Martyrdom was not esposed by Judaism but by Romans and Early Christians. Massada (sp?) was an exception.
On Mar 29, 1:11 pm, Ohio mark <[email protected]> wrote: > so the solution is to just keep your head stuffed up your ass, eh? > and you have no problem with these small hung muslim animals killing > their women and daughters? with that attitude, the half the world > would be speaking german, and the other half japanese. > > On Mar 29, 1:49 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ok, how's this.... > > > What happens in Turkey is happening in Turkey. US groups have NO right > > to make comment. It is absolutely none of your business on ANY level. > > > If this practice is exported to the US then do something. Your rights > > (on ANY level) end at your borders. The US and its people have > > forgotten this. > > > These are Sovereign nations and their culture and traditions. > > > When there are no more drug gangs, no more starving people on your > > streets, when all your people have access to medical and general > > health care, when equality reigns in your courts and education is once > > again at least decent and universal THEN and only then can you have an > > opinion. > > > But you won't need to have one then as the US will be the example that > > it purports to be; but is failing miserably at. Your system would be > > copied and desire to accomplish the same would be rampant in the > > world.... and you won't have to say a word. > > > The best form of leadership is by example...... no other method has > > ever worked.(for long) > > > On Mar 29, 8:44 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hey Mark!!! (And CW!!) > > > > I find the silence from the so-called women'ts groups not only deafening, > > > but just out right hypocritical. It is just another demonstration of how > > > their agenda is not what it appears to be, *e,g*,; "women's rights & > > > equality"; which I believe is secondary to these groups' partisan, and > > > apparently secularist, far left socialist-elitist agenda. > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Ohio mark > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > I find the silence from the so called women's groups deafening. > > > > > On Mar 29, 7:53 am, Cold Water <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > "In her hometown of Batman – nicknamed "Suicide City" – 75 percent of > > > > > all suicides are committed now by women." > > > > > > Now mark, we both know the hometown of Batman is Gotham City. ;-) > > > > > > The bottom line is "the religion of peace" doesn't value life and > > > > > that is > > > > > the slippery slope we go down regarding the unborn. > > > > > > CW > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Ohio mark" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 07:16 > > > > > Subject: Muslim women told: For family's sake, commit suicide > > > > > > Turkey's crackdown on the practice of honor killing has resulted in > > > > > unintended consequences – instead of being murdered by a close male > > > > > relative for bringing dishonor to their families, Muslim women are > > > > > being pressured to commit suicide. > > > > > > And the numbers of "honor suicides" are soaring, reported the UK's > > > > > Independent. > > > > > > Despite a 2005 change in the nation's penal code requiring a mandatory > > > > > life sentence for honor killers, the number of women killed by male > > > > > relatives is at a record level – more than 200 a year, half of all > > > > > murders committed in Turkey. But it is that change in the law that has > > > > > given rise to the growing phenomenon of women taking their own lives. > > > > > Prior to 2005, killers were able to receive reduced sentences by > > > > > claiming provocation. > > > > > > Elif, 18, from Batman in southeast Turkey, was told by her father she > > > > > must kill herself so he would not be sent to prison for murdering her > > > > > after she refused an offer of an arranged marriage with an older man. > > > > > > "I loved my father so much, I was ready to commit suicide for him even > > > > > though I hadn't done anything wrong," she said. "But I just couldn't > > > > > go through with it. I love life too much." > > > > > > The young woman was forced to flee and go into hiding. Her uncles and > > > > > other relatives have been hunting her for the past eight months, even > > > > > conducting an armed raid of a women's shelter where she had been. > > > > > > "I managed to escape," said Elif. "When I was at school, a few girls I > > > > > knew were killed by their families in the name of honor – one of them > > > > > for simply receiving a text message from a boy." > > > > > > In her hometown of Batman – nicknamed "Suicide City" – 75 percent of > > > > > all suicides are committed now by women. > > > > > >http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93252-Hidequoted > > > > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
