KIT, Yeah, your were all girly hysterical. You were practically foaming at the mouth screaming "Teason" and "socialist!" If it will make you feel better about yourself we can say it was quite "manly" hysterics. I'll address your points as follows, one paragraph at a time.
1. Bullshit. You just said you didn't like his speech. Nothing treasonous or socialist about displeasing you. Move to France or England if you like their leaders better. 2. You offer no comment. Am I supposed to read your mind? WTF man, all you did was print the speech. I already read the speech! So list the lies you speak of and your proof that they are lies. On Jun 6, 10:02 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Holly, > > Nothing traumatic or "girly hysterical" about anything that I > post......Ever. > > I take issue with President Obama's telling a "half truth", followed by an > out right lie, and I have taken it upon myself, (as you suggested) to list a > bunch of them. > > I just watched the speeches at Normandy, which were moving.....With the > exception of our own President. He is an embarassment to our Nation. Who is > his speech writer?? Whoever it is, hasn't a clue. Sarkozy, I give an > "A+". Prime Minister Brown, an "A"; Prime Minister Harper, a "B+" and to > our socialistic leader who cannot get away from a teleprompter, (and note, > none of the other leaders utilized a teleprompter!!) I give his speech this > morning a "C-". > > We meet at a time of tension between the United States and Muslims around > the world – tension rooted in historical forces that go beyond any current > policy debate. The relationship between Islam and the West includes > centuries of coexistence and co-operation, but also conflict and religious > wars. More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights > and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority > countries were too often treated as proxies without regard to their own > aspirations. Moreover, the sweeping change brought by modernity and > globalization led many Muslims to view the West as hostile to the traditions > of Islam. > > Violent extremists have exploited these tensions in a small but potent > minority of Muslims. The attacks of September 11th, 2001 and the continued > efforts of these extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led > some in my country to view Islam as inevitably hostile not only to America > and Western countries, but also to human rights. This has bred more fear and > mistrust. > > So long as our relationship is defined by our differences, we will empower > those who sow hatred rather than peace, and who promote conflict rather than > the co-operation that can help all of our people achieve justice and > prosperity. This cycle of suspicion and discord must end. > > I have come here to seek a new beginning between the United States and > Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; > and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive, and > need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common > principles – principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity > of all human beings. > > I do so recognising that change cannot happen overnight. No single speech > can eradicate years of mistrust, nor can I answer in the time that I have > all the complex questions that brought us to this point. But I am convinced > that in order to move forward, we must say openly the things we hold in our > hearts, and that too often are said only behind closed doors. There must be > a sustained effort to listen to each other; to learn from each other; to > respect one another; and to seek common ground. As the Holy Koran tells us, > "Be conscious of God and speak always the truth." That is what I will try to > do – to speak the truth as best I can, humbled by the task before us, and > firm in my belief that the interests we share as human beings are far more > powerful than the forces that drive us apart. > ============ > > I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America's story. The first > nation to recognise my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli > in 1796, our second President John Adams wrote, "The United States has in > itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquillity of > Muslims." And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United > States. They have fought in our wars, served in government, stood for civil > rights, started businesses, taught at our Universities, excelled in our > sports arenas, won Nobel Prizes, built our tallest building, and lit the > Olympic Torch. And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to > Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy > Koran that one of our Founding Fathers  Thomas Jefferson  kept in his > personal library. > ============= > > Much has been made of the fact that an African-American with the name Barack > Hussein Obama could be elected President. But my personal story is not so > unique. The dream of opportunity for all people has not come true for > everyone in America, but its promise exists for all who come to our shores  > that includes nearly seven million American Muslims in our country today who > enjoy incomes and education that are higher than average. > > Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice > one's religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, > and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government > has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, > and to punish those who would deny it. > ================ > > So let there be no doubt: Islam is a part of America. And I 'believe that > America holds within her the truth that regardless of race, religion, or > station in life, all of us share common aspirations – to live in peace and > security; to get an education and to work with dignity; to love our > families, our communities, and our God. These things we share. This is the > hope of all humanity. > =============== > > Let me also address the issue of Iraq. Unlike Afghanistan, Iraq was a war of > choice that provoked strong differences in my country and around the world. > Although I believe that the Iraqi people are ultimately better off without > the tyranny of Saddam Hussein, I also believe that events in Iraq have > reminded America of the need to use diplomacy and build international > consensus to resolve our problems whenever possible. Indeed, we can recall > the words of Thomas Jefferson, who said: "I hope that our wisdom will grow > with our power, and teach us that the less we use our power the greater it > will be." > =============== > > And finally, just as America can never tolerate violence by extremists, we > must never alter our principles. 9/11 was an enormous trauma to our country. > The fear and anger that it provoked was understandable, but in some cases, > it led us to act contrary to our ideals. We are taking concrete actions to > change course. I have unequivocally prohibited the use of torture by the > United States, and I have ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed by > early next year. > ================= > > On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people – > Muslims and Christians – have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more > than sixty years they have endured the pain of dislocation. Many wait in > refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of > peace and security that they have never been able to lead. They endure the > daily humiliations – large and small – that come with occupation. So let > there be no doubt: the situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable. > America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for > dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own. > > For decades, there has been a stalemate: two peoples with legitimate > aspirations, each with a painful history that makes compromise elusive. It > is easy to point fingers – for Palestinians to point to the displacement > brought by Israel's founding, and for Israelis to point to the constant > hostility and attacks throughout its history from within its borders as well > as beyond. But if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then > we will be blind to the truth: the only resolution is for the aspirations of > both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians > each live in peace and security. > > That is in Israel's interest, Palestine's interest, America's interest, and > the world's interest. That is why I intend to personally pursue this outcome > with all the patience that the task requires. The obligations that the > parties have agreed to under the Road Map are clear. For peace to come, it > is time for them – and all of us – to live up to our responsibilities > > ====================== > > This issue has been a source of tension between the United States and the > Islamic Republic of Iran. For many years, Iran has defined itself in part by > its opposition to my country, and there is indeed a tumultuous history > between us. In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role > in the overthrow of a democratically-elected Iranian government. Since the > Islamic Revolution, Iran has played a role in acts of hostage-taking and > violence against U.S. troops and civilians. This history is well known. > Rather than remain trapped in the past, I have made it clear to Iran's > leaders and people that my country is prepared to move forward. The > question, now, is not what Iran is against, but rather what future it wants > to build. > > It will be hard to overcome decades of mistrust, but we will proceed with > courage, rectitude and resolve. There will be many issues to discuss between > our two countries, and we are willing to move forward without preconditions > on the basis of mutual respect. But it is clear to all concerned that when > it comes to nuclear weapons, we have reached a decisive point. This is not > simply about America's interests. It is about preventing a nuclear arms race > in the Middle East that could lead this region and the world down a hugely > dangerous path. > > I understand those who protest that some countries have weapons that others > do not. No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear > weapons. That is why I strongly reaffirmed America's commitment to seek a > world in which no nations hold nuclear weapons. 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