Except for folks like the Sakas, who after conquering Afghanistan,
brought in the relatives and became the largest and dominate tribe in
many many valleys...  The Sakas as you surely recall also conquered
India for a time...

On Feb 9, 4:42 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> jgg,
>
> I stand corrected and amend as follows...
>
> No army in written history has EVER conquered and held Afghanistan.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:22 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Not true...  Alexander.   Several tribal invaders as the Saka...
> > Please READ your history...
>
> >http://www.geocities.com/pak_history/indoscythian.html
>
> > On Feb 7, 3:35 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Inall of history no one has ever "won" in Afghanistan.
>
> > > On Feb 7, 9:59 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > is the unifying thesis in the opposition to Iraq under Bush (their
> > > > were wrong) and now Afghanistan under Obama...   How will history read
> > > > if Bush won in Iraq but Obama lost in Afghanistan???
>
> > > >http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-boot7-2009feb07,.
> > ..
>
> > > > >>> It is striking the extent to which the arguments now being made
> > about Afghanistan were previously made -- and discredited -- in the case of
> > Iraq. The only thing we haven't heard yet is a proposal to dismember
> > Afghanistan into mini-states. But with Joe Biden in the White House, we can
> > expect that brainstorm to pop up soon.
>
> > > > [snip]
>
> > > > >>> Keep in mind that until fairly recently, the conventional wisdom
> > was that we had already won in Afghanistan and could never win in Iraq. Now
> > we hear the reverse, but the new zeitgeist is no sounder than the old. We
> > can win in Afghanistan, as we are now winning in Iraq.
>
> > > > The key is for policymakers to ignore the naysayers. They will get
> > > > louder over time, because, just as in Iraq, a surge in the number of
> > > > U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan will inevitably bring about a short-term
> > > > spike in casualties. But if President Obama doesn't lose his nerve,
> > > > the odds are that a classic counterinsurgency strategy, supported by
> > > > adequate troop levels, can turn around another failing war effort.
>
> --
> Mark M. Kahle,  ,www.filacoffee.com
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