Who says I am not rich? First what do YOU define as rich and wealthy? On Feb 22, 7:09 am, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > here's an idea, fool, get an education, work hard, and maybe you too > can become rich. instead of whining about how unfair it is that some > have but you don't, do something about it, and become one of the > haves. get off your fat liberal ass, quit watch the view and oprah, > put the crack pipe down, and become a productive citizen. > > On Feb 22, 5:43 am, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Wealth stealer? Bush took my Social Security Payments > > and decided it was a surplus and gave it to the Rich and now > > when I retire there will be no money for me. Instead Bush left me > > and the US a 10 Trillion dollar Debt that I and my children will > > have to pay, > > > I have every right to demand justice for the theft of MY MONEY > > I PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY! > > > On Feb 21, 11:19 pm, The Supreme Turtle <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > what a friggin whiner you are. You spend most of your life telling > > > people like me that I should have more of my money taken by the > > > government. > > > > tell me wealth stealer-how much extra money did you send the federal > > > government during the Bush years > > > > On Feb 21, 9:43 pm, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > OH by the way the beginning of your post contradicts the end of > > > > your post. This is a classic example of not getting cognitive > > > > dissonance. > > > > > On Feb 21, 6:43 pm, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > we are experiencing this meltdown due to various reason, none of which > > > > > have anything to do with people getting their money back from the > > > > > government. > > > > > let's start with the spike in gas prices that the dems refused to do > > > > > anything about. this started it all off. > > > > > and then there were those rules the dems forced on the lending > > > > > companies making them give loans to people who couldn't afford a 6 > > > > > pack, let alone a house. and the dems did what about all this? they > > > > > ignored it as well. no this whole economic meltdown was caused by, > > > > > ignored by, and exasperated by the dems. > > > > > in ever case of an economic slowdown the only thing that has worked to > > > > > correct it is tax cuts. > > > > > > On Feb 21, 6:29 pm, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Ok first Republicans say $3 a week was a good tax cut > > > > > > to working Americans, but $13 a week isn't enough? > > > > > > > Second the tax cuts to the rich didn't work because > > > > > > if they had we would not be experiencing the economic meltdown > > > > > > we are now in! > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 6:09 pm, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > so let's see. if you make more money, you pay more in taxes. so > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > you pay more in taxes then it would only make sense you get more > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > in a tax cut. or is this simple concept lost on the libs? oh > > > > > > > wait, > > > > > > > that's right, libs are the ones who want to give tax cuts to > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > who don't pay taxes. can you say welfare? > > > > > > > > On Feb 21, 5:45 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Maybe the Bush Republicans should think before they > > > > > > > > complain! This is about Cognitive Dissonance AGAIN! > > > > > > > > > If you made under $100,000 a year your tax cut from > > > > > > > > Bush equaled $3.0425 a week. > > > > > > > > > So which is a better tax cut for working class Americans? > > > > > > > > > $13 a week or $3,0425 a week? > > > > > > > > > If you earned less than $100,000 your tax cut was $158.61. > > > > > > > > by VirtualTruth Thu Nov 02, 2006 at 10:52:22 AM EDT > > > > > > > > > If you earned less than $100,000 your share of the tax cut was > > > > > > > > $158.61 > > > > > > > > on Average. > > > > > > > > > If you earned more than $100,000, your share of the tax cut was > > > > > > > > $4,754.57 on Average. > > > > > > > > > So if you earn over $100,000 a year, you should vote republican. > > > > > > > > > If you are earning less than $100,000 a year and vote > > > > > > > > Republican, you > > > > > > > > should ask yourself WHY? > > > > > > > > > For $158.61? The increase in gas wiped that out in a week. > > > > > > > > > If you do not believe me, do the math yourself. Here are my > > > > > > > > calculations... > > > > > > > > > I am going to break this down for everyone based on the > > > > > > > > ADMINISTRATIONS numbers.... > > > > > > > > > In 2003 the Administration said there were 92 million tax > > > > > > > > payers who > > > > > > > > on 'average' would receive $1083 each. This does not mean each > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > 92 million GOT $1083, it just meant that if you took the entire > > > > > > > > tax > > > > > > > > cut and divided it by the number of tax payers it comes to > > > > > > > > $1083. > > > > > > > > > The reality is this. > > > > > > > > > The total tax cut in 2003 was $99,636,000,000. > > > > > > > > > $87,978,588,000 goes to people making over $100,000 a year. > > > > > > > > > If you make over $100,000 a year, the 'average' tax cut you > > > > > > > > received > > > > > > > > was $4,754.57 > > > > > > > > > 18,504,000 received this on average. > > > > > > > > > The rest of America, the lower middle class and the working poor > > > > > > > > received what was left. That is $11,657,412,000 to be divided > > > > > > > > between > > > > > > > > the remaining 73,496,000 Tax payers. > > > > > > > > > So if you made less than $100,000 you received on Average a tax > > > > > > > > cut of > > > > > > > > $158.61. > > > > > > > > > So you tell me, who HONESTLY benefited from the Bush Tax cuts? > > > > > > > > >http://www.whitehouse.gov/... > > > > > > > > > According to theTax Policy Institute: > > > > > > > > 45.8% of the benefits from a reduction in capital gains and > > > > > > > > dividends > > > > > > > > went to people with incomes over $1 million. There were 284,000 > > > > > > > > taxpayers in this income group. This is .19% of all taxpayers. > > > > > > > > > An additional 10.8% of the benefits went to people with incomes > > > > > > > > between $500,000 and $1 million. There were 593,000 taxpayers > > > > > > > > in this > > > > > > > > income group. This is .40% of all taxpayers. > > > > > > > > > 17.4% of the benefits went to people with incomes between > > > > > > > > $200,000 and > > > > > > > > $500,000. There were 3,588,000 taxpayers in this income group. > > > > > > > > This is > > > > > > > > 2.46% of all taxpayers. > > > > > > > > > 14.3% of the benefits went to people with incomes of $100,000 to > > > > > > > > $200,000. There were 14,039,000 taxpayers in this income group. > > > > > > > > This is 9.66% of all taxpayers. > > > > > > > > In other words -- > > > > > > > > 88.3% of the total benefits from Bush tax cuts went to people > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > incomes over $100,000. In addition, the total number of > > > > > > > > taxpayers who > > > > > > > > got a vast majority of the benefits represent only 12.71% of all > > > > > > > > taxpayers.http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/... > > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/OpenDebateForum/web/if-you-earned-less... > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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