president of Princeton University, New York City School Teachers Association in 1909” "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." -- Herbert Spencer (1820-1903) British author, economist, philosopher 1891 On Jan 19, 6:50 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Sometimes. I've tried a full range of subjects. The most challenging > has been a complicated interior scene with Matisse on the wall, a Van > Gogh museum guide on the coffee table-starry night, image of a woman > reflected in the mirror, a complicated rug, a balcony view of the > landscape-overview perspective- I based it on "Sunday Morning"- a poem > by Wallace Stevens. I gave it away like all my paintings./ Yesterday, > a neighbor told me to write again- I told her I was writing to > forums.//I clicked off the switch about 8 years ago. And Stanley Fish > had a great op/ed today in the NYTimes about the death of a liberal > arts education in this country. It's true. > > On Jan 18, 8:24 pm, Doc Holliday <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Landscapes? > > > Peace, > > Doc > > > On Jan 18, 8:10 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It's okay , doc. I probably need to get back to painting and > > > knitting. :-) > > > > On Jan 18, 7:39 pm, Doc Holliday <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > My bad, I misinterpreted you post and assumed that you meant the Jews > > > > were doing liberty and freedom a favor by lending money. > > > > > Peace, > > > > Doc > > > > > On Jan 18, 7:28 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I didn't say it was good, doc. It was history.//Why are we bailing out > > > > > these paper pushers of OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY on Wall Street, banks and > > > > > attorneys? > > > > > > On Jan 18, 7:24 pm, Doc Holliday <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The irony is that all these nations- > > > > > > > > including Iran- used Jews to their benefit during their histories. > > > > > > > Britain defeated Napoleon with Jewish money- the Louisiana > > > > > > > Purchase > > > > > > > was small change. And that is just the beginning... > > > > > > > Like that was something good? Who ultimately stood to gain? Like who > > > > > > controls the "fiat" usury money and is not this satanic money the > > > > > > root > > > > > > of all evil? > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > Doc > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 6:30 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > If you do not consider the various Intifadas, political/religious > > > > > > > doctrines, constitutions calling for the end of Israel and the > > > > > > > Jews a > > > > > > > war crime, I would be interested in knowing what you do recognize > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > such? Hitler was also very clear about his intentions in Europe > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > '30's as was the Ottoman Empire and other empires/nations. You > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > Saddam supporting suicide bombers with cash and the Saudis raising > > > > > > > money for the Palestinians (also their ill-paid, ill-treated > > > > > > > laborers) > > > > > > > with telethons, Al-Jezeera, Egypt turning a blind eye to the > > > > > > > tunnels > > > > > > > that funnel rockets and weapons. The irony is that all these > > > > > > > nations- > > > > > > > including Iran- used Jews to their benefit during their histories. > > > > > > > Britain defeated Napoleon with Jewish money- the Louisiana > > > > > > > Purchase > > > > > > > was small change. And that is just the beginning... > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 4:04 am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > the Jews must stop committing war crimes against the > > > > > > > > Palestinians ! > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 4:02 am, "Manoj Padhi" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/18/israel.gaza/index.html > > > > > > > > > > At 2 a.m. Sunday, Israel > > > > > > > > > <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/israel> declared a > > > > > > > > > cease-fire in Gaza. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said > > > > > > > > > Israel was > > > > > > > > > prepared to respond if Hamas militants continue fighting in > > > > > > > > > Gaza. > > > > > > > > > > "If foes decide to continue to fight against us, then we will > > > > > > > > > be ready and > > > > > > > > > we shall consider ourselves justified in replying," he said. > > > > > > > > > > Hamas leaders responded, saying they did not consider > > > > > > > > > Olmert's declaration a > > > > > > > > > cease-fire as long as Israeli troops remain in the > > > > > > > > > Palestinian territory. > > > > > > > > > > Where is the withdrawal ? Where is the victory of > > > > > > > > > Palestinians ? > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps, Mr. Feroze Mithiborwala and Ghulam Muhammed have > > > > > > > > > even latest > > > > > > > > > information than CNN !! > > > > > > > > > > How come HAMAs - *the mice*, win against mighty Israel - *The > > > > > > > > > Elephant* ? > > > > > > > > > Even after 1000+ losses, the moral of the jihadi mice is > > > > > > > > > still high. Looks > > > > > > > > > like they need few more hammar shots. > > > > > > > > > > Please be assured that HAMAs can't smuggle rockets through > > > > > > > > > Egypt as US will > > > > > > > > > be supervising those transit routes;will also provide > > > > > > > > > training to Egyptian > > > > > > > > > police. When there is no more rocket left , How Hamas 'the > > > > > > > > > mice' will play > > > > > > > > > hide&seek jihad ? > > > > > > > > > > Any way.. good luck to Hamas and its supporters as their luck > > > > > > > > > has run out .. > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Padhi > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:39 AM, ghulammuhammed3 > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A W A M I B H A R A T > > > > > > > > > > > The victory of the Palestinian Resistance & Israel's > > > > > > > > > > unilateral > > > > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > > > > The Palestinian Resistance has been victorious whilst the > > > > > > > > > > Israeli Nazi army > > > > > > > > > > withdraws in ignominy and global wrath. The People of Gaza > > > > > > > > > > have withstood > > > > > > > > > > the F-16's, Helicopter gunships, tanks, ships and > > > > > > > > > > phosphorous attacks and > > > > > > > > > > have done so with extraordinary courage. > > > > > > > > > > > All that Israel achieved was the wanton destruction & death > > > > > > > > > > of children and > > > > > > > > > > civilians and residential neighbourhoods that included > > > > > > > > > > schools, hospitals, > > > > > > > > > > government buildings as well that of the United Nations. > > > > > > > > > > More than 1200 dead > > > > > > > > > > and 5000 seriously injured by the mercenary Israeli army. > > > > > > > > > > > The resistance led by Hamas still stands in defiance and > > > > > > > > > > the People of > > > > > > > > > > Palestine and the world stand in solidarity of the brave > > > > > > > > > > and courageous 1.5 > > > > > > > > > > million Gazan polulation who are challenging the collective > > > > > > > > > > might of the > > > > > > > > > > Israeli and American warmachine. > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly Hamas and the Palestinian National resistance has > > > > > > > > > > triumphed and the > > > > > > > > > > Zionist colonial project of genocidal ethnic cleansing has > > > > > > > > > > once again been > > > > > > > > > > vanquished. Palestine in 2009 and Lebanon 2006 have forever > > > > > > > > > > shattered the > > > > > > > > > > myth of Israeli military supremacy and have proved that the > > > > > > > > > > Palestinain > > > > > > > > > > resistance that stands at the vanguard of the global > > > > > > > > > > resistance to > > > > > > > > > > US-Zionist Imperialism will ultimately suceed to create an > > > > > > > > > > Independent state > > > > > > > > > > of Palestinen with Jerusalem as its capital. > > > > > > > > > > > We also salute the people across the world who took to the > > > > > > > > > > streets and > > > > > > > > > > besieged their governments. We also salute the rising tide > > > > > > > > > > of global Jewry > > > > > > > > > > against the Jewish Zionist counterparts. This struggle will > > > > > > > > > > prove critical > > > > > > > > > > for the just resolution of the Palestine - Israel conflict. > > > > > > > > > > We need to stand > > > > > > > > > > in solidarity with the Jewish people as they join the > > > > > > > > > > struggle against > > > > > > > > > > Zionist Imperialism. > > > > > > > > > > > We also salute the leadership of South America lead by > > > > > > > > > > Chavez of Venezuela > > > > > > > > > > and Morales of Bolivia for taking a clear position against > > > > > > > > > > Israel, unlike > > > > > > > > > > the collaborator regimes of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan, > > > > > > > > > > we must add. The > > > > > > > > > > anger of the Arab street, social and political movements > > > > > > > > > > will lead to > > > > > > > > > > democratic revolutions that will soon sweep away these > > > > > > > > > > dictators and > > > > > > > > > > monarchs. > > > > > > > > > > > With Israel having lost both the strategic and moral war, > > > > > > > > > > the Zionists will > > > > > > > > > > resort to even more desperate measures. The "Shoah" > > > > > > > > > > promised by the Israeli > > > > > > > > > > leadership is still a possibility. For the larger agenda of > > > > > > > > > > total ethnic > > > > > > > > > > cleansing, the Zionists need a larger war that will > > > > > > > > > > envelope both West Asia > > > > > > > > > > and the South Asian nations. In the absence of a larger war > > > > > > > > > > theatre, without > > > > > > > > > > the direct involvement of the US and NATO, Israel cannot > > > > > > > > > > succeed. > > > > > > > > > > > And thus the coming war on Iran !! > > > > > > > > > > > We need to see the growing tensions between India and > > > > > > > > > > Pakistan that are > > > > > > > > > > being fanned by the Imperial powers in this light as well. > > > > > > > > > > > The patriotic people of both India and Pakistan can > > > > > > > > > > together avert a global > > > > > > > > > > catastrophe if we refuse to be drawn in to the agenda of > > > > > > > > > > nationalist > > > > > > > > > > jingoism and war mongering. > > > > > > > > > > > We the People of Asia need to stand as one, to defeat the > > > > > > > > > > designs of both > > > > > > > > > > the Israeli European colonial power and that of the US and > > > > > > > > > > the EU. > > > > > > > > > > > This is a both a time of sorrow and triumph. Sorrow because > > > > > > > > > > of the deaths > > > > > > > > > > of thousands of children and a sense of triumph because of > > > > > > > > > > the victory of > > > > > > > > > > the Palestinian resistance. > > > > > > > > > > > Yes the souls of the children and resistance fighters of > > > > > > > > > > the Warsaw ghetto > > > > > > > > > > and found a new voice and have been resurrected in Gaza. > > > > > > > > > > And with > > > > > > > > > > resurrection, comes a new life and a new will to struggle > > > > > > > > > > and to change the > > > > > > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > Long Live Palestine !! > > > > > > > > > > > Towards a Global Intifada !! > > > > > > > > > > > Feroze Mithiborwala, Kishore Jagtap, Varsha V V, Sayeed > > > > > > > > > > Khan, Amol Madame, > > > > > > > > > > Chetna Birje, Arif Kapadia, Reshma Jatap, Afaq Azad, Irfan > > > > > > > > > > Mulla, Inayat > > > > > > > > > > Akhtar, Mulniwasi Mala, Jyoti Badekar, Jagdish Nagarkar, > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav Karia, > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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