Holly, There are many Americans who served in Vietnam, who believe Senator Kerry's actions in Winter Soldier, were no less than traiterous. There are many accounts from members who served with Senator Kerry in Viet Nam, while Senator Kerry was "in country" in Viet Nam for only a short few months an not a regular tour of duty, to be less than honorable, and that Senator Kerry's actions in Viet Nam were not at all in accord to his allegations that he made after returning (once again:) after the short few months that he was stationed in Viet Nam.....*See* "The Men of Swiftboat" accounts.
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote: > PlainOl', > > Okay, my apologies, I misunderstood your message. > > I do take issue with the term, "torture". There was no torture, period. > There was enhanced interrogation techniques that were successfully utilized > to obtain information, from homicidal murderers like Sheikh Kahlid Mohammad, > who, prior to being subjected to the enhanced interrogation techniques, > would only respond, when asked about future plans to attack our Nation, > with, "Soon You Will Know". > > After Khalid got a little water splashed up his nose, Khalid revealed a > plan to set off a dirty bomb in Washington D.C., as well as a fundamentalist > Islamic jihad cell here in the United States and Indonesia that intended on > flying another plane into a skyscraper in Los Angeles. > > Holly, > > With all due respect, it will require you to click on the link that I > provided above, wherein the information that I took hours to research and > prepare several weeks ago, will not only enlighten you, it will answer your > questions. > > Keith > > > > > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, plainolamerican < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> PlainOl' >> You totally lost me here. I don't know who it is that you are >> quoting, "The >> torturers are the bad guys"; >> --- >> Web Veteran, in the initial post >> >> but in the case of recent enhanced >> interrogation techniques, there was no torture. You are falling for >> far >> left Anti-American rhetoric, which surprises me. >> --- >> not I'm not >> and I will always maintain that torture is a viable and effective way >> to get information out of the enemy >> terrorists do no deserve legal protection >> >> On May 31, 11:41 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> > PlainOl' >> > >> > You totally lost me here. I don't know who it is that you are quoting, >> "The >> > torturers are the bad guys"; but in the case of recent enhanced >> > interrogation techniques, there was no torture. You are falling for far >> > left Anti-American rhetoric, which surprises me. >> > >> > Holly may very well have served in Vietnam. Folks like Paul Begalia, >> who >> > have chosen to lie, and attempt to mislead the American public in a >> > partisan, Anti-American attempt to portray our national defense as >> somehow >> > being wrong, never served in Vietnam. Folks like Paul Begalia have >> never >> > served their Nation EVER, but would now support a socialist ploy by a >> > socialist president that community service by all Americans should be >> > mandatory! >> > >> > I also note that Senator Kerry purportedly served his Nation in Vietnam. >> Of >> > course, those that he served with challenge this notion..... >> > >> > Wake up and smell the coffee man!! >> > >> > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:49 AM, plainolamerican < >> [email protected] >> > >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > The torturers are the bad guys, my friends >> > > --- >> > > no, the terrorists are the bad guys >> > >> > > and should tortured for information and then killed >> > > the severity of their crime prevents them from enjoying legal >> > > protection >> > >> > > On May 30, 8:07 pm, Web Veteran <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Congressman Ron Paul points out that the US government hung Japanese >> > > > who tortured American prisoners with waterboarding following World >> War >> > > > 2. The torturers are the bad guys, my friends. >> > >> > > > A video is popular lately showing two Oklahoma policemen stopping an >> > > > ambulence and grabbing an EMT worker by the throat. These guys are >> > > > getting "anger management counselling" not being prosecuted for >> > > > assault. >> > >> > > > What's happening to our country? And the majority of "Christians" >> > > > today are supporting the practice of torture while the majority of >> > > > those not calling themselves Christians are not. Of course the Roman >> > > > Catholic Church tortured and killed countless Protestants and others >> > > > they called, and still call, "heretics" for hundreds of years during >> > > > the Spanish Inquisition and they now have a lot of power and >> influence >> > > > in the US government. We know Israel has legalized torture and there >> > > > is a lot of Zionist influence in the US today, too. >> > >> > > > But we need to go back to following our own Constitution again and >> > > > following international law. The Antichrist system is described as >> > > > "lawless" in the Bible, and it seems the US is getting into that >> > > > position lately, and it's wrong and will only lead to disaster. >> > >> > > > Just a note about the latest North Korea incident. What North Korea >> > > > did didn't violate any laws. Under the UN Charter all nations have >> > > > equal rights. If the US has the right to conduct nuclear tests then >> so >> > > > does North Korea. If Israel can possess nuclear weapons then so can >> > > > Iran, Pakistan and North Korea. The United States not only developed >> > > > those kind of weapons but has already dropped them on cities killing >> > > > tens of thousands of people. How hypocritical and arrogant can you >> > > > get? >> > >> > > > What this country needs is revival. Watch the revival services from >> > > > World Revival Church, Kansas City on Daystar Network friday >> evenings. >> > > > Here's the link to Ron Paul's article: >> > >http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul530.html >> >> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
