I can't take much more of this craziness: CNS: "On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush's executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicitly bans federal funding of any ''research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death.'' The provision was buried in the 465-page omnibus appropriations bill that Obama signed Wednesday"
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=44943 Posted by: clarice | March 13, 2009 at 09:03 PM <http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/03/bigger-subsidies-paid-by-someone-else.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e2011168f322d2970c#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e2011168f322d2970c> So, Clarice, does the "law" he "signed" supercede his "lifting" of the ban? I am so confused! But, then again so is Zero and his minions. Posted by: centralcal | March 13, 2009 at 09:29 PM <http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/03/bigger-subsidies-paid-by-someone-else.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e2011168f331f6970c#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e2011168f331f6970c> If you click on the CNS article it gives you the precise language covering the ban:"The text of Section 509 of the Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009, reads as follows: SEC. 509. (a) None of the funds made available in this Act may be used for---(1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research purposes; or (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death greater than that allowed for research on fetuses in utero under 45 CFR 46.204(b) and section 498(b) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 289g(b)). (b) For purposes of this section, the term ''human embryo or embryos'' includes any organism, not protected as a human subject under 45 CFR 46 as of the date of the enactment of this Act, that is derived by fertilization, parthenogenesis, cloning, or any other means from one or more human gametes or human diploid cells." The CNS article suggests the President and the NYT were aware of the prohibitions in the Bill when Obama signed it and when just before signing it he acted out the charade of undoing Bush' restrictions(which appeared in line with the law). Posted by: clarice | March 13, 2009 at 10:21 PM <http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/03/bigger-subsidies-paid-by-someone-else.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e2011279678aec28a4#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e2011279678aec28a4> Jim- Great link to that post earlier, at The Atlantic. clarice and bad- the statutory language is in place for 2010 and 2012, so he can say "I did this!". and bad, the LUN is my link for Jim's b-day. The guy on the immediate right of Gerry, the guy with the baritone sax, is Zoot Sims. He is probably one of the most talented tenor players you will hear. Note the trombone player on the left of Gerry Mulligan, it's a VALVE trombone, you play it like a trumpet. Posted by: mel <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8r41lGHlY> | March 13, 2009 at 10:23 PM <http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/03/bigger-subsidies-paid-by-someone-else.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e2011279678baf28a4#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e2011279678baf28a4> I'm certain that is a continuation of a ban that has been in place- and reauthorized by Congress annually- for 15 years. Posted by: MayBee | March 13, 2009 at 10:31 PM <http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/03/bigger-subsidies-paid-by-someone-else.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e2011168f35383970c#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e2011168f35383970c> It is very simple Clarice, Obama and Clinton haven't figured out what a human embryo is: CNN's Sanjay Gupta Fails to Correct Bill Clinton's Multiple 'Embryos Aren't Fertilized' Gaffe <http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/12/cnns-gupta-fails-correct-bill-clinton-s-multiple-fertilized-gaffe> Posted by: Ann <http://justoneminute.typepad.com/> | March 13, 2009 at 10:41 PM <http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/03/bigger-subsidies-paid-by-someone-else.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e20112796795a028a4#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e20112796795a028a4> And the press is in the same boat? My point is, was the press really hoodwinked by this dog and pony show or were they covering for The Won yet again? It appears the NYT knew and kept still. Posted by: clarice | March 13, 2009 at 10:45 PM <http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/03/bigger-subsidies-paid-by-someone-else.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e201127967986a28a4#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e201127967986a28a4> Not done yet! clarice- You know better than this! It's so he can resurrect the appropriate quote in 2010 AND 2012, which ever way the wind is blowing at that time. No time like the present to set up a defensive pre-emption. There's politics and there's principle, and with my junior Senator, ne'er the twain shall meet. Night all. Posted by: mel | March 13, 2009 at 10:55 PM <http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/03/bigger-subsidies-paid-by-someone-else.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e2011279679faf28a4#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e2011279679faf28a4> It is weird. Here is how USNews reports it: President Clinton said no to the use of federal funds for embryo creation. During his administration, the National Institutes of Health developed guidelines to stringently oversee the use of frozen IVF embryos that were created for the purposes of fertility treatment, specifically because of ethical and legal issues that go beyond scientific peer review. At the same time, the Clinton guidelines laid out areas of research that are ineligible for NIH funding. Embryo creation, using stem cells taken from created research embryos, and making chimeras (that is, animal-human embryos) were all banned. Now that the Bush restrictions have been lifted, the Clinton guidelines are a good starting place. And embryo creation is still the thorniest issue. Odd tangle of regulations, I'd say. 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