Zeb, Dude, please take note of my useage of the word "IF". Do I need to explain the meaning to you? That sounds reasonable, IF the original deal was NOT that the VFW's get the use of such weapons in exchange for storing and caring for them.
On Jun 12, 4:16 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > Their property? It isn't "their property." Some asshole staff sergeant > asserting ownership of decommissioned weapons that were clearly GIVEN > to these VFW posts doesn't mean anything. And if Obama continues this > transparent inventorying of weapons in the hands of private citizens > with this ploy, I'd send his administration bills for hundreds of > thousands of dollars from each VFW post for the storage and security > of "government property." Plus interest. > > On Jun 12, 5:00 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Travis, > > > If it is still government property why shouldn't they know where their > > property is? > > > On Jun 12, 1:06 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > From: *Travis* > > > Date: Thu, Jun 11, 2009 > > > Subject: Government Demands Inventory of ALL Weapons at Veterans of > > > Foreign > > > Wars Posts > > > > Does no one else find this peculiar? > > > > B > > > >http://www.prisonplanet.com/government-demands-inventory-of-all-vfw-we<http://www.prisonplanet.com/government-demands-inventory-of-all-vfw-w...> > > > aponshtml > > > > Government Demands Inventory of All VFW Weapons Kurt Nimmo > > > > Prisonplanet.com June 9, 2009 > > > > An Infowars reader has passed along an email sent to VFW commanders by > > > > the Assistant Adjutant of the Department of Texas Veterans of Foreign > > > > Wars indicating the U.S. Army TACOM (Tactical Army Command) is > > > > demanding an inventory of all weapons held by VFW posts. > > > > Email sent to VFW commanders > > > > Inventory form > > > > “While you may have had possession of this equipment for 20, 40, 60 or > > > > 100 years,” the email states, “it still belongs to the U.S. Military.” > > > > The email arrived with an inventory attachment where all weapons are > > > > to be listed and the document sent to the Department of Texas Veterans > > > > of Foreign Wars. “This form will then be bounced off of the central > > > > database of all Texas VFW Posts at U.S. Army TACOM to verify serial > > > > numbers of each item that has been issued. This is a very extensive > > > > list and goes back to before the VFW was founded. So if you have a > > > > cannon from the Spanish-American War it’s on the list.” > > > > Many VFW halls around the country have decommissioned military weapons > > > > on their properties along with uniforms, statues and flags from every > > > > era. It is a common practice for VFW honor guard units to use M-1 > > > > rifles made into blank firing devices for salutes at parades and > > > > funerals. Weapons held by VFW posts are generally kept under lock and key > > > in storage rooms. > > > > TACOM is not simply interested in blank firing devices and antique > > > > rifles and pistols, however. “Weapons and Equipment consist of but is > > > > not limited to, Rifles, Pistols, Mortars, Artillery, Tanks, Vehicles, > > > > Aircraft, Missiles Aircraft Carriers (sic), etc, from any period.” > > > > According to the email, any attempt “hide” the items will be dealt > > > > with severely. “Please do not try and hide this as all weapons and > > > > equipment not accounted for will be reported to the FBI and BATF as > > > > stolen military equipment,” writes Dan West, retired Sgt. USMC. “I am > > > > hopeful that I need not remind anyone of the severity of punishment > > > > that can be administered or the legal bills resulting from individuals > > > > or elected officers of the Post having possession of stolen military > > > > weapons.” > > > > The inventory of weapons at VFW posts is further evidence the > > > > government does not trust veterans, even with antiquated and > > > > non-functioning military equipment used primarily for display and > > > historical purposes. > > > > Last month the government took the unprecedented step of requiring > > > > soldiers at Fort Campbell in Kentucky to disclose all of their > > > > privately owned weapons and gun licenses. > > > > “Military officials insist the policy is not connected to a recent > > > > controversial Department of Homeland Security report that warned > > > > disgruntled veterans could pose a national security threat. Rather, > > > > the inventory of private guns is aimed at stemming what the Army > > > > claims is an increasing number of accidental discharges by gun-toting > > > > soldiers,” NewsMax reported on May 5. WorldNetDaily reported that Fort > > > > Bliss in Texas had informed soldiers who live off the premises to > > > > provide descriptions, serial numbers, calibers, makes and models of > > > > any of the guns they own privately. > > > > *************************************************************************** > > > > (for which the officer who gave said instruction almost got his career > > > kicked in the ass, the order and or letter of instruction was recinded > > > immeidately At Ft. Campbell) the military has no legal authority over > > > private property or the right to seperate a citizen or a solider from > > > their > > > constitutional rights when they are off post which is not under the > > > jurisdiction of the military. > > > > in addition if such instruction was given at Ft. Bliss it was illegal. It > > > does not conform to the standards and practices of the UCMJ and deprives > > > individual soldiers of rights without due process....... > > > > If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we > > > are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the > > > intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. > > > … We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to > > > tolerate the intolerant. –Sir Karl Popper > > > > __,_._,___ > > > > -- > > > *~@):~{> > > > > -- > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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